Official Trade Thread - Part XLIV

[Benjammin]

After these two brutal losses and the fool's gold winning streak, can we please burn down this roster and start over? Or is one home play-in game that valuable to Uncle Teddy?

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

After these two brutal losses and the fool's gold winning streak, can we please burn down this roster and start over? Or is one home play-in game that valuable to Uncle Teddy?

Something tells me you already know the answer to that question

[Frichuela]

After these two brutal losses and the fool's gold winning streak, can we please burn down this roster and start over? Or is one home play-in game that valuable to Uncle Teddy?

Something tells me you already know the answer to that question

Sadly the whole fan base knows the answer..F**** Ted and his mediocre front office.

[Dat2U]

It will never happen but quietly I admit Kyrie Irving is exactly the type of player the Wizards need. An elite shot creator from the PG position. On paper, he gives you a legit #1 option and lets Beal & KP fall into their natural 2nd & 3rd option roles.

[doclinkin]

Kyrie is the exact sort of person the organization needs if you want to detonate everything and let the chips fall where they may. He's a phenomenal player. And the opposite of a leader. He's a franchise time-bomb. Kyrie might do well in Miami where there is a culture in place that he can't mess with, headed by the godfather Pat Riley. Here he would deliberately cause problems under Ted, out of disdain, and Tommy would be trying to happy-talk him into behaving. Kyrie is an unguided missile of remarkable talents. No telling where it lands, but bound to be explosive.

[payitforward]

This is wishful thinking.

I think there is 0 chance that they trade Kuzma - particularly after they just moved Rui.

Which is the wrong decision. We should trade him ASAP. He is not worth the +$25 mn/year he is going to command.

At this point, perhaps the best thing would be for Kuzma to play horrible down the stretch and lower his free agency price.

Only "best" if we want to keep him. But... if he plays horrible why do we want to keep him?

[payitforward]

Kyrie is the exact sort of person the organization needs if you want to detonate everything and let the chips fall where they may. He's a phenomenal player. And the opposite of a leader. He's a franchise time-bomb. Kyrie might do well in Miami where there is a culture in place that he can't mess with, headed by the godfather Pat Riley....

& that culture & Pat Riley are why Miami would never trade for him.

[miller31time]

For as much as I complain about this organization, I’d rather treadmill for the next decade than win with Kyrie.

I think thats a rather silly position to take but sadly that's probably how the front office thinks as well.

Not really. Kyrie is the most toxic player in the league and has left each team’s fanbase irate with him and his antics. He’s a truly terrible player to root for and I’d rather not do so.

Winning is important and god knows I’d like this pitiful franchise to win. But there is a line, and Kyrie is it.

Little different than not wanting to draft a player who isn’t a “character guy” and go with Johnny Davis.

[FAH1223]

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[doclinkin]

Kyrie is the exact sort of person the organization needs if you want to detonate everything and let the chips fall where they may. He's a phenomenal player. And the opposite of a leader. He's a franchise time-bomb. Kyrie might do well in Miami where there is a culture in place that he can't mess with, headed by the godfather Pat Riley....

& that culture & Pat Riley are why Miami would never trade for him.

Not true. See Hassan Whiteside. Michael Beasley. Chris Birdman Andersen. Even Jimmy Butler who wore out his welcome a couple other places. And threatened to hit coach Spo in a timeout before Udonis made clear what would happen if he tried. They have a culture where they figure they can shape up problem players and focus them on winning. It may not work, but it doesn't wreck the team if it doesn't.

Actually, not that he's a problem player, but I fully expect John Wall to end up there if he gets bought out.

[doclinkin]

Kyrie is the exact sort of person the organization needs if you want to detonate everything and let the chips fall where they may. He's a phenomenal player. And the opposite of a leader. He's a franchise time-bomb. Kyrie might do well in Miami where there is a culture in place that he can't mess with, headed by the godfather Pat Riley....

& that culture & Pat Riley are why Miami would never trade for him.

That said Jimmy Butler would probably actually strangle him mid game.

[payitforward]

Kyrie is the exact sort of person the organization needs if you want to detonate everything and let the chips fall where they may. He's a phenomenal player. And the opposite of a leader. He's a franchise time-bomb. Kyrie might do well in Miami where there is a culture in place that he can't mess with, headed by the godfather Pat Riley....

& that culture & Pat Riley are why Miami would never trade for him.

Not true. See Hassan Whiteside. Michael Beasley. Chris Birdman Andersen. Even Jimmy Butler who wore out his welcome a couple other places. And threatened to hit coach Spo in a timeout before Udonis made clear what would happen if he tried. They have a culture where they figure they can shape up problem players and focus them on winning. It may not work, but it doesn't wreck the team if it doesn't....

That's a good point, doc.
Though I think I'd call Kyrie a special case. Went #1 in the draft & seems to be a truly colossal axxhoal, in his own category.

Still, I'd give them a better shot at straightening Kyrie out than any other team I can think of. Might be a good thing for him if he went there.

...I fully expect John Wall to end up there if he gets bought out.

Great call -- & I hope so. Be a great place for him finish his career.

[payitforward]

Kyrie is the exact sort of person the organization needs if you want to detonate everything and let the chips fall where they may. He's a phenomenal player. And the opposite of a leader. He's a franchise time-bomb. Kyrie might do well in Miami where there is a culture in place that he can't mess with, headed by the godfather Pat Riley....

& that culture & Pat Riley are why Miami would never trade for him.

That said Jimmy Butler would probably actually strangle him mid game.

Another good reason to send Kyrie to Miami!

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[TGW]

Well that is a trash return. I wonder if Durant asks for a trade now?

[nate33]

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Wow!

I like it! (For Dallas, that is.)

Dallas was really in a bind, with no real avenue to gain a top tier star to pair with Doncic. This is a gamble, but it could pay off nicely. Kyrie was at his best as Robin to Lebron's Batman. Luka Doncic is the closest thing we have to another Lebron (on offense, anyway), so maybe it will work. And the emergence of Josh Green makes the loss of DFS palatable.

Dallas is going to have to make some moves in the offseason to acquire more defenders to place around them, but this is a pretty good move. Luka and Kyrie are the primary options, and Bullock, Hardaway, Green, Kleber, Powell and Wood fill out the rotation.

I wonder if they'll sell high on Wood and find a guy with better defensive chops, since they are no longer as desperate for the offense he provides?

[nate33]

Well that is a trash return. I wonder if Durant asks for a trade now?

I don't think it's a trash return. Two quality starters and a first isn't bad for a total headcase on an expiring contract.

I think the Nets will be pretty formidable in the playoffs with a core rotation of:
Dinwiddie
Joe Harris (or maybe Cam Thomas)
DFS
Durant
Claxton

They also have some depth with guys like Seth Curry, TJ Warren and Ben Simmons.

[FAH1223]

Well that is a trash return. I wonder if Durant asks for a trade now?

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[payitforward]

Well that is a trash return. I wonder if Durant asks for a trade now?

I don't think it's a trash return. Two quality starters and a first isn't bad for a total headcase on an expiring contract.

I can't believe you leave out the multiple R2 picks!! So sad....

[NatP4]

Good return, good move by Dallas.