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Political Roundtable Part XI

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XI 

Post#1921 » by gtn130 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:16 pm

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gtn130 wrote:[Trump himself has acknowledged Russia was behind it. There is ample evidence - as received by cyber security experts - that whoever executed the hack has an extensive history of working in conjunction with Russian interests.



Please show me a link where Trump admits that the Wiki emails came from Russian hacking.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-cites-kremlin-statement-to-deny-reports-of-russia-ties-asks-if-we-are-living-in-nazi-germany/2017/01/11/a710f2b4-d777-11e6-b8b2-cb5164beba6b_story.html
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XI 

Post#1922 » by AFM » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:32 pm

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Post#1923 » by AFM » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:32 pm

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XI 

Post#1924 » by DCZards » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:57 pm

gtn130 wrote:Trump himself has acknowledged Russia was behind it. There is ample evidence - as received by cyber security experts - that whoever executed the hack has an extensive history of working in conjunction with Russian interests.


...and you can bet that if Trump has acknowledged that Russia was behind the hacking the intel shared with him by the American intelligence community is pretty convincing. It's clear that the last thing Trump wanted to do was admit that the Russians were involved.
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Political Roundtable Part XI 

Post#1925 » by closg00 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:59 pm

dckingsfan wrote:I think the part that is hard to grapple with is that Wikileaks and BuzzFeed leaks are VERY likely to be substantially and materially true and we will never fully understand the source.


An important fact to keep in-mind is that our own Intelligence Agencies thought that the dossier on Trump was important enough to include it in their report to him. I would love to have seen the look on Trumps face and his thought-bubble "****, they know about the golden showers"
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Post#1926 » by dckingsfan » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:02 pm

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Post#1927 » by AFM » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:05 pm

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Post#1928 » by gtn130 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:14 pm

Trump releasing his tax returns would instantly clear up any potential business conflicts with Russia. Still won't do it though. *thinking face emoji*
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Post#1929 » by Wizardspride » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:25 pm

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gtn130 wrote:Trump himself has acknowledged Russia was behind it. There is ample evidence - as received by cyber security experts - that whoever executed the hack has an extensive history of working in conjunction with Russian interests.


...and you can bet that if Trump has acknowledged that Russia was behind the hacking the intel shared with him by the American intelligence community is pretty convincing. It's clear that the last thing Trump wanted to do was admit that the Russians were involved.

Exactly.

President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.
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Post#1930 » by Wizardspride » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:26 pm

If you value the BBC....


President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.
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Post#1931 » by dckingsfan » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:17 pm

AFM wrote:Oops...
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Why do we struggle to have faith in our intelligence (oxymoron?) community?
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Post#1932 » by dckingsfan » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:25 pm

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U.S. Cities Experienced Another Big Rise In Murder In 2016
By Jeff Asher of the Five-Thirty-Eight Blog


Murder almost certainly increased substantially in the U.S. in 2016, one year after it rose at its fastest pace in a quarter century.

The government won’t release official 2016 crime statistics for another nine months. But data from individual police departments indicates that murder rose in most of the country’s biggest cities in 2016, in some cases dramatically. Because a large share of murders take place in big cities, a substantial increase there means that the country’s overall murder total almost certainly rose as well.

Using a combination of official police data and local media reports, I was able to collect murder counts through at least November 2016 for 73 of the 83 U.S. cities with populations above 250,000, and partial data for all but one of the rest.2 The counts are preliminary and could be subject to change before they are submitted to the FBI for inclusion in the Uniform Crime Report that will be published in September.

This year’s rise appears slightly smaller than last year’s dramatic increase. The big cities experienced roughly a 11.3 percent increase in murder in 2016, which is down from the same group’s 14.8 percent increase from 2014 to 2015. Still, the figures suggest that big cities have seen murder rise by more than a quarter in just two years, likely the biggest two-year increase since 1989 to 1991.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/u-s-cities-experienced-another-big-rise-in-murder-in-2016/


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XI 

Post#1933 » by nate33 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:11 am

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nate33 wrote:
U.S. Cities Experienced Another Big Rise In Murder In 2016
By Jeff Asher of the Five-Thirty-Eight Blog


Murder almost certainly increased substantially in the U.S. in 2016, one year after it rose at its fastest pace in a quarter century.

The government won’t release official 2016 crime statistics for another nine months. But data from individual police departments indicates that murder rose in most of the country’s biggest cities in 2016, in some cases dramatically. Because a large share of murders take place in big cities, a substantial increase there means that the country’s overall murder total almost certainly rose as well.

Using a combination of official police data and local media reports, I was able to collect murder counts through at least November 2016 for 73 of the 83 U.S. cities with populations above 250,000, and partial data for all but one of the rest.2 The counts are preliminary and could be subject to change before they are submitted to the FBI for inclusion in the Uniform Crime Report that will be published in September.

This year’s rise appears slightly smaller than last year’s dramatic increase. The big cities experienced roughly a 11.3 percent increase in murder in 2016, which is down from the same group’s 14.8 percent increase from 2014 to 2015. Still, the figures suggest that big cities have seen murder rise by more than a quarter in just two years, likely the biggest two-year increase since 1989 to 1991.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/u-s-cities-experienced-another-big-rise-in-murder-in-2016/


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You also have to factor that a lot less "shootings" become "murders" in this age of advanced medicine. The true decline in criminal violence isn't as great as that graph makes it appear. It's just that people are more likely to survive shootings.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XI 

Post#1934 » by nate33 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:13 am

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dckingsfan wrote:
nate33 wrote:
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You also have to factor that a lot less "shootings" become "murders" in this age of advanced medicine. The true decline in criminal violence isn't as great as that graph makes it appear. It's just that people are more likely to survive shootings.


But what interests me isn't the long term trend. I don't deny that it's generally downward. What interests me is the recent spike that corresponds in both time period and location to areas of high BLM activity. A fair hypothesis can be made that Black Lives Matter is killing blacks.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XI 

Post#1935 » by NatP4 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:28 am

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nate33 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:Don't look at the blips... look at the long-term trends
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You also have to factor that a lot less "shootings" become "murders" in this age of advanced medicine. The true decline in criminal violence isn't as great as that graph makes it appear. It's just that people are more likely to survive shootings.


But what interests me isn't the long term trend. I don't deny that it's generally downward. What interests me is the recent spike that corresponds in both time period and location to areas of high BLM activity. A fair hypothesis can be made that Black Lives Matter is killing blacks.


Imagine that
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XI 

Post#1936 » by closg00 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:01 am

You gotta love this, if Trump were a Democrat the hearings would get started on Day One.


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XI 

Post#1937 » by DCZards » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:49 am

nate33 wrote:
nate33 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:Don't look at the blips... look at the long-term trends
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You also have to factor that a lot less "shootings" become "murders" in this age of advanced medicine. The true decline in criminal violence isn't as great as that graph makes it appear. It's just that people are more likely to survive shootings.


But what interests me isn't the long term trend. I don't deny that it's generally downward. What interests me is the recent spike that corresponds in both time period and location to areas of high BLM activity. A fair hypothesis can be made that Black Lives Matter is killing blacks.


Nonsense. I really wish you would stop sharing your prejudices, stereotypes and narrow-mindedness about the black community and black people.
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Post#1938 » by JWizmentality » Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:15 am

closg00 wrote:You gotta love this, if Trump were a Democrat the hearings would get started on Day One.


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No kiddin, Repubs would be rioting in the streets. :lol:
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Post#1940 » by nate33 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:56 pm

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