Official Trade Thread Part XLVI

[gambitx777]

I predict that no one is traded. Brogden gets released…there is no market for him and he makes too much to find a decent trade partner, and theyll let him walk for nothing. No one wants Kuzma…he’s unwanted trash. JV also doesn’t get traded…they probably get offered some junk pick in the 50s that the FO doesn’t feel is worth trading him for.

There is no market for most of the Wizards players. The roster stinks.

That's just an untrue statement. Is the team winning no. But it's not suppose to be we know that. Brogdon got hurt.kiz fell down a well, JV is good but most teams have a center. This roster doesn't stink it's in a rebuild. We have about a week left before the dead line. Relax.

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[dckingsfan]

I predict that no one is traded. Brogden gets released…there is no market for him and he makes too much to find a decent trade partner, and theyll let him walk for nothing. No one wants Kuzma…he’s unwanted trash. JV also doesn’t get traded…they probably get offered some junk pick in the 50s that the FO doesn’t feel is worth trading him for.

There is no market for most of the Wizards players. The roster stinks.

That's just an untrue statement. Is the team winning no. But it's not suppose to be we know that. Brogdon got hurt.kiz fell down a well, JV is good but most teams have a center. This roster doesn't stink it's in a rebuild. We have about a week left before the dead line. Relax.

Actually, it does and in a historical sense.

Maybe you could say, "this roster is historically stinky but it is a feature."?

[doclinkin]

I predict that no one is traded. Brogden gets released…there is no market for him and he makes too much to find a decent trade partner.

Actually his large contract is a feature not a bug. He is expiring. If a team needs to burn cap to duck under the apron, his $22m will come off the books immediately. A cap strapped team can dump a high dollar player on us, freighted with picks. Only issue is the teams that need relief the most have already swapped out most of their picks.

[tontoz]

We are last in offensive and defensive efficiency so yeah, the roster definitely sucks.

[chrbal]

I predict that no one is traded. Brogden gets released…there is no market for him and he makes too much to find a decent trade partner, and theyll let him walk for nothing. No one wants Kuzma…he’s unwanted trash. JV also doesn’t get traded…they probably get offered some junk pick in the 50s that the FO doesn’t feel is worth trading him for.

There is no market for most of the Wizards players. The roster stinks.

JV goes to the Suns, you guys wind up Nurkic. Picks, other players involved.

Wizards trade Brogdon, but not a great return unless you take garbage contracts back.

Baldwin gets waived, unless he’s part of a trade.

I feel like a Marvin Bagley for someone else’s junk trade happens

[TGW]

I predict that no one is traded. Brogden gets released…there is no market for him and he makes too much to find a decent trade partner.

Actually his large contract is a feature not a bug. He is expiring. If a team needs to burn cap to duck under the apron, his $22m will come off the books immediately. A cap strapped team can dump a high dollar player on us, freighted with picks. Only issue is the teams that need relief the most have already swapped out most of their picks.

Maybe, but trying to match his salary to other teams that want to maybe dump a smaller salary without gutting their team is difficult. We have not been seeing deals involving expirings of Brogdon's contract size. Usually they've been smaller (like Bagley).

I hope I'm wrong but I'm not seeing a market for Brogdon unless a team is desperate to unload a completely useless player.

[gambitx777]

So I was looking at something
Goberts contract goes down next year from 43 to 35.
He's basically the worst starting center in the league this year and really should be a back up .

Mini has a 2025 first from Det they can trade a 2028 frost round pick swaps available and 5 seconds including a uta 2025 second that will be 31-35.

Would we do

Kuz, JV, Davis
For
Gobert, Det 2025, the 2028 pick swap and the 5 seconds?

Paying 35 million up to 38 in his finale fmyear is a ton but he's a pro and could help teach Sarr. We have the room to do so and he's only paid about 5 million more than what Kiz and JV make any way. Replacing those two letting gobert recope his value to trade him in the finale year, we won't need the cap relief till then any way when we have to start paying they young guys and he'll be a good tradable contracts then.

Getting a first 5 seconds one of them high and a unprotected pick swap
For
Kuz JV and Davis would be a huge get.

This would do a lot for minisotas flexibility it's gets them out of that gobert contact and JV is definitely better than him right now.

Do we do this trade ?

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[payitforward]

Of course we would do that trade!

Only... Gobert - while not the elite player of his peak - is by no means "bad" in any sense. He's quite good. No way Minny gives all this away for Kyle Kuzma, Johnny Davis & Valanciunas (who's good but not Gobert).

[dckingsfan]

I predict that no one is traded. Brogden gets released…there is no market for him and he makes too much to find a decent trade partner.

