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Political Roundtable Part XV

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Post#1921 » by gtn130 » Thu Nov 2, 2017 10:10 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:My intentions here are too stimulate thought and conversation. Not talking points.


Buddy, you were literally spouting off last week about how it's disrespectful to question a four star general. You learned that talking point from Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders wrote:If you want to go after General Kelly, that’s up to you. If you want to get into a debate with a four-star Marine general, I think that that’s something highly inappropriate.


You're telling on yourself with all this projection; I suppose that's another thing you learned from Daddy Trump. By the way, how does his **** taste?
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Post#1922 » by stilldropin20 » Thu Nov 2, 2017 10:45 pm

gtn130 wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:My intentions here are too stimulate thought and conversation. Not talking points.


Buddy, you were literally spouting off last week about how it's disrespectful to question a four star general. You learned that talking point from Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders wrote:If you want to go after General Kelly, that’s up to you. If you want to get into a debate with a four-star Marine general, I think that that’s something highly inappropriate.


You're telling on yourself with all this projection; I suppose that's another thing you learned from Daddy Trump. By the way, how does his **** taste?

Yeah I forgot to mention you. Christ, your a piece of work. And I do understand that in your little mind you think I'm a piece of work because you can't imagine a universe where a lifelong registered Democrat now supports Donald Trump.

And you just can't imagine that I see dumb Donald Trump as nothing more than an agent of change. Just as I saw Bernie Sanders as an agent of change.

The weird thing is is that you clearly see a need for change yourself. Here we are two people looking for change and you just can't for the life of yourself find a way to communicate and negotiate.

And this is a microcosm of what's wrong with the federal government.

The left has people like you dug in so deep on this hard line of b******* with your head so far up your ass that you just can't hear. Too much **** is stuffed in your ears. You can't hear so you definitely can't listen. It's too dark up your gaping ass to see anything either.

So politicians that represent you are "safe" to stay just deep in that ass as you are. You will keep voting for them.

And that's the problem.

And I see that's the problem. And this problem exists on both sides. the Bannon political machine has their own heads up their own asses with their own version of morally bankrupt policies just as far as you do.



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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#1923 » by doclinkin » Thu Nov 2, 2017 11:28 pm

Ruzious wrote:Thing is - when fringe whack job candidates on either side got 2 or 3 percent of the vote, we could laugh them off and put up with them, but now - we got that guy as President. And he's got a real following. That kind of shake-up isn't good for anything.

And the change we needed was in the House and Senate. How was Obama gonna effect change with 2 hands tied behind his back?


I also think any incoming president gets a reality check as soon as he closes the door and meets with the military and the dark ops staff. I think it has to change your world view, and also to realize you are in office for 4-8 years, these people have been doing this job for decades and will remain in power once you walk away. Your influence is limited to your ability to move popular opinion, and to give direction on the policies you are allowed to affect. Executive orders, assigning priority to enforcement of certain laws, some budget recommendations, and a few go/no-go actions as Commander in Chief. You are the Deciderer, as W realized., But you don't really get to decide what information is put in front of you on those daily briefings.

I also think Obama was careful in part because of the legacy of the Civil Rights era. Crusaders like the Kennedys and King and Malcolm X pushed hard to effect great change. And they did. But then what. I think even as a senator Obama was aware and cautious by nature, trying to change things without being a lightning rod, he thinks carefully about the consequences of his every word., There's a reason he has that hesitant verbal tic of carefully selecting his words with a pause and uhhh.

For every action there's an equal and opposite reaction. He understood just his name and color alone were a provocation that could unhinge people. So he had to be more careful, more correct, more proper, more thoughtful. If not for himself, then this country, and his wife, his girls, his life after the office.

If he were the radical firebrand and liberal/progressive-jihadist that he was labelled as (and libeled as) then I don't think he would have lived out his tenure in office. Look at what has fallen out from under the rotten log when it was flipped over.

Yes. Thing is Obama was too smart to fall for that. Too smart to be baited. it meant he had to play cautioous, even if he was unable to foirce the issue and live up to the occasionally firey rhetoric of his campaign. But the IDGAF boldness of of late tenure year 7 Obama was him at his best. I think Trump got elected in part becasue Obama wasn't firey enough. That people were ready to throw caution away and risk bold action, even if it was wrong headed and unguided. The Obama of the late presidency saw a steady rise in his popularity and he shrugged off criticism and did what he felt he had to do wihout worrying about stepping on toes. And you know america, we always love a tough talking action hero more than a careful thoughtful constitutional law professor.

