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Official Trade Thread Part XLVI

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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1981 » by gambitx777 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 3:57 pm

Rafael122 wrote:Reading on reddit, apparently if we trade Kuzma and JV for Khris and Pat, it gets the Bucks under the 2nd apron. I would assume Dawkins/Winger will ask for the '31 pick, perhaps top 1 protected or something. There's no way I would accept 2nd round picks.
I've been on the taking pat from the bucks for weeks now. Before it was on the wire.

Here is how I would structure this.

We take pat for what ever pick swaps they wanna add us on to

They can add us to pick swaps they already have going out. Such as so and so team has rights to swap picks and if that doesn't cover or the wizards are still able to swap with the buck after the first swap the wizards can still then swap with the bucks pick.

Then you do Kuz and JV for Middleton, Tyler Smith, the rights to Hugo besson, 2031 first and second.

Looks at it as a whole it's massive cap, and upgrades for the bucks

The wizanger good value for Kuz and can attempt to sell Middleton to someone else.

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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1982 » by Frichuela » Tue Feb 4, 2025 4:32 pm

One of the 3 1st rounders Phoenix acquired in the Utah trade must be in play here...

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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1983 » by Frichuela » Tue Feb 4, 2025 4:35 pm

I mean....good job praise to Dawkins if he would manage to:

A) Trade Kuz to the Bucks for a 2031 1st.
B) Trade Jonas+Bey to the Suns for another 1st.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1984 » by AFM » Tue Feb 4, 2025 5:11 pm

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2025/02/wizards-bucks-have-discussed-middleton-kuzma.html

Swapping Middleton for Kuzma would allow the Bucks to move below the second tax apron, Robbins and Aldridge outline, saving them money and generating more roster flexibility while also allowing them to avoid having their 2032 first-round pick become “frozen” at season’s end.

However, Kuzma is in the midst of the worst season of his career and The Athletic’s duo says the Wizards would be seeking draft capital in order to acquire Middleton, who has battled injuries in recent years.

A straight-up swap of the two players also wouldn’t quite be possible due to the difference in their salaries, so for matching purposes, the Wizards would have to send out a second player along with Kuzma ($23.5MM cap hit; $26.5MM apron hit) in order to take back Middleton ($31.7MM cap hit; $34MM apron hit).


Here’s more on the Wizards:

Washington is interested in using a portion of its mid-level exception to take on an unwanted contract in order to add more future draft assets, league sources tell Robbins and Aldridge. The club is operating nearly $12MM below the tax line and has its full MLE ($12.8MM) still on hand.
Malcolm Brogdon, Marvin Bagley III, and Richaun Holmes are among the other players on expiring or pseudo-expiring contracts whom the Wizards are willing to move, according to The Athletic. Bagley and Holmes aren’t positive assets and Brogdon’s trade value probably isn’t better than neutral, but their expiring money could be useful to a team looking to move off a multiyear contract.
None of the rival teams that have spoken to The Athletic’s duo have heard anything about Jordan Poole being available on the trade market. Poole’s sizable contract remains a potential impediment, but the Wizards are also happy about how he’s performed and bought into the team’s youth movement this season, Robbins and Aldridge explain.
While Corey Kispert isn’t off the table in trade talks, the poison pill provision will make any deal more challenging and the Wizards have genuine interest in keeping the fourth-year sharpshooter around through their rebuild, league sources tell The Athletic.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1985 » by doclinkin » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:02 pm

Rafael122 wrote:Reading on reddit, apparently if we trade Kuzma and JV for Khris and Pat, it gets the Bucks under the 2nd apron. I would assume Dawkins/Winger will ask for the '31 pick, perhaps top 1 protected or something. There's no way I would accept 2nd round picks.


Bucks don't even have 2nd round picks to give until 2031 or after. Which is also the earliest likely 1st round pick they can trade. They are all in on Win Now. Which could make those future 1sts truly valuable. I'd expect they'd ask for high protections on '31.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1986 » by Frichuela » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:24 pm

doclinkin wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:Reading on reddit, apparently if we trade Kuzma and JV for Khris and Pat, it gets the Bucks under the 2nd apron. I would assume Dawkins/Winger will ask for the '31 pick, perhaps top 1 protected or something. There's no way I would accept 2nd round picks.


Bucks don't even have 2nd round picks to give until 2031 or after. Which is also the earliest likely 1st round pick they can trade. They are all in on Win Now. Which could make those future 1sts truly valuable. I'd expect they'd ask for high protections on '31.


Yep. That's possibly the main negotiating item.

According to this rumor: "The Milwaukee Bucks are ‘trying like hell to get a deal done’ for Kyle Kuzma"

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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1987 » by gambitx777 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:47 pm

Man if we can pull this off lol I think we will all be happy to be ride of Kuz.

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Post#1988 » by closg00 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:28 pm

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Post#1989 » by gambitx777 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:36 pm

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Weird trade tbh

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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1990 » by montestewart » Tue Feb 4, 2025 9:32 pm

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