TGW wrote:gambitx777 wrote:Can we all just agree we did not make the worst deals this offseason.! I mean there were much worse deals than ours out there!
I'll disagree. I think signing Beal to a 130MM contract is pure buffoonery. One of the worst deals in the league by a good margin. The guy has never sniffed an all-star game. It's yet another example of the Wizards FO rewarding someone before they've actually done anything.
The Mahinmi and Smith deals are embarrassing. Burke is a damn joke.
The only semi-decent move is bringing in Satoransky, and last time we saw him in the NBA he looked worse than Aaron White.
IMO, this was a HUGE bust of an offseason, 3 seasons in the making. And not only that, GrunFAILED strapped the team with huge contracts in the future. Sad part is, this offseason could have been successful even without getting Durant or Horford.
Sullinger got a cheap deal for way under market value. Terrence Jones and Jordan Hill can be had for pennies. If you're going to sign meaningless bums, at least spend as little as possible. Instead they spent OVER $100,000,000 combined on 3 mediocre backup bigs
Have to agree with a lot of this. In a vacuum, Mahinmi's deal was in line with the new market for starting bigs - the problem is we signed him to be a backup. I can't believe that Jason Smith had any other offers that were anywhere close to what we gave him. We clearly rushed and bid against ourselves, and it is now obvious that we could have gotten better players for less. I didn't mind the Burke deal when it happened, but again we've seen other players (Vasquez, Jack) available for less. Even if we really wanted Burke, we could still have waited and tried to make Utah pay us to take his contract of their hands so they could have room for some of the other moves they've made.
I love the Satoransky move (great price, well executed draft-and-stash), and I'm not against the Nicholson signing. He's the one guy I'm willing to take a wait-and-see approach with. I'm not expecting him to be a breakout star, but he could be a rotation guy that helps with bench scoring. We still overpaid, but proportionally not as much as Mahimi or Smith IMO. Even so, we could have waited and had Sullinger for much less.
The Beal contract has me torn. I advocated dealing him last season so we could avoid this scenario altogether, but now that it's here I can see both sides. On the one hand, he's an injury prone underachiever. On the other hand, he's still young and has been a legit difference maker in the playoffs (which a lot of guys can't do, even some All Stars). As with some of the other moves, had they waited, they might have gotten a better price (or at least not had to give a 5th year). I think I know why they rushed - they wanted to include Beal as part of their pitch for Horford. But even then Beal was restricted, so they could have matched any offer anyway. Horford and his agent would have understood that.
Here's what seems to me to be a very realistic alternate offseason that puts us in a MUCH better longterm cap situation:
Beal - 4 years, $96M (or whatever a 4 year max would be)
Sullinger - 1 year, $8M (have to outbid Toronto's MLE offer)
Satoransky - 3 years, $9M (same price we gave him)
Dedmon - 2 years, $12M (double his SA deal, but again we need to outbid)
Vasquez - 1 year minimum
Eric - 1 year minimum (give a SL standout a shot)
So we add just as much depth, but leave ourselves open to still be relevant next offseason if the opportunity for a huge splash comes our way. Like I said in another thread, I can't go into a season and not root for my guys. But this offseason should have gone differently.
