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Re: Wizards 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1921 » by nate33 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 9:08 pm

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Too bad he isn't coming back lol

I'm not so sure about that.

Very few teams have money left, and the Wizards have Bird Rights to pay him more than the $3M they have left of the MLE. I don't think the Wizard are enthusiastic about resigning Jabari, but if the price is low enough they might have interest.
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Re: Wizards 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1922 » by Rainwater » Sat Jul 6, 2019 9:10 pm

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Too bad he isn't coming back lol

I'm not so sure about that.

Very few teams have money left, and the Wizards have Bird Rights to pay him more than the $3M they have left of the MLE. I don't think the Wizard are enthusiastic about resigning Jabari, but if the price is low enough they might have interest.


I hope that is the case, I like Jabari. I don't see it happening but we'll see.
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Re: Wizards 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1923 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Sat Jul 6, 2019 9:13 pm

Didn't think I'd being saying this, but I'd feel a whole better about the bench, if the Wizards re-signed Jabari Parker; I think he'd be a boost for the offense with all the uncertainty on that side of the ball, going into next season.
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Re: Wizards 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1924 » by Rainwater » Sat Jul 6, 2019 9:17 pm

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payitforward wrote:What actual value has been removed from this team? None.

Who is not here from last year's season-ending roster? Dwight Howard, Devin Robinson, Chasson Randle, Bobby Portis, Jeff Green, Trevor Ariza, Sam Dekker, Wes Johnson, Jabari Parker, & Tomas Satoransky. The only guy worth mentioning in that group is Satoransky.


You are missing my point. No one is talking about value. If the plan is that they are not trying to win, going young and are rebuilding what is the point of keeping Beal? The writing was on the wall once they traded Otto. And I understand. All the players you have listed above if they had stayed together with Beal would have won more games than the current roster; however, to what end? Just to be a borderline playoff to crappy basketball team??? So they decided to rebuild and go young which is completely understandable.

So if the end is to rebuild and not win why keep and resign Beal? Why hurt your flexibility? If they did keep Beal, it would make the Otto deal a bit confusing.

Right, if last year's team had stayed together, the team would likely have won 29 or 30 games this season. That was the pace of the team after trading Porter (10 wins in 28 games).

I suppose you could argue that the team should trade Beal & simply start over. That's what OKC is doing by having traded Paul George.

But, Paul George let management know that he didn't want to stay with the team. Beal has said that he wants to stay. &, I imagine Brad has had full & frank discussions with Sheppard & Leonsis, so he knows what's going on.

OTOH, if we were offered a deal for Brad that approached what OKC is getting for PG, it would be hard not to go for it! Thing is, if Brad signs an extension, & especially if he improves his play further, there'll be time to trade him later if necessary. If he doesn't sign an extension, I'd say that puts the team in a different position.


You could argue they have already torn it all down only Wall and Beal remain. Wall will likely not be traded for obvious reasons but will Beal it might just be a matter of time unless he truly wants to be here.
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Re: Wizards 2019 Offseason Thread 

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Post#1926 » by gambitx777 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:14 pm

I really like how Tommy is slipping into these trades to pick up assets and players for almost nothing or a nets gain .

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Post#1927 » by WallToWall » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:46 pm

DMC is off the market. He is going to the Lakers.
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Post#1928 » by MDStar » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:00 am

In this league, especially with how things are playing out this offseason, a team needs at least two star players in order to be competitive. With Brad, we already have one. Is it that far fetched that one of Wall, Rui, Brown Jr. or T. Bryant, become that second star over the next two seasons that we need to compete? If we look through that lens, I actually have a bit of hope. All we need is one to take the leap.
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Re: Wizards 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1929 » by JWizmentality » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:21 am

Right now the only person I want off this roster is Ian.
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Re: Wizards 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1930 » by deneem4 » Sun Jul 7, 2019 1:28 am

It’s not a two star league
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Re: Wizards 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1931 » by gravytrain24 » Sun Jul 7, 2019 4:03 am

These recent trades, to me, seem like trade deadline moves. If they perform at their career level or better, we get something out of it. If not, 1 year deal good bye.
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Re: Wizards 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1933 » by payitforward » Sun Jul 7, 2019 10:11 pm

So, we did waive Simmons. We are at 16; one of the non-guaranteed guys will have to go. If I were GM (hah!), it would be Jordan McRae, but I think that's unlikely. Has to be one of Tariq Phillip or Jemerrio Jones.

