Bradley Beal - Part III

[payitforward]

nate -- you often write about Simmons playing at Forward. What if we added Rui to this deal, & they added Danny Green?

In truth, I don't want to trade Rui, & I don't want to acquire Green (b/c he is too old to be of much long-term help).

But, this adjustment does even out the $$, & it makes it easier to play Simmons at the 4. Plus, maybe we could flip Green...?

Seems like an unnecessary sacrifice of value....

I.e., I guess you think Rui has more trade value than Danny Green. If so, then of course it wouldn't be an adjustment we want....

...I'm not too worried about Rui and Simmons coexisting. Rui is showing signs that he will take and make 3's without hesitating, which will be a big help. Defensively, there's no issue at all because Rui can guard the 3, 4 and 5, and Simmons can guard all 5 spots. I'd trade Rui for a young guard of equivalent value, but I wouldn't move him for a guy like Danny Green just to try and balance the roster....

I'm not worried about Rui & Simmons coexisting either, nor about balancing the roster.

I'm just looking for assets & salaries that would work & which might interest Philly -- make a trade happen.
I don't think Philly would move either Maxey or Thybulle for Rui, do you?
I wonder whether they'd trade Springer for Rui...? Probably not.

...My ideal scenario would be to trade Deni or Rui for Haliburton. Haliburton would be perfect as a guard alongside Simmons because of his off-ball complementary play but also his ability to run pick-and-roll.

No kidding! But, there is not a chance in the world that Sacramento would trade Haliburton for Rui. Zero. & if we substitute Deni for Rui, they still wouldn't be interested.

[Silvie Lysandra]

remember when andrew wiggins was just there to make contracts match in a hypothesized beal to GSW trade, and now GSW would probably laugh us off the phone if we offered Beal for Wiggins straight up

[Benjammin]

Yeah, pretty funny right now. I'm resigned that they will resign him to a cap crushing deal.

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[dlts20]

I put this in the game thread but it's probably more applicable here.

Lmao. I've honestly lost $400 in the last week. Either losing the game like losing by 1 to the Nets but mostly losing on Beal points. It's only 23.5 and he can't even come close anymore... Lmao

This dude ate 23 points like nothing last year and now I keep losing money on it... Lmao

Trade this dude before I punch him in the face... Lol

[Kanyewest]

My friend had a parlay on Beal getting a double double- and Beal didn't come through on the points

(Granted he also had Kyrie getting a double double which didn't happen but still)

[badinage]

Betting. Micro-bets. The rampant proliferation of this shxt. Another thing I hate Leonis for.

He alone didn’t push this. But he did push. It’s awful. I hate that it junks up my screen. And that the media just goes right along with it — encouraging people to do it.

[Benjammin]

Owners who profit from gambling should be required to pay into a fund for treatment for addicted gamblers..

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[Frichuela]

For those who still like to keep Beal, I recommend they read this by Kevin Broom...

Bottom line- Beal has been mediocre this year. His PPA is very pedestrian when looking at other NBA top guns...

https://www.bulletsforever.com/2022/1/29/22907100/stumbling-wizards-are-bumbling-into-a-big-mistake

I mean it's preposterous that Terd and Tommy keep insisting he is a franchise talent to build around...

[pcbothwel]

For those who still like to keep Beal, I recommend they read this by Kevin Broom...

Bottom line- Beal has been mediocre this year. His PPA is very pedestrian when looking at other NBA top guns...

https://www.bulletsforever.com/2022/1/29/22907100/stumbling-wizards-are-bumbling-into-a-big-mistake

I mean it's preposterous that Terd and Tommy keep insisting he is a franchise talent to build around...

Broom misrepresents # 3. Just because Beal is a #2 and some fans want to keep him, doesnt mean you accept that we cant compete and be happy with 45 min teams.

Beal is a Lavine/Booker level player more or less. So how is it that the Suns, Bulls, and Heat are running this league right now?
Butler, CP3, Derozan, Lowry, Lonzo Ball etc.... All acquired through SnT.

Beal WILL bounce back. The question is how our other assets, especially our recent lotto picks, perform as a compliment.

[Silvie Lysandra]

Broom misrepresents # 3. Just because Beal is a #2 and some fans want to keep him, doesnt mean you accept that we cant compete and be happy with 45 min teams.

Beal is a Lavine/Booker level player more or less. So how is it that the Suns, Bulls, and Heat are running this league right now?
Butler, CP3, Derozan, Lowry, Lonzo Ball etc.... All acquired through SnT.

