2025 Draft Thread - Part 3

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Same process with the Will Riley pick. They clearly don’t have interest in the ball dominant types like Jakicionis/Traore, or the players that don’t have good size like Richardson. Also stayed away from any upperclassman types like Fleming/Clifford/Wolf. I had ZERO interest in McNeeley or Asa Newell.

They once again roll with youth, shot creation/offensive upside, and positional size. Love the overall process even if Will Riley wasn’t on my radar personally. +Ast%, +A/TO, and 90th percentile in isolation scoring.

Would love to see them go after Toohey/Penda on day 2.

I feel exactly the same. Very clear what they value.
Need to play on AND off ball
Dribble, pass, shoot
Positional size
Gym rat and high level processor
Willing to overlook single college stats for FIBA/EYBL tape

I can see why Fears, Traore, Fleming, etc weren’t high on their board.

FIBA guy Maxime Raynaud will be off the board by 40, but i think he would be the pick.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I got to say, you guys are as miserable and pessimistic as we are except you're 7 deep and counting with 19-21 y/o kids with starter potential. I don't know if so many of you are horrible talent evaluators or conditioned to disappointment so crap on the young guys as a form of self preservation or defense mechanism but snap out of it. You have needed to do this for decades and it's finally happening. Let the cream rise to the top. One more tank year and with how strong next year's class is you're almost guaranteed to get that "engine" you feel you need

The Wiz haven’t drafted a player in the first round that has gone on to make the All Star game since 2012 with Beal. Please excuse me if I have a hard time believing in this front office, new or old.

Random note, I believe the Pacers haven't drafted one since Paul George but they did trade for Halliburton. I believe the Wizards have not traded for an all star since 2005 in Caron Butler.

Washington just did. IMO.

[dobrojim]

I just realized we have two (players named) Johnson now

Needed to be careful with that

[gambitx777]

If we can say take 2 future seconds and cash to get up to 33 and get Raynaud id like to see us stay at 43 and take another guy. Weather it's roccoo or toohey as draft and stashes or getting a dog like javon small, tonje or kam Jones .

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[The Consiglieri]

ESPN's NBA draft coverage was so bad. Why is Perk up there? Bilas? They use Jay's best available, but they got Givony in the corner and he does all the work. It should be Marks and Givony up there. Why is Stephen A there? Has he watched more than 2 minutes of college ball.

They're paying those guys a mountain of cash and they're trying to extract value from rubes that think Stephen A and Jay know more than Givony.

[nate33]

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Interesting. If the Wizards were willing to make that swap, but Charlotte declined, then why didn't we make a similar deal with Utah?. Theoretically, Utah should have had a lower asking price than Charlotte since they'd only be moving down 1 spot and not 2.

Maybe Utah was asking an unreasonably high price to swap picks. Or maybe they REALLY wanted Bailey, which was why we had to talk with Charlotte in the first place.

I'm fine with Tre, but I wonder if we are still having talks with Utah? If Bailey really wants to play here, he can just sulk all month long until Utah finally relents. Ultimately they can just take a mulligan and go ahead and swap Bailey to us for Tre. Effectively, they get Tre but only have to pay him the rookie scale cost of a #6 pick instead of a #5 pick.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

I hope we can get Penda at 43.

I assume Raynaud, Fleming & Thiero will go earlier.

[nate33]

ESPN's NBA draft coverage was so bad. Why is Perk up there? Bilas? They use Jay's best available, but they got Givony in the corner and he does all the work. It should be Marks and Givony up there. Why is Stephen A there? Has he watched more than 2 minutes of college ball.

They're paying those guys a mountain of cash and they're trying to extract value from rubes that think Stephen A and Jay know more than Givony.

I'll never understand why Perkins gets any air time at all. He is horrible. Every one of his takes is wrong. Just a total moron. If I want to listen to a blowhard "hot take" guy, give me Stephen A Smith. At least Smith is a sharp, funny guy who has invented a really entertaining on-air persona.

[dobrojim]

ESPN NBA team <<<< TNT

[Ed Wood]

Interesting. If the Wizards were willing to make that swap, but Charlotte declined, then why didn't we make a similar deal with Utah?.. Or maybe they REALLY wanted Bailey, which was why we had to talk with Charlotte in the first place.

I am also at least somewhat skeptical and would be curious to get a more thorough explanation of the behind the scenes goings-on that we never will, but I think that's by far the most obvious explanation if everything else is true. Utah evidently liked Bailey enough to risk drafting him when he (or his representation) at least obliquely had asked them not to, so it seems very likely that the drive on the Wizards part to move up was in response to the concern that Utah would do what they did. The premise I'm the most skeptical of here is that Utah also had Knueppel above Bailey on their board (but hey, maybe they did). I suspect that the squandered leverage here falls on Charlotte.

[AFM]

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Interesting. If the Wizards were willing to make that swap, but Charlotte declined, then why didn't we make a similar deal with Utah?. Theoretically, Utah should have had a lower asking price than Charlotte since they'd only be moving down 1 spot and not 2.

Maybe Utah was asking an unreasonably high price to swap picks. Or maybe they REALLY wanted Bailey, which was why we had to talk with Charlotte in the first place.

I'm fine with Tre, but I wonder if we are still having talks with Utah? If Bailey really wants to play here, he can just sulk all month long until Utah finally relents. Ultimately they can just take a mulligan and go ahead and swap Bailey to us for Tre. Effectively, they get Tre but only have to pay him the rookie scale cost of a #6 pick instead of a #5 pick.

Looking at what it took to move up to get Queen, maybe the price was just way too high.

I doubt Bailey pulls a Steve Francis. He did look extremely unhappy though.

[Dat2U]

Riley gives Johnny Davis vibes, minus the defense

Just say you never watched the kid. The only similarity is the skin color & playing in the big ten.

My bad, they also both shot 32% from 3 in college

Riley is 4 inches taller & a freshman and a full year younger.

I'd even argue his handle looks betrer than JD's ever did. JD was pretty much a straight line slasher, Riley already shows an advanced handle capable of chaining together mutliple moves.

Davis shot .306 his sophomore season on 3.9 attempts. He shot .389 on only 1.2 attempts his frosh season.

Riley shot .325 on 4.1 attempts so he shot more volume on a higher percentage as a frosh than Davis did as a Soph.

[Dat2U]

ESPN's NBA draft coverage was so bad. Why is Perk up there? Bilas? They use Jay's best available, but they got Givony in the corner and he does all the work. It should be Marks and Givony up there. Why is Stephen A there? Has he watched more than 2 minutes of college ball.

They're paying those guys a mountain of cash and they're trying to extract value from rubes that think Stephen A and Jay know more than Givony.

I'll never understand why Perkins gets any air time at all. He is horrible. Every one of his takes is wrong. Just a total moron. If I want to listed to a blowhard "hot take" guy, give me Stephen A Smith. At least Smith is a sharp, funny guy who has invented a really entertaining on-air persona.

Perkins is probably worst on TV than he was as the starting C for OKC and that's saying something.

I've long thought OKC would have been had a champiohship if they didn't waste Durant & Russ's prime, playing 4 vs 5 with arguably the worst offensive C in NBA history.

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Interesting. If the Wizards were willing to make that swap, but Charlotte declined, then why didn't we make a similar deal with Utah?. Theoretically, Utah should have had a lower asking price than Charlotte since they'd only be moving down 1 spot and not 2.

Maybe Utah was asking an unreasonably high price to swap picks. Or maybe they REALLY wanted Bailey, which was why we had to talk with Charlotte in the first place.

I'm fine with Tre, but I wonder if we are still having talks with Utah? If Bailey really wants to play here, he can just sulk all month long until Utah finally relents. Ultimately they can just take a mulligan and go ahead and swap Bailey to us for Tre. Effectively, they get Tre but only have to pay him the rookie scale cost of a #6 pick instead of a #5 pick.

I think Utah probably really wanted Ace. And knowing Danny Ainge he probably wanted an arm and a leg to trade up. I'd also say that Tre being available probably factored into the thinking. Tre fits well with what we're doing.

[Dat2U]

Penda, Markovic & Rayaud are my top 3 in that order.

Also cool with Broome & Zikarsky.

[Ed Wood]

Look I also find it a little strange that Johnny Davis and Greg Gard mutually decided to pay tribute to Bo Ryan's legacy that Wisconsin players should be as hard to watch in the NBA as they were in college but you have to admit it was very generous of them.

[DCZards]

If getting Ace meant trading 6 & 18 to Charlotte, then I think the Zards made out very well by not making that trade and drafting Tre and Riley instead.

[nate33]

Continued here

[montestewart]

I just realized we have two (players named) Johnson now

Needed to be careful with that

And they both develop into 3 pt shooting stars and are advertised as The Trey J Show