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gambitx777 wrote:I am not a Vukcevic believer. I don't see it. Like the eye test is fine the advanced stats love him but **** I don't see it.
Bilal reminds me of a mix of O.G. and Mikal.
His ceiling is jimmy Butler. His floor is an older Trevor ariza.
payitforward wrote:Other than that I wish TJ-D were coming to us not going to GS, I pronounce myself satisfied, only... wait...
I thought we had the #35 from Boston? Is Julian Phillips coming to us?
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Doug_Blew wrote:I'm impressed with Will Dawkins.
We’ll see.
In the words of the immortal John Wooden.
“Don’t confuse activity with achievement.”
closg00 wrote:Our cup is full, no room for undrafted players to kick the tires on probably
smoothSeph wrote:closg00 wrote:Our cup is full, no room for undrafted players to kick the tires on probably
Should be able to sign guys to summer league deals while we figure out the roster, no?
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:payitforward wrote:Other than that I wish TJ-D were coming to us not going to GS, I pronounce myself satisfied, only... wait...
I thought we had the #35 from Boston? Is Julian Phillips coming to us?
Nope, I believe we traded him to Chicago for two future seconds.
Doug_Blew wrote:long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Doug_Blew wrote:I'm impressed with Will Dawkins.
We’ll see.
In the words of the immortal John Wooden.
“Don’t confuse activity with achievement.”
I like what he's done so far. But I was referring to his post draft press conference. He seems like a great guy and a great communicator.
Are we entirely sure we didn't? Like loosing KP hurt but Kuz was a stat filler and not much else. Beal for as much as we all loved him I mean he didn't ever move the needle on his own.Gig18 wrote:Doug_Blew wrote:long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:
We’ll see.
In the words of the immortal John Wooden.
“Don’t confuse activity with achievement.”
I like what he's done so far. But I was referring to his post draft press conference. He seems like a great guy and a great communicator.
I liked hearing him talk about having a plan and about Coulibaly.
BUT, I have to admit I smirked a little when he said something like, "foremost, we got better tonight"
that was a strong statement after a complete dismantling
Say this for Washington's new front office, led by team president Michael Winger: It's not operating with any fear.
After making three big trades in a week, the Wizards took an even bigger gamble by moving up a spot to take the late-rising Coulibaly. By contrast to Washington's relatively safe picks of the recent past, which have yielded solid rotation players but little star potential, drafting Coulibaly -- he turns 19 next month -- offers far greater upside and downside.
The Wizards did well in the second round to nab Vukcevic, who impressed with his shooting at the NBA draft combine.
Winner: The Washington Wizards, Picking a Lane
Danny Chau:
As a matter of principle, my opinions will henceforth only be swayed by those who are free in the universe. I think new Washington Wizards president Michael Winger is on that same wavelength, trusting in the prophet Victor. By our shared logic, their shocking decision to trade up to the no. 7 pick to draft Wemby’s now-former teammate Bilal Coulibaly was still a plus-value decision.
Coulibaly could be anything. At 18 years old, with that baby face, I’m not convinced he isn’t still wet from the womb. He has the absurd length that has allowed OG Anunoby to be an omnipositional defender in the league; he has the blazing end-to-end burst of Dante Exum (I swear, I mean this in a good way); he shined the brightest in pivotal postseason games for Metropolitans 92, showcasing his improving jumper and nascent abilities off the dribble. If it all comes together, and he adds strength to his considerable frame, Coulibaly could be incredible. It’s the Giannis Antetokounmpo play. It’s also the Bruno Caboclo gambit.
There are no guarantees in the future. But after years of purgatory on an organizational level, it’s just nice to see the Wizards finally expand their range of possibilities by razing this roster to the ground, with a surplus of second-rounders and a bunch of pick swaps in tow. Given the acquisition of Jordan Poole and the presence of gemini floor generals in Tyus Jones and Monte Morris, the team seemed destined to swing for the highest upside wing on their board. Could the same have been achieved with Cam Whitmore? Sure, but in a way, the tabula rasa of Coulibaly is the most apt introduction to Winger’s vision for the Wizards’ future. It could be anything.
gambitx777 wrote:Are we entirely sure we didn't? Like loosing KP hurt but Kuz was a stat filler and not much else. Beal for as much as we all loved him I mean he didn't ever move the needle on his own.Gig18 wrote:Doug_Blew wrote:
I like what he's done so far. But I was referring to his post draft press conference. He seems like a great guy and a great communicator.
