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Bradley Beal - Part III

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Post#1901 » by Frichuela » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:58 pm

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closg00 wrote:Beal is a one org lifer player like Dirk, he is going to sign a crazy off-season deal to stay in DC, that is what's going to happen. Beal will also have reason for optimism after Tommy does some kind of trade by the deadline, some player(s) here are going to be traded.

I agree that this is likely. I also think it's bad for the franchise. I really do think the Beal era has run its course.

As I said before, I just don't think a coach has enough power to discipline Beal so long as he is the face of the franchise. And as long as Beal consistently takes plays off on defense while showing terrible body language, it's going to be impossible for the coach to demand excellence out of the rest of the roster.

I bear no ill will toward Beal. He's an excellent player and a good man, but I think it's best for everyone if he moves on. The team needs a new voice and a new direction. Other players need a reason to believe that this can one day be their team, rather than always playing second-fiddle to a guy who was never even a top 15 player in the league.


I think most (if not all of us) agree with your rationale Nate..

The problem here is Terd and his "philosophy" for lack of a better word. He is happy over paying for a 20-30 top player who is likely to decline during the life of the contract. Very frustrating!
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part III 

Post#1902 » by DCZards » Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:25 pm

nate33 wrote:As I said before, I just don't think a coach has enough power to discipline Beal so long as he is the face of the franchise. And as long as Beal consistently takes plays off on defense while showing terrible body language, it's going to be impossible for the coach to demand excellence out of the rest of the roster.

Beal needs to move the ball and stop over dribbling, cutdown on turnovers and improve his focus on defense. But this stuff about his terrible body language is overblown. 90% of the time Beal is smiling, having fun playing the game of bball and encouraging his teammates. The 10% of the time that he has terrible body language is what too often gets focused on, however. It's blown out of proportion.
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Post#1903 » by closg00 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:35 pm

Beal did buy that LA mansion though....
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Post#1905 » by closg00 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:14 pm

Two sources told Action Network that Bradley Beal’s interest in being relocated has cooled even further. There was some thought that if the Wizards’ season went sideways he might ask out, but the Wizards have stabilized after a hot start and big downturn. There’s a belief that Beal is focused on maximizing his next contract which is easiest in Washington.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/nba-trade-rumors-league-intel-caris-levert-myles-turner-john-collins-2022?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mattmoore

In-line with what we have been saying, prep for a Super Max Beal.
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Post#1906 » by Kanyewest » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:15 pm

Beal may need a new trainer to fix his shot. Drew Hanlen clients not doing so hot from distance

Bradley Beal 30.3% from 3
Jason Tatum 31.7% from 3
Jordan Clarkson- 31.7% from 3
RJ Barret 35.4% from 3


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Kelly Oubre 37.4% from 3
Joel Embiid -37.5 % from 3
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Post#1908 » by DCZards » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:11 pm

PaulinVA wrote:Report: Bradley Beal won’t sign contract extension with Wizards

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2022/01/20/report-bradley-beal-wont-sign-contract-extension-with-wizards/

No news here. This is what has been said and written since Beal was offered the extension in October.
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Post#1909 » by FAH1223 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:20 pm

PaulinVA wrote:Report: Bradley Beal won’t sign contract extension with Wizards

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2022/01/20/report-bradley-beal-wont-sign-contract-extension-with-wizards/

Brad wants that 5th year. It’s a no brainer.

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Post#1910 » by 9 and 20 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:54 am

I get that Brad needs to do what's best for Brad.

Tommy and the Turd need to do the same for the Wiz though. And that's trading this guy before he has the chance to sign somewhere else or force a sign and trade to Boston for some bull crap 2028 draft pick.

Just like they handed the keys to Gilbert and John before, they're doing the same for Brad now. When you do the same thing over and over again and each time get a negative result, what's that called again? Oh ya - it's called DC basketball! Get pumped for 43-39 for a couple of years before another implosion.
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Post#1911 » by gambitx777 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:17 am

Honestly we should trade him cuz once he's on a super max he may not be movable. But that being said not shocked he's not gonna sign that extension .

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Post#1912 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:07 am

closg00 wrote:
Two sources told Action Network that Bradley Beal’s interest in being relocated has cooled even further. There was some thought that if the Wizards’ season went sideways he might ask out, but the Wizards have stabilized after a hot start and big downturn. There’s a belief that Beal is focused on maximizing his next contract which is easiest in Washington.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/nba-trade-rumors-league-intel-caris-levert-myles-turner-john-collins-2022?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mattmoore

In-line with what we have been saying, prep for a Super Max Beal.


I.e., he’s stunk it up enough this season that it’s possible no one else really wants to give him that money so why not just stick with the dudes that are going to gift it to you.
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Post#1913 » by FAH1223 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:52 am

gambitx777 wrote:Honestly we should trade him cuz once he's on a super max he may not be movable. But that being said not shocked he's not gonna sign that extension .

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9 and 20 wrote:I get that Brad needs to do what's best for Brad.

Tommy and the Turd need to do the same for the Wiz though. And that's trading this guy before he has the chance to sign somewhere else or force a sign and trade to Boston for some bull crap 2028 draft pick.

Just like they handed the keys to Gilbert and John before, they're doing the same for Brad now. When you do the same thing over and over again and each time get a negative result, what's that called again? Oh ya - it's called DC basketball! Get pumped for 43-39 for a couple of years before another implosion.


As long as Brad stays healthy and effective, he will have value even at the $48M per year figure he will have.

The issue and challenge is building the roster. Our own draft picks need to pan out. You need to constantly get quality guys on the cheap. Look at Miami for example. How in the hell are they always able to find role players who can hit 3s and defend like dogs? Jimmy Butler is going to be making $55M at age 36!!

Team building can happen in lots of different ways. On one hand, we should be happy our own #3 pick in the 2012 draft wants to finish his career as a Bullet and he's developed into a player we did not think he could be even 5 years ago.

He's not a #1 on a title team. But how many #1 options in the NBA are there? Giannis, LeBron, KD, Kawhi, Steph, Joker, Embiid, and that's it!!
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Post#1916 » by DCZards » Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:32 pm

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As long as Brad stays healthy and effective, he will have value even at the $48M per year figure he will have.

The issue and challenge is building the roster. Our own draft picks need to pan out. You need to constantly get quality guys on the cheap. Look at Miami for example. How in the hell are they always able to find role players who can hit 3s and defend like dogs? Jimmy Butler is going to be making $55M at age 36!!

Team building can happen in lots of different ways. On one hand, we should be happy our own #3 pick in the 2012 draft wants to finish his career as a Bullet and he's developed into a player we did not think he could be even 5 years ago.

He's not a #1 on a title team. But how many #1 options in the NBA are there? Giannis, LeBron, KD, Kawhi, Steph, Joker, Embiid, and that's it!!

Thank you!

Most of us agree that Beal is not a #1 option on a title contender. And at 40+ million he will definitely be overpaid. But, realistically, how many true #1 options are there? You named 7 of them. There may be two or three more.

BB is a top 20-30 player and still relatively young. He also appears to be committed to trying to win here in DC. The Zards should think long and hard about moving Beal (instead of building around him) with the hope that a true #1 option (or better player than Beal) is about to walk through the door to replace him.
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Post#1917 » by dlts20 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:10 pm

I said this in the last game thread but wassup with the DC media. This is the nation's capital. They challenge the president and congress here but Beal can play like crap while wanting a super max yet he never ever gets asked in person about his terrible play? It's so bad that Brad had to call himself out last month because our media is scared to do it... Smh

If he got traded to the Knicks right now with a max and stunk it up, they would be calling him overrated and boo him out the Garden.

Im serious though. At least the fans could hear some kinda explanation from him. We are just finally getting some of the media to do some negative tweets but they still don't say anything to him in person. It's ridiculous.

Idk what's going on with dude. Is he tanking to be traded, is he the opposite of most and actually stinks it up in the contract year, can he not handle the pressure of all the different things that's going on (which is a bad trait in itself if that's the case), or what.