It's why people love Joe Biden. He will put his foot in his mouth at times but you never have a doubt what he thinks or feels. He's gonna tell you straight. Another reason Hillary is distrusted, she was tougher and funnier and more likable in her emails than in her public speech. Public caution occasionally looks like something to hide.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#1924 » by AFM » Thu Nov 2, 2017 11:57 pm

Kevin Spacey now has 4 different accusers, including a 14 year old acting student of his who he continuously raped in his rectum. Disgusting.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#1925 » by AFM » Thu Nov 2, 2017 11:58 pm

Trump needs to deport Spacey

Build the wall around Hollywood and not let any food or water in
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#1926 » by Wizardspride » Fri Nov 3, 2017 12:33 am

AFM wrote:Trump needs to deport Spacey

Build the wall around Hollywood and not let any food or water in

Trump just MIGHT belong among them.

We shall see.

President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#1927 » by Pointgod » Fri Nov 3, 2017 12:38 am

Wizardspride wrote:
AFM wrote:Trump needs to deport Spacey

Build the wall around Hollywood and not let any food or water in

Trump just MIGHT belong among them.

We shall see.


Not might he is among them. He admitted to sexual assault on tape. He's one in the same as Weinstein.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#1928 » by Wizardspride » Fri Nov 3, 2017 12:51 am

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President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#1929 » by Pointgod » Fri Nov 3, 2017 12:56 am

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#1930 » by AFM » Fri Nov 3, 2017 1:19 am

da greatest trick da devil ever pulled...convincing people he wasn't a gay pedophile


imagine being 14 and seeing this grin up close

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I woulda grabbed the chopper and started spraying
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#1931 » by Dark Faze » Fri Nov 3, 2017 3:06 am

lots of shook ppl in hollywood right now
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#1932 » by Kanyewest » Fri Nov 3, 2017 3:11 am

BTW, I typed in "Kevin" in Google to search for Kevin Spacey and Google suggests Kevin Séraphin.

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#1933 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Nov 3, 2017 3:17 am

AFM wrote:da greatest trick da devil ever pulled...convincing people he wasn't a gay pedophile


imagine being 14 and seeing this grin up close

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I woulda grabbed the chopper and started spraying


i'm glad you are putting this out there.

apparently, R. kelly is still up to his old tricks. He has music compounds in chicago (17) and Atlanta (age of consent 16). Poor families with very young daughter feel that in their daughter's lust for fame, they are "agreeing" to being held captive in the music compounds Owned/operated by Kelly.

Non disclosures and out of court settlements appear to be the only thing keeping this man from getting raped in prison by Bubba and Tiny.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimderogatis/parents-told-police-r-kelly-is-keeping-women-in-a-cult?utm_term=.ywQV4g50W#.me8dax13L
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#1934 » by AFM » Fri Nov 3, 2017 4:37 am

stilldropin20 wrote:
AFM wrote:da greatest trick da devil ever pulled...convincing people he wasn't a gay pedophile


imagine being 14 and seeing this grin up close

Image


I woulda grabbed the chopper and started spraying


i'm glad you are putting this out there.

apparently, R. kelly is still up to his old tricks. He has music compounds in chicago (17) and Atlanta (age of consent 16). Poor families with very young daughter feel that in their daughter's lust for fame, they are "agreeing" to being held captive in the music compounds Owned/operated by Kelly.

Non disclosures and out of court settlements appear to be the only thing keeping this man from getting raped in prison by Bubba and Tiny.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimderogatis/parents-told-police-r-kelly-is-keeping-women-in-a-cult?utm_term=.ywQV4g50W#.me8dax13L


I read that article too. He's literally keeping women as slaves.


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#1935 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Nov 3, 2017 2:43 pm

Donna Brazile confirms what all of us registered democrats knew in 2015-2016. That Bernie Sanders was completely railroaded by the Hillary Rodham Clinton political machine which essentially bought and paid for the DNC.

1. This isnt news. But it is just another example of left wing morally bankrupt policy.

2. Essentially Hillary and her money "hacked" the DNC. And by "her money" yes we are talking about 100's of Millions that came into the Clinton foundation while she was sec of state and a sitting NY senator as Bill did speeches over sees for countries that had "business" with the US government. Infer what you will.

3. I admire Donna Brazile because she names names. including Obama. she points to Obama because Obama was the DNC's meal ticket. But by keeping the DNC "broke dick" OBama and Hillary were able to leverage her money and ground game into full control of the DNC.

4. Those of us that were paying attention in 2008 understood that this deal had been struck then when HRC was named sec of state. and Obama took the nominee.

5. What the DNC failed to realize that Bernie would have been able to earn for it and likely win the presidential race.

But really? the end result? Thats who hacked the election of 2016. HRC hacked the DNC, strong armed it. And Obama allowed it all to happen while he was sitting in the oval office. Privy to it. and essentially the main player to sit by and allow it all to happen. All the while Obama would state things publicly like "he was going to stay out of it" meaning the nomination between HRC and Bernie. Well, according to brazile, He stayed out of it alright. So much so for 8 years that the DNC was flat broke.