Actually his large contract is a feature not a bug. He is expiring. If a team needs to burn cap to duck under the apron, his $22m will come off the books immediately. A cap strapped team can dump a high dollar player on us, freighted with picks. Only issue is the teams that need relief the most have already swapped out most of their picks.

Maybe, but trying to match his salary to other teams that want to maybe dump a smaller salary without gutting their team is difficult. We have not been seeing deals involving expirings of Brogdon's contract size. Usually they've been smaller (like Bagley).

I hope I'm wrong but I'm not seeing a market for Brogdon unless a team is desperate to unload a completely useless player.

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[dckingsfan]

I predict that no one is traded. Brogden gets released…there is no market for him and he makes too much to find a decent trade partner, and theyll let him walk for nothing. No one wants Kuzma…he’s unwanted trash. JV also doesn’t get traded…they probably get offered some junk pick in the 50s that the FO doesn’t feel is worth trading him for.

There is no market for most of the Wizards players. The roster stinks.

That's just an untrue statement. Is the team winning no. But it's not suppose to be we know that. Brogdon got hurt.kiz fell down a well, JV is good but most teams have a center. This roster doesn't stink it's in a rebuild. We have about a week left before the dead line. Relax.

Actually, it does and in a historical sense.

Maybe you could say, "this roster is historically stinky but it is a feature."?

We just moved into historical stinky range, previous record was -15.1 differential. We are now at -15.2.

[gambitx777]

Of course we would do that trade!

Only... Gobert - while not the elite player of his peak - is by no means "bad" in any sense. He's quite good. No way Minny gives all this away for Kyle Kuzma, Johnny Davis & Valanciunas (who's good but not Gobert).

So of the assets listed which also includues the draft rights to Mateo spangnolo. What of the assets listed would you see as reasonable compensation to take that contract?

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[AFM]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2025/01/29/wizards-rising-stars/

Don’t be surprised if the Wizards go through the trade deadline with one or both of Jonas Valanciunas and Malcolm Brogdon still on the roster, The Washington Post’s Varun Shankar writes. The team could find more value in their leadership than in potential second round picks if offers aren’t to their liking — that was the case last season with Tyus Jones.
The team continues to mentor two-way center Tristan Vukcevic, Shankar writes in the same article. Coach Brian Keefe said a team could run its offense through Vukcevic, but the Wizards want to see him become more of a defensive anchor.

[TGW]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2025/01/29/wizards-rising-stars/

Don’t be surprised if the Wizards go through the trade deadline with one or both of Jonas Valanciunas and Malcolm Brogdon still on the roster, The Washington Post’s Varun Shankar writes. The team could find more value in their leadership than in potential second round picks if offers aren’t to their liking — that was the case last season with Tyus Jones.

I predict that no one is traded. Brogden gets released…there is no market for him and he makes too much to find a decent trade partner, and theyll let him walk for nothing. No one wants Kuzma…he’s unwanted trash. JV also doesn’t get traded…they probably get offered some junk pick in the 50s that the FO doesn’t feel is worth trading him for.

There is no market for most of the Wizards players. The roster stinks.

[tontoz]

The most important guy to trade is Kuzma. Get him out of here I don't even care what we get back.

Kispert will probably be traded prior to the draft similar to Deni.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

The most important guy to trade is Kuzma. Get him out of here I don't even care what we get back.

Kispert will probably be traded prior to the draft similar to Deni.

I just hope we trade Kuzma.

At this point I don't care if all we get back is a 2030 2nd round pick.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

There must be something we can trade to NY to get back our 2026 pick from them.

[dckingsfan]

Seems like these are the trades that are being made? But Fox is now out there so... there could be some bigger trades out there.

Clippers receive:
Drew Eubanks
Patty Mills

Jazz receive:
Mo Bamba
P.J. Tucker
2030 second-round Draft pick
Cash considerations

But it seems like the ceiling for Jonas would be a couple of SRPs. "I guess", you could do a trade with Dallas something like:

Wizards receive:
Kleber
Two (2) SRPs

Dallas receives:
Jonas

But is that a material trade?

[Tyrone Messby]

Meh. Think I’m done with the NBA fellas. Luka to the Lakers for that dog **** return? LOL. Wiz will never be relevant. This **** is worse than the EPL. LeBron doing everything his pathetic ass can to try and win a title. There was ZERO reason for Luka to go to the lakers. This **** is all just entertainment. Barely above the wwe.

[gambitx777]

JV pretty much a lock to the Lakers now right?
Gabe and a first for JV.

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[dorianwrite]

Is Dallas stupid? For what earthly reason would they trade Doncic? Did he demand a trade behind the scenes?

Do they think their fans are stupid? Their serious explanation is that Anthony Davis's defense is the reason they are trading Doncic?

My guess is that this still won't be enough to move the needle for L.A. to win a championship. Gives them a shot, though. The NBA powers-that-be must be pleased.