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doclinkin wrote:Nice image of Seraphin and N'Diaye yammering in french together.
Cimberio Varese targets Hamady Ndiaye and Dwayne Collins
Serie A
Both players were selected in 2010 NBA draft
Cimberio Varese, lost Josh Heytvelt who will be staying in Roma, is seeking the market for starting big man for the coming season.
Two are the names that the Italian management is targeting, both selected in the 2010 NBA draft: Hamady Ndiaye and Dwayne Collins.
Ndiaye, who graduated at Rutgers, was selected by Wizards with the 56th overall after a senior year in which he averaged 9.4ppg, 7.1rpg and 4.5bpg.
Dwayne Collins spent his college career at Miami and was selected by Suns with the 60th overall. In his senior year Collins averaged 12ppg, 7.8rpg and 1.1bpg.
The problem with Collins is that the player is still undecided on whether to start his career in Europe or to wait the Phoenix Suns' training camp in October trying to get a contract for NBA.
doclinkin wrote:I do sorta like the idea of N'Diaye playing overseas. Not so sure about if the Italian Serie A squad is the best place for him. You hear bassackwards things about teams failing to pay their players etc. And this squad is 2nd tier at best, with players leaving left and right.
They are desperate for size though so he'd see playing time. As a guy who only touched a basketball recently, with only 5 years in the game, it would be nice for him to get a chance to learn on the floor. Tougher to keep track of him in Europe as opposed to the DLeague, and occasionally tough to extricate a Europlayer from a contract once he's seasoned. Plus we lose the French Connection between N'Diaye and Big Kev.
But at least you don't start the timer on his contract until you decide he'd be of real use. So I dunno.
Moot point anyway for now, it looks like.
Ruzious wrote:doclinkin wrote:I do sorta like the idea of N'Diaye playing overseas. Not so sure about if the Italian Serie A squad is the best place for him. You hear bassackwards things about teams failing to pay their players etc. And this squad is 2nd tier at best, with players leaving left and right.
They are desperate for size though so he'd see playing time. As a guy who only touched a basketball recently, with only 5 years in the game, it would be nice for him to get a chance to learn on the floor. Tougher to keep track of him in Europe as opposed to the DLeague, and occasionally tough to extricate a Europlayer from a contract once he's seasoned. Plus we lose the French Connection between N'Diaye and Big Kev.
But at least you don't start the timer on his contract until you decide he'd be of real use. So I dunno.
Moot point anyway for now, it looks like.
Normally, I'd like him to go the DLeague - so they can monitor him, but I've heard the quality of coaching is generally mediocre to bad there - simply because the better American coaches are not interested in those jobs. The pay and benefits don't come close to what colleges can give. It seems there's still a lot more the NBA could do to make the DLeague bigger and better.
hands11 wrote:Ruzious wrote:Normally, I'd like him to go the DLeague - so they can monitor him, but I've heard the quality of coaching is generally mediocre to bad there - simply because the better American coaches are not interested in those jobs. The pay and benefits don't come close to what colleges can give. It seems there's still a lot more the NBA could do to make the DLeague bigger and better.
How often do they send assistants like Sam down there to work with them.
hands11 wrote:Ruzious wrote:doclinkin wrote:I do sorta like the idea of N'Diaye playing overseas. Not so sure about if the Italian Serie A squad is the best place for him. You hear bassackwards things about teams failing to pay their players etc. And this squad is 2nd tier at best, with players leaving left and right.
They are desperate for size though so he'd see playing time. As a guy who only touched a basketball recently, with only 5 years in the game, it would be nice for him to get a chance to learn on the floor. Tougher to keep track of him in Europe as opposed to the DLeague, and occasionally tough to extricate a Europlayer from a contract once he's seasoned. Plus we lose the French Connection between N'Diaye and Big Kev.
But at least you don't start the timer on his contract until you decide he'd be of real use. So I dunno.
Moot point anyway for now, it looks like.
Normally, I'd like him to go the DLeague - so they can monitor him, but I've heard the quality of coaching is generally mediocre to bad there - simply because the better American coaches are not interested in those jobs. The pay and benefits don't come close to what colleges can give. It seems there's still a lot more the NBA could do to make the DLeague bigger and better.
How often do they send assistants like Sam down there to work with them.
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Rafael122 wrote:Didn't the Spurs buy a d-league team? I believe they bought the Austin Toros. Teddy could do the same thing here, maybe move the team ti Richmond or something.
nate33 wrote:That's an incredibly bad move by EG. Of what advantage to Washington is it to sign N'Diaye to a one-year contract? Chances are, he'll suck and we will have wasted money. And in the unlikely scenario that he surprises to the upside, we won't have him locked into a long-term deal.
EG should hold firm: a 3-year vet minimum contract with a team option in Year 3 (and a TO in Year 2 if the CBA allows it), or let him play overseas (with the Wizards retaining his draft rights). I think sending him overseas is the best option.
nate33 wrote:That's an incredibly bad move by EG. Of what advantage to Washington is it to sign N'Diaye to a one-year contract? Chances are, he'll suck and we will have wasted money. And in the unlikely scenario that he surprises to the upside, we won't have him locked into a long-term deal.
EG should hold firm: a 3-year vet minimum contract with a team option in Year 3 (and a TO in Year 2 if the CBA allows it), or let him play overseas (with the Wizards retaining his draft rights). I think sending him overseas is the best option.
Ruzious wrote:You're really that outraged that they didn't manipulate the contract of the 58th pick in the draft? I agree that a 1 year contract is probably not the best move for the Wiz, but let's use a little perspective.
In any event, he'll probably spend the year in the D League, and that might be more beneficial for his NBA prospects than playing overseas. And in any event part 2, there's no way... I'd give him a guaranteed 3 year deal at any price right now.
Ruzious wrote:nate33 wrote:That's an incredibly bad move by EG. Of what advantage to Washington is it to sign N'Diaye to a one-year contract? Chances are, he'll suck and we will have wasted money. And in the unlikely scenario that he surprises to the upside, we won't have him locked into a long-term deal.
EG should hold firm: a 3-year vet minimum contract with a team option in Year 3 (and a TO in Year 2 if the CBA allows it), or let him play overseas (with the Wizards retaining his draft rights). I think sending him overseas is the best option.
You're really that outraged that they didn't manipulate the contract of the 58th pick in the draft? I agree that a 1 year contract is probably not the best move for the Wiz, but let's use a little perspective.
In any event, he'll probably spend the year in the D League, and that might be more beneficial for his NBA prospects than playing overseas. And in any event part 2, there's no way... I'd give him a guaranteed 3 year deal at any price right now.
Dat2U wrote:Yeah, its a non-issue. N'Diaye isn't an NBA talent. I'd wince a little bit if they gave him a 3 year deal. That would be throwing away money. He'll probably end up in the D League, but not under Washington's control. I'd really be surprised if he was able to make our roster or any NBA roster for that matter.