Even in a slump, you expect dude to breakout soon. It's damn near the trade deadline and all star game. Where is the explosive hibachi taking over games. Where is the John Wall passion. Where is the leadership. Dude is out here playing pickup basketball with no urgency and his J is straight trash now. Again, I always say that it's hard to judge the team, front office, coaching, or whatever when your franchise player is trash. That holds everything else back
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Post#1918 » by nate33 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:36 pm

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As long as Brad stays healthy and effective, he will have value even at the $48M per year figure he will have.

The issue and challenge is building the roster. Our own draft picks need to pan out. You need to constantly get quality guys on the cheap. Look at Miami for example. How in the hell are they always able to find role players who can hit 3s and defend like dogs? Jimmy Butler is going to be making $55M at age 36!!

Team building can happen in lots of different ways. On one hand, we should be happy our own #3 pick in the 2012 draft wants to finish his career as a Bullet and he's developed into a player we did not think he could be even 5 years ago.

He's not a #1 on a title team. But how many #1 options in the NBA are there? Giannis, LeBron, KD, Kawhi, Steph, Joker, Embiid, and that's it!!

Thank you!

Most of us agree that Beal is not a #1 option on a title contender. And at 40+ million he will definitely be overpaid. But, realistically, how many true #1 options are there? You named 7 of them. There may be two or three more.

BB is a top 20-30 player and still relatively young. He also appears to be committed to trying to win here in DC. The Zards should think long and hard about moving Beal (instead of building around him) with the hope that a true #1 option (or better player than Beal) is about to walk through the door to replace him.

There aren't many true #1 options, Beal is not one of the 7. Nor is he one of the several who might become that guy in the future (Morant, Zion, Luka, Mitchell, Cunningham, Tatum). So if he is not in either category, then we shouldn't pay him the max. If he won't agree to stay for, say, $30M, then we should trade him.

We absolutely should not just throw our hands up and say: "This the best we're gonna do. Let's just pay him more than he is worth and accept that we will never win 50 games."
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Post#1919 » by FAH1223 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:47 pm

dlts20 wrote:I said this in the last game thread but wassup with the DC media. This is the nation's capital. They challenge the president and congress here but Beal can play like crap while wanting a super max yet he never ever gets asked in person about his terrible play? It's so bad that Brad had to call himself out last month because our media is scared to do it... Smh

If he got traded to the Knicks right now with a max and stunk it up, they would be calling him overrated and boo him out the Garden.

Im serious though. At least the fans could hear some kinda explanation from him. We are just finally getting some of the media to do some negative tweets but they still don't say anything to him in person. It's ridiculous.

Idk what's going on with dude. Is he tanking to be traded, is he the opposite of most and actually stinks it up in the contract year, can he not handle the pressure of all the different things that's going on (which is a bad trait in itself if that's the case), or what.

Even in a slump, you expect dude to breakout soon. It's damn near the trade deadline and all star game. Where is the explosive hibachi taking over games. Where is the John Wall passion. Where is the leadership. Dude is out here playing pickup basketball with no urgency and his J is straight trash now. Again, I always say that it's hard to judge the team, front office, coaching, or whatever when your franchise player is trash. That holds everything else back


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Post#1920 » by FAH1223 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:25 pm

nate33 wrote:There aren't many true #1 options, Beal is not one of the 7. Nor is he one of the several who might become that guy in the future (Morant, Zion, Luka, Mitchell, Cunningham, Tatum). So if he is not in either category, then we shouldn't pay him the max. If he won't agree to stay for, say, $30M, then we should trade him.

We absolutely should not just throw our hands up and say: "This the best we're gonna do. Let's just pay him more than he is worth and accept that we will never win 50 games."


He's making like $34M this season already via the max extension he signed in 2019. :lol:

The new TV deal with TNT, Disney, and whoever else the NBA brings on will balloon the salary cap again. Beal's deal in 3 years won't look that crazy, I guess?
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