Political Roundtable Part XXXIII

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[Zonkerbl]

I hope and pray that accidentally giving Nazi salutes is the most evil thing the Republicans do under Trump.

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I hope and pray that accidentally giving Nazi salutes is the most evil thing the Republicans do under Trump.

Very Dr Strangelove-esque....Mein Fuhrer!!!!

[dobrojim]

It's mourning in America

[dobrojim]

I hope and pray that accidentally giving Nazi salutes is the most evil thing the Republicans do under Trump.

But seriously, what are the chances? Between deliberate intent and incompetence/lack or awareness...IDK.

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Jim you literally own Melania coin and you performed YMCA on your dobro at the inauguration. Spare us the feigned outrage.

[dobrojim]

Nice try. It's appreciated. But if Jon Stewart can't do that, what are your chances?
But please don't stop trying.

[Zonkerbl]

I think one of the worst things that happened under the first Trump administration is he got away with his idiotic trade war with China. Instead of causing a global recession, he instead delayed a lot of economic growth that ended up happening under Biden. Somehow Fox News convinced everyone they were miserable anyway (it didn't help that the COVID payments were yanked out from under everybody in the middle of Biden's admin).

So now Trump's going to do it again and this time the consequences might be pretty dire. Hopefully the same thing will happen - it will just put the brakes on world economic growth, instead of causing a worldwide economic meltdown. We'll see, I guess.

[Zonkerbl]

This is what we're reduced to... begging for mercy from the evil tyrant and the evil bastards who voted him in:

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lgbjfmjsvm2u

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This is what we're reduced to... begging for mercy from the evil tyrant and the evil bastards who voted him in:

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lgbjfmjsvm2u

Brave pastor, that was really something.

[pancakes3]

This is what we're reduced to... begging for mercy from the evil tyrant and the evil bastards who voted him in:

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lgbjfmjsvm2u

Brave pastor, that was really something.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-demands-apology-from-bishop-mariann-budde-after-she-hurt-his-feelings/

[Zonkerbl]

:EYEROLL:

[dobrojim]

Folks need to bring out the Baby-in-daipers blimp (again).

It's always just about him.

[Zonkerbl]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/federal-workers-told-name-dei-colleagues-risk-adverse-consequences-rcna188871

Exactly as I said it would play out, except instead of calling his witch hunting rules "anti woke" he's going after DEI. But he'll expand the anti-woke rules soon enough

[dobrojim]

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https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/22/trump-pardons-jan-6-federal-judge-00199948

Howell lets Trump have it in blunt terms. Refuses to dismiss "with prejudice" the charges.
Best news since the election. Howell basically called BS on the justifications for the pardons
describing them as a "revisionist myth' and said no grave national injustice occurred by
prosecuting Trump's brownshirts.

And in more good news, major kudos to Bishop Budde. This is an impressive strong women,
just the type that men like Golfy or Hegseth for that matter, can't abide.

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[pancakes3]

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5101007-chutkan-trump-pardons-jan-6/

Judge Chutkan re: the pardons:

[Trump's pardons] cannot whitewash the blood, feces and terror that the mob left in its wake

succinct.

[Zonkerbl]

https://www.10tv.com/article/news/local/columbus-man-pardoned-by-president-trump-opens-up-about-his-role-jan-6/530-005e72aa-b40a-4261-994b-dfb6a780e763

Of course he says all the right things in public now, but this is a bad person who will not face any accountability for his evil acts. He has a fricking job waiting for him on the outside, absolutely privileged white male bs, do whatever the heck you want because the rules for you are completely different.

[dobrojim]

Guys like Campbell ^ should get mandatory misinformation recognition training as a condition
of their pardons... says he 'had questions about the '20 election'. Of course that's the last thing
Trump would impose on any of his true believers.

[pancakes3]

i understand the sentiment but I'm wary of lib solutions that involve [re]education. obviously yes, low information and misinformation is a big concern, as is the lack of critical thinking but I think the onus is on the dems to get better at messaging (or even having a message).

the party needs a reckoning and has needed one since 2015. That's a decade ago, and dems have gotten worse.

[Zonkerbl]

Dems have been dithering since 2016. They have no idea how to move forward. Say what you will about Bernie, if it had been Bernie against Trump in 2016 Bernie would have probably won in a landslide and we would be having a very different conversation right now. And I'm saying this as someone who loves Bernie to death but thinks a lot of his followers are absolute bat@#$% crazy.

And it's not so much the Dems fault as the moderate dems who they represent. These people will absolutely not listen to pleas to consider not spitting on the Black Lives Matter movement. People who put their hands on their ears and yell LALALALALA when the so-called "radical left" asks them not to unconditionally support a right wing fascist's genocide in Palestine.

Republicans won because even though their radical right wing is a 100 times more evil and crazy than the Dems left wing, they were able to swallow their pride and embrace their extremist kooks, and the dems couldn't (embrace people who would like the US to be slightly less evil). That's why we are where we are now. Because a lot of the angry know nothing dummies who voted for Trump could probably have been convinced to vote for a crazy firebrand lefty just as easily. And instead the most radical person we can put up as a candidate is HRC? Or her clone Kamala Harris? JFC.

If you voted for Trump you're either evil or stupid or both. But what does that say about the Dems and their voters? Is evil and stupid that hard to defeat? All you had to do was swallow your pride just a tiny little bit, and you couldn't. You would rather give up on democracy altogether than consider lowering police budgets slightly. You would rather allow anti-woke witch hunts to happen than stop providing military support to NetanyaTrump. I'm disappointed.