Actually, come to think of it, it doesn't have to be anybody at all for some months. A good thing; we'll find out if my positive view of Jemerrio Jones will hold up -- even in Summer League.
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Post#1934 » by gambitx777 » Sun Jul 7, 2019 10:23 pm

Well considering we can sign the cut guy to the open two way webdont actually have to "cut any one" if we choose not too. But I would cut McRae and Phillips. And sign Phillips to the open two way and give us an open spot for another big. Preferable a bouncy hard nosed rebounder.
payitforward wrote:So, we did waive Simmons. We are at 16; one of the non-guaranteed guys will have to go. If I were GM (hah!), it would be Jordan McRae, but I think that's unlikely. Has to be one of Tariq Phillip or Jemerrio Jones.

Actually, come to think of it, it doesn't have to be anybody at all for some months. A good thing; we'll find out if my positive view of Jemerrio Jones will hold up -- even in Summer League.


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Post#1935 » by Kanyewest » Sun Jul 7, 2019 10:40 pm

payitforward wrote:So, we did waive Simmons. We are at 16; one of the non-guaranteed guys will have to go. If I were GM (hah!), it would be Jordan McRae, but I think that's unlikely. Has to be one of Tariq Phillip or Jemerrio Jones.

Actually, come to think of it, it doesn't have to be anybody at all for some months. A good thing; we'll find out if my positive view of Jemerrio Jones will hold up -- even in Summer League.


Honestly I hadn't seen anything until you mentioned it so I googled it.

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Re: Wizards 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1936 » by gambitx777 » Sun Jul 7, 2019 11:36 pm

Look at the depth chart right now considering brown and bonga can play 1-3 I really feel like we need to cut McRae and Phillips. Just an opinion we have too many guards.
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payitforward wrote:So, we did waive Simmons. We are at 16; one of the non-guaranteed guys will have to go. If I were GM (hah!), it would be Jordan McRae, but I think that's unlikely. Has to be one of Tariq Phillip or Jemerrio Jones.

Actually, come to think of it, it doesn't have to be anybody at all for some months. A good thing; we'll find out if my positive view of Jemerrio Jones will hold up -- even in Summer League.


Honestly I hadn't seen anything until you mentioned it so I googled it.

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Re: Wizards 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1937 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Mon Jul 8, 2019 12:11 am

When do we find out about the exemption for a Wall?

Would that provide us enough room under the cap to sign Parker? Does Wall count against our 15 man roster if we get the exemption?

If I could, I’d find any way to unload Ian, cut Phillips, keep McCrae and resign Jabari.

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Beal/Admiral/McCrae/Bonga
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Re: Wizards 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1938 » by nate33 » Mon Jul 8, 2019 3:45 am

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:When do we find out about the exemption for a Wall?

Would that provide us enough room under the cap to sign Parker? Does Wall count against our 15 man roster if we get the exemption?

If I could, I’d find any way to unload Ian, cut Phillips, keep McCrae and resign Jabari.

IT/ISH/Robinson/Wall
Beal/Admiral/McCrae/Bonga
Brown/Miles
Parker/Rui/Jones
Bryant/Bertrans/Wagner

We don't need an exception to sign Jabari. We still have his bird rights. The only real issue is the luxury tax.

We would need to cut two minimum salary guys to generate a roster spot. That would save us another $2M under the luxury-tax. That gets us to a total of $6M in luxtax room. As long as Jabari costs less than $6M, it's not a problem.
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Re: Wizards 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1939 » by MOrgil » Mon Jul 8, 2019 4:28 am

I'll be super satisfied if Tommy ships Mahinmi for an asset, and maybe bring back Jabari.
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Post#1940 » by deneem4 » Mon Jul 8, 2019 4:34 am

MDStar wrote:In this league, especially with how things are playing out this offseason, a team needs at least two star players in order to be competitive. With Brad, we already have one. Is it that far fetched that one of Wall, Rui, Brown Jr. or T. Bryant, become that second star over the next two seasons that we need to compete? If we look through that lens, I actually have a bit of hope. All we need is one to take the leap.


Not even that we just need Those guys to be solid at their role and position
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