Otto Porter Part 2

[zero2hero]

Does it strike anyone else as odd that Otto is so far ahead of Beal and Wall in all the impact stats?

Like I'm watching the games and I'm seeing Otto being super efficient, but it never occurs to me that he is impacting the game more then Wall/Beal overall.

Wall in particular seems to come up unimpressive in advanced metrics but from the eye test you see him doing everything on the court.

It has to be Otto's scoring efficiency and his low turnover percentage that drives it, and he's been good defensively also.

Agreed. Not pointing any fingers, but a lot of times we view these stats in a vacuum, where from the eye test it's clear to see that Otto benefits a lot from the gravity of Beal/Wall. Not that that's his fault, though. He gets the opportunities, and cashes in, which is good on him.

[nate33]

Does it strike anyone else as odd that Otto is so far ahead of Beal and Wall in all the impact stats?

Like I'm watching the games and I'm seeing Otto being super efficient, but it never occurs to me that he is impacting the game more then Wall/Beal overall.

Wall in particular seems to come up unimpressive in advanced metrics but from the eye test you see him doing everything on the court.

It has to be Otto's scoring efficiency and his low turnover percentage that drives it, and he's been good defensively also.

The problem for Wall is that "everything" includes a lot of missed shots and turnovers.

Porter shoots well, rarely turns it over, rebounds well and gets a lot of steals. He is actually leading the league in steals per game.

This.

People tend to notice the impact of positive plays, but they don't as easily notice the impact of the absence of negative plays. Porter never turns the ball over and rarely misses shots. Meanwhile he gets a lot of steals, blocks and rebounds to gain possessions.

[Ruzious]

Porter is averaging 20 pts per 36 with a TS of 66%. His assist to turnover ratio is over 4.

One thing to look at is why Porter consistently has such a low turnover rate - he must have the lowest (or close to it) in the NBA even with usage % factored in. I think part of it is he makes quick decisions and doesn't waste time holding onto the ball and dribbling unnecessarily. Jamison was like that, too, even if he didn't play D.

[tontoz]

Porter is averaging 20 pts per 36 with a TS of 66%. His assist to turnover ratio is over 4.

One thing to look at is why Porter consistently has such a low turnover rate - he must have the lowest (or close to it) in the NBA even with usage % factored in. I think part of it is he makes quick decisions and doesn't waste time holding onto the ball and dribbling unnecessarily. Jamison was like that, too, even if he didn't play D.

Porter's bbiq is certainly elite, and was noticable to me early on.

It helps him on both ends. On D he is frequently able to anticipate what is going to happen which is why he gets his hand on so many balls..... Ok that didn't come out the way I intended but you know what I mean.

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[tontoz]

So far he is averaging 19 points per 36 with a TS of 67%.

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[queridiculo]

The Post's best sports writer on the Wizards best player.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wizards/otto-porter-holds-the-wizards-together-with-an-unwavering-ethic-to-improve/2017/11/21/ff2be18c-cee0-11e7-81bc-c55a220c8cbe_story.html

“It’s been a journey,” Porter said since that rookie year he still calls “motivation.”

Back then, Kobe Bryant asked Porter how many shots he took a day. Otto said 500.


“No. It’s got to be 1,000,’” Bryant said. “That stuck with me ever since: Oh, there it is, ” Porter said. “If you want to be better at every aspect of the game, you’ve got to put in the time.”

That applies 365. Weight work, too.

Brooks believes many players only have such a work ethic in response to a shooting slump.

“They get bored with making [thousands of] shots . . . I’m a believer to the day I’m dead that you need diligent consistency every day,” Brooks said. “Success breeds complacency. But the great ones don’t get bored. With Otto I don’t see [complacency]. He’s as consistent as anyone you will ever be around.”

[nate33]

Is there any cap on Porter's upside. He just gets better and better every year. Look at his progression in every meaningful statistic:



At this point, I don't think I would trade him, even for Cousins. As he starts to figure out how to increase his usage rate (and as Brooks starts to let him do so) there's no telling how good he'll get. Why couldn't he score 25 points a game while being an elite defensive glue guy like Kawhi Leonard or Shawn Marion? He can get that fadeaway jumper off whenever he wants to.

He currently ranks 6th in the league in RPM, and among the top 20, only Davis, Giannis, Embiid and Jokic are as young as him.

[dckingsfan]

Is there any cap on Porter's upside. He just gets better and better every year. Look at his progression in every meaningful statistic:



At this point, I don't think I would trade him, even for Cousins. As he starts to figure out how to increase his usage rate (and as Brooks starts to let him do so) there's no telling how good he'll get. Why couldn't he score 25 points a game while being an elite defensive glue guy like Kawhi Leonard or Shawn Marion? He can get that fadeaway jumper off whenever he wants to.

He currently ranks 6th in the league in RPM, and among the top 20, only Davis, Giannis, Embiid and Jokic are as young as him.

I think he is the best player on the team right now (ducks), because he is the best two way player. And I think he is going to get even better (unless he gets hurt).

Now - let's move Oubre to the starting lineup...