This aint fake news folks. CNN is reporting it against their own interests. They even stayed with the story for a whole 3 and a half minutes this morning. which is impressive for them.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#1936 » by AFM » Fri Nov 3, 2017 3:52 pm

8 more accusers came forward today against Mr Spacey. This guy was literally rapin errybudy out here
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#1937 » by dckingsfan » Fri Nov 3, 2017 3:59 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:Donna Brazile confirms what all of us registered democrats knew in 2015-2016. That Bernie Sanders was completely railroaded by the Hillary Rodham Clinton political machine which essentially bought and paid for the DNC.

1. This isnt news. But it is just another example of left wing morally bankrupt policy.

2. Essentially Hillary and her money "hacked" the DNC. And by "her money" yes we are talking about 100's of Millions that came into the Clinton foundation while she was sec of state and a sitting NY senator as Bill did speeches over sees for countries that had "business" with the US government. Infer what you will.

3. I admire Donna Brazile because she names names. including Obama. she points to Obama because Obama was the DNC's meal ticket. But by keeping the DNC "broke dick" OBama and Hillary were able to leverage her money and ground game into full control of the DNC.

4. Those of us that were paying attention in 2008 understood that this deal had been struck then when HRC was named sec of state. and Obama took the nominee.

5. What the DNC failed to realize that Bernie would have been able to earn for it and likely win the presidential race.

But really? the end result? Thats who hacked the election of 2016. HRC hacked the DNC, strong armed it. And Obama allowed it all to happen while he was sitting in the oval office. Privy to it. and essentially the main player to sit by and allow it all to happen. All the while Obama would state things publicly like "he was going to stay out of it" meaning the nomination between HRC and Bernie. Well, according to brazile, He stayed out of it alright. So much so for 8 years that the DNC was flat broke.

This aint fake news folks. CNN is reporting it against their own interests. They even stayed with the story for a whole 3 and a half minutes this morning. which is impressive for them.

I don't agree with you on 1, 4 & 5. But if your point is that the DNC/Hillary lost the election vs. Trump winning - yeah, I agree.

And if your point is that the DNC needs to be purged (all staff, everyone) - literally. Then yes, I agree.

Until then, it will just be more of the same.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#1938 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Nov 3, 2017 4:07 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:Donna Brazile confirms what all of us registered democrats knew in 2015-2016. That Bernie Sanders was completely railroaded by the Hillary Rodham Clinton political machine which essentially bought and paid for the DNC.

1. This isnt news. But it is just another example of left wing morally bankrupt policy.

2. Essentially Hillary and her money "hacked" the DNC. And by "her money" yes we are talking about 100's of Millions that came into the Clinton foundation while she was sec of state and a sitting NY senator as Bill did speeches over sees for countries that had "business" with the US government. Infer what you will.

3. I admire Donna Brazile because she names names. including Obama. she points to Obama because Obama was the DNC's meal ticket. But by keeping the DNC "broke dick" OBama and Hillary were able to leverage her money and ground game into full control of the DNC.

4. Those of us that were paying attention in 2008 understood that this deal had been struck then when HRC was named sec of state. and Obama took the nominee.

5. What the DNC failed to realize that Bernie would have been able to earn for it and likely win the presidential race.

But really? the end result? Thats who hacked the election of 2016. HRC hacked the DNC, strong armed it. And Obama allowed it all to happen while he was sitting in the oval office. Privy to it. and essentially the main player to sit by and allow it all to happen. All the while Obama would state things publicly like "he was going to stay out of it" meaning the nomination between HRC and Bernie. Well, according to brazile, He stayed out of it alright. So much so for 8 years that the DNC was flat broke.

This aint fake news folks. CNN is reporting it against their own interests. They even stayed with the story for a whole 3 and a half minutes this morning. which is impressive for them.


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Looks like Brazile got mixed up between the 2015 and 2016 JFA's.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#1939 » by Kanyewest » Fri Nov 3, 2017 4:12 pm

Here is the story posted by Donna Brazille on Politico.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#1940 » by dckingsfan » Fri Nov 3, 2017 4:38 pm

Kanyewest wrote:Here is the story posted by Donna Brazille on Politico.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

Why did she feel she owed anything to Bernie - not a DNC member.

If there was any notion that HRC was corrupt - it should end here.

If there was any notion that the DNC wasn't complicit - it should end with this.

If there is any notion that the DNC isn't incompetent - it should end here.

For those solidly in the D camp - you should flat out pissed off. You should know that your party nominated a bad candidate. And we got Trump. Instead of looking at how bad the Rs are - you probably want to focus internally on how to clean up this mess.

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