I liked hearing him talk about having a plan and about Coulibaly.
BUT, I have to admit I smirked a little when he said something like, "foremost, we got better tonight"
that was a strong statement after a complete dismantling
-- better than not having them.payitforward wrote:gambitx777 wrote:Are we entirely sure we didn't? Like loosing KP hurt but Kuz was a stat filler and not much else. Beal for as much as we all loved him I mean he didn't ever move the needle on his own.Gig18 wrote:I liked hearing him talk about having a plan and about Coulibaly.
BUT, I have to admit I smirked a little when he said something like, "foremost, we got better tonight"
that was a strong statement after a complete dismantling
Well, of course "we got better tonight!"
Before the draft started we didn't have Coulabily, & we didn't have Vutkevic, & we didn't have Patrick Baldwin, Jr.
Now we have all 3 of those guys, which is -- obviously, I'd say
As far as "complete dismantling" -- by which I take you to mean a) trading Brad & b) trading KP -- those moves too made us better.
The team we had was capable of winning 35 games (the conclusive evidence for that claim being the fact that we won 35 games).
Does anyone have the idea that Bradley Beal was going to get better as a player over the next year or so (let alone the 4 years of his idiotic, no-trade-clause-protected contract)?
Does anyone have the notion that KP, entering his 9th season in the NBA, was on the verge of a breakout?
Moving Brad & KP, heading in a new direction, finally starting to build an entirely new generation of the Washington Wizard is "getting better" by definition. How many 35-win seasons in a row does anyone want to endure.
Right now, today, the Washington Wizards are a team with a future -- oh man, you bet, that's "better," a ton "better," than the world we were all living in a few weeks ago.
You want to go back, do you?
Not me. No thanks.
Gig18 wrote:payitforward wrote:gambitx777 wrote:Are we entirely sure we didn't? Like loosing KP hurt but Kuz was a stat filler and not much else. Beal for as much as we all loved him I mean he didn't ever move the needle on his own.
Well, of course "we got better tonight!"
Before the draft started we didn't have Coulabily, & we didn't have Vutkevic, & we didn't have Patrick Baldwin, Jr.
Now we have all 3 of those guys, which is -- obviously, I'd say
As far as "complete dismantling" -- by which I take you to mean a) trading Brad & b) trading KP -- those moves too made us better.
The team we had was capable of winning 35 games (the conclusive evidence for that claim being the fact that we won 35 games).
Does anyone have the idea that Bradley Beal was going to get better as a player over the next year or so (let alone the 4 years of his idiotic, no-trade-clause-protected contract)?
Does anyone have the notion that KP, entering his 9th season in the NBA, was on the verge of a breakout?
Moving Brad & KP, heading in a new direction, finally starting to build an entirely new generation of the Washington Wizard is "getting better" by definition. How many 35-win seasons in a row does anyone want to endure.
Right now, today, the Washington Wizards are a team with a future -- oh man, you bet, that's "better," a ton "better," than the world we were all living in a few weeks ago.
You want to go back, do you?
Not me. No thanks.
Good for you. You can like the direction. You can like the strategy. But we did not "get better." Nearly everyone seems to agree we'll probably lose more games next year. To suggest that's better is spin.
Maybe we will win more games next year. Then I will be wrong.
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:payitforward wrote:Other than that I wish TJ-D were coming to us not going to GS, I pronounce myself satisfied, only... wait...
I thought we had the #35 from Boston? Is Julian Phillips coming to us?
Nope, I believe we traded him to Chicago for two future seconds.
closg00 wrote:long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:payitforward wrote:Other than that I wish TJ-D were coming to us not going to GS, I pronounce myself satisfied, only... wait...
I thought we had the #35 from Boston? Is Julian Phillips coming to us?
Nope, I believe we traded him to Chicago for two future seconds.
Why did we trade 35, but kept 42?!?!