Beal WILL bounce back. The question is how our other assets, especially our recent lotto picks, perform as a compliment.

1: Lavine and Booker didn't get supermaxed, and are considerably younger. They're both better than Beal is now on top of that.
2: LaVine is the 2nd best player on a very deep team, Booker might be the 4th best player on his team (Paul is definitely better, Ayton is probably better, Bridges has a strong argument)

[Dark Faze]

Certainly there's a chance Beal could deliver another season as good as last year if not better, and we certainly have the pieces as a team to probably acquire an all-star caliber player and pull a "Chicago Bulls".

If we're going that route (through Sabonis I would assume), Ideally I'd like to consolidate Gafford + one of Bryant or Trez for a center that fits better with Sabonis. The only guys that immediately come to mind are Turner and Wood.

[nate33]

Certainly there's a chance Beal could deliver another season as good as last year if not better, and we certainly have the pieces as a team to probably acquire an all-star caliber player and pull a "Chicago Bulls".

It's that chance that still gives Beal trade value. If we wait until that no longer appears likely, and after he signs a new contract with $45M a year; the opportunity to trade him for value vanishes.

[WallToWall]

Reports are that a sprained left hand will put him out of action for the next couple games.

[80sballboy]

Reports are that a sprained left hand will put him out of action for the next couple games.

Sure Jan. Not trying to showcase Dinwiddie.

[Frichuela]

The Wiz express heading to the NBA draft lottery fast!

[queridiculo]

The Wiz express heading to the NBA draft lottery fast!

I can't wait to be disappointed by whomever the Wizards pick 9th overall next

[nate33]

Reports are that a sprained left hand will put him out of action for the next couple games.

Or are we in trade talks involving Beal and don't want an injury to derail them?

[FAH1223]

Reports are that a sprained left hand will put him out of action for the next couple games.

Or are we in trade talks involving Beal and don't want an injury to derail them?

No.

Beal, as the assistant GM, is sitting out because he and the brass know Dinwiddie plays much better without Beal in. They're looking to move Spencer.

And the game is on TNT... a national audience.

It's so obvious what's happening.

[nate33]

Reports are that a sprained left hand will put him out of action for the next couple games.

Or are we in trade talks involving Beal and don't want an injury to derail them?

No.

Beal, as the assistant GM, is sitting out because he and the brass know Dinwiddie plays much better without Beal in. They're looking to move Spencer.

And the game is on TNT... a national audience.

It's so obvious what's happening.

I know that's what several on this board are saying, but I really doubt that Beal would bench himself in his role as GM. It goes against everything in his nature. Beal is still a competitor who wants to win games. We've never seen any indication that Beal is willing to tank over the short term to put himself in better position for the long term. All we've heard for the last 3 years is the exact opposite - that we are willing to sacrifice the future to win a few more games now.

Frankly, if Beal is this willing to sacrifice wins now to build for the future, then it means he will be willing to tank the rest of the season for a high pick. After all, if he has already given up on the season, why not go all the way? That "wrist injury" can last for the next 3 months.

Another reason I don't think this is being implemented by "Beal the GM" is due to the very real possibility that the team plays better without Beal. Beal is trying to land a max contract. The last thing he needs to demonstrate is that the team is worse with him than without him.

[FAH1223]

Or are we in trade talks involving Beal and don't want an injury to derail them?

No.

Beal, as the assistant GM, is sitting out because he and the brass know Dinwiddie plays much better without Beal in. They're looking to move Spencer.

And the game is on TNT... a national audience.

It's so obvious what's happening.

I know that's what several on this board are saying, but I really doubt that Beal would bench himself in his role as GM. It goes against everything in his nature. Beal is still a competitor who wants to win games. We've never seen any indication that Beal is willing to tank over the short term to put himself in better position for the long term. All we've heard for the last 3 years is the exact opposite - that we are willing to sacrifice the future to win a few more games now.

Frankly, if Beal is this willing to sacrifice wins now to build for the future, then it means he will be willing to tank the rest of the season for a high pick. After all, if he has already given up on the season, why not go all the way? That "wrist injury" can last for the next 3 months.

Another reason I don't think this is being implemented by "Beal the GM" is due to the very real possibility that the team plays better without Beal. Beal is trying to land a max contract. The last thing he needs to demonstrate is that the team is worse with him than without him.

When the losing streak hits 10 games, it will be the case.

He already has his bag secured. He knows Tommy is giving him that contract.