[tontoz]

With Wall being out I think it will become clear that Porter isn't dependent on Wall to get good shots. All he needs to get good shots is the ball, which he doesn't see very often late in games.

[NatP4]

With Wall being out I think it will become clear that Porter isn't dependent on Wall to get good shots. All he needs to get good shots is the ball, which he doesn't see very often late in games.

He can post up and shoot over guys, saw him iso on KAT and shoot a crossover pull-up last night what was that all about???!!! He uses his lengthy strides to drive it to the basket also, has that crazy efficient floater game also.

All he needs is to continue to improve his confidence and for everyone else on the team to realize how good he is and we are talking about the next Paul Pierce with HOF talent

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https://sports.yahoo.com/otto-porter-earning-max-money-wolves-found-hard-way-190952598.html

Porter’s recent performances pushed his averages to career highs of 16.3 points and 7.3 rebounds, to go along with 1.6 steals and 1.5 assists in just 33.3 minutes per game. He’s shooting 53.9 percent from the field and a whopping 48.7 percent on 4.1 3-point attempts per game for a healthy true shooting percentage of 64 — also a career high and one of the best marks of any quick forward playing more than 30 minutes a night, just a hair below LeBron James (65.7 percent) and Kevin Durant (64.7).

And that doesn’t even begin to describe Porter’s contributions to the Wizards. With him on the floor, Washington’s offense and defense operate at top-five NBA levels per 100 possessions, scoring 108 and allowing 100.6 points, respectively, for a net rating of plus-7.4 — the highest such mark of any regular rotational player on the team. When Porter goes to the bench, the Wizards run the NBA equivalent of a bottom-10 offense (103.6 points scored per 100 possessions) and the worst defense in the league (109.3 points allowed per 100) for a minus-5.7 net rating — lower than when any other Wiz regular sits.

Add it all up, and the Wizards are 13.1 points per 100 possessions better with Porter in the fold. That’s definitely a better on/off rating than either Wall (10.6) or Beal (9.9) and slightly closer to the difference someone like Milwaukee Bucks sensation and MVP candidate Giannis Antetokounmpo (14.7) is making.

[nate33]

https://sports.yahoo.com/otto-porter-earning-max-money-wolves-found-hard-way-190952598.html

Porter’s recent performances pushed his averages to career highs of 16.3 points and 7.3 rebounds, to go along with 1.6 steals and 1.5 assists in just 33.3 minutes per game. He’s shooting 53.9 percent from the field and a whopping 48.7 percent on 4.1 3-point attempts per game for a healthy true shooting percentage of 64 — also a career high and one of the best marks of any quick forward playing more than 30 minutes a night, just a hair below LeBron James (65.7 percent) and Kevin Durant (64.7).

And that doesn’t even begin to describe Porter’s contributions to the Wizards. With him on the floor, Washington’s offense and defense operate at top-five NBA levels per 100 possessions, scoring 108 and allowing 100.6 points, respectively, for a net rating of plus-7.4 — the highest such mark of any regular rotational player on the team. When Porter goes to the bench, the Wizards run the NBA equivalent of a bottom-10 offense (103.6 points scored per 100 possessions) and the worst defense in the league (109.3 points allowed per 100) for a minus-5.7 net rating — lower than when any other Wiz regular sits.

Add it all up, and the Wizards are 13.1 points per 100 possessions better with Porter in the fold. That’s definitely a better on/off rating than either Wall (10.6) or Beal (9.9) and slightly closer to the difference someone like Milwaukee Bucks sensation and MVP candidate Giannis Antetokounmpo (14.7) is making.[/b]

Quick forward?

Did Ken Beatrice come back from the dead to write this?

[nate33]

Porter is averaging 20 pts per 36 with a TS of 66%. His assist to turnover ratio is over 4.

One thing to look at is why Porter consistently has such a low turnover rate - he must have the lowest (or close to it) in the NBA even with usage % factored in. I think part of it is he makes quick decisions and doesn't waste time holding onto the ball and dribbling unnecessarily. Jamison was like that, too, even if he didn't play D.

Dirk was like that too.

If you get the ball, either shoot it or swing it somewhere else. Don't play with it.

[Dark Faze]

A steroid package and a Bradley Beal dribble drive development summer with Drew Hanlen could really make this boi something else

[Shanghai Kid]

The key with Otto is to stay assertive and aggressive. I think Brooks has to be realizing what kind of weapon he has.

The other key is for Wall and Beal to recognize what we have in Otto and let him shine. All that hero ball in the clutch, they need to recognize they play with an elite shooter, and they can easily run a play for him to score. He showed last night he has zero issues calmly taking shots in the clutch.

[Dark Faze]

The key with Otto is to stay assertive and aggressive. I think Brooks has to be realizing what kind of weapon he has.

The other key is for Wall and Beal to recognize what we have in Otto and let him shine. All that hero ball in the clutch, they need to recognize they play with an elite shooter, and they can easily run a play for him to score. He showed last night he has zero issues calmly taking shots in the clutch.

I'd agree that he should get more plays run for him for game winners. He or John should get free throw icing duties. Brad can't be trusted.

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