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Re: Arenas Traded for Rashard Lewis 

Post#21 » by VA_story » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:30 pm

Arenas had to be moved.. Even tho Rashard Lewis is an overpaid bum (2nd highest paid player in the league). And can you imagine Blatche & Lewis on the floor together? They just may be the weakest forward combination in the league smh. But with Arenas gone, Nick better get more playing time, not Kirk. And also..Lewis only averages about 5 rebs. We better not even think about putting him at PF!
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Post#22 » by nate33 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:30 pm

closg00 wrote:...and you will certainly see a different version of Gilbert once he hits Orlando, he was holding-back.

Probably true, but irrelevant as far as the trade goes. The fact is, Arenas was not the same player he once was, and he wasn't going to become that player again as long as he remained in a Wizards uniform. He had lost his joy for the game.

I hope he gets it back in Orlando. I'll be rooting for him.
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Post#23 » by mhd » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:32 pm

Honestly, the only thing I'm caring about with Wall injured, is Young starting. He might average 25 ppg now.
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Post#24 » by nate33 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:32 pm

VA_story wrote: But with Arenas gone, Nick better get more playing time, not Kirk.

Young will get 32+ minutes a game. It's a 3-guard rotation of Wall, Hinrich and Young. Basically, the role of Hinrich and Young will be exactly the same as it has been for the last few weeks (while Wall was out).
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Re: Arenas Traded for Rashard Lewis 

Post#25 » by sashae » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:33 pm

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Post#26 » by Wizards2Lottery » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:34 pm

Side note, but do we bring back Lestor Hudson and what do we do with the front court clutter?
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Re: Arenas Traded for Rashard Lewis 

Post#27 » by penbeast0 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:35 pm

I think you have to try Lewis at SF here. I've never understood why the teams likes to bring in Seraphim/Booker together since neither one brings much offensively and both are hopefully developing in to physical banger types; I'd try Lewis with either a Seraphim/Blatche pairing or a McGee/Booker pairing. Assuming they are going to leave Hinrich starting next to either Wall or NIck Young, it will give Lewis a chance to be a 1st/2nd option as a 3 and we can see what he has to bring to the table. If he has to be a PF, he won't be much use here.
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Post#28 » by mhd » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:35 pm

nate33 wrote:
VA_story wrote: But with Arenas gone, Nick better get more playing time, not Kirk.

Young will get 32+ minutes a game. It's a 3-guard rotation of Wall, Hinrich and Young. Basically, the role of Hinrich and Young will be exactly the same as it has been for the last few weeks (while Wall was out).


Nick might have to play 40 mpg because he's the only player on the team right who can score and create his own shot. Lewis can't do that.
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Re: Arenas Traded for Rashard Lewis 

Post#29 » by WizarDynasty » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:36 pm

mhd wrote:
WizarDynasty wrote:shard is a huge upgrade over thornton. Wall is basically a younger gilbert arenas. I would have really loved if grunfeld could have pulled earl clark out of the deal. We would have been grooming our small forward of the future. But overall, arenas three ball was his primary asset and we don't lose that with rashard. at least we won't get abused in the post by small forward anymore and he will make people pay for doubling in the post which is what we were looking for with mike miller. It would have been nice to get a young prospect to groom in the mold of rashard since rashard is pretty old 30. earl clark has pretty much the same game ..and if he studied behind lewis it would have boosted EG and fit with leonsis longterm plans.



Earl Clark sucks. If he didn't, then Phoenix would have picked up his rookie option. He couldn't crack their rotation. If he didn't suck, then Phoenix would not have signed Childress, extended Dudley, and traded for Hedo. He's filler and will likely be out of the league after this year (his last because the Suns didn't pick up his option).

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Post#30 » by closg00 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:40 pm

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closg00 wrote:...and you will certainly see a different version of Gilbert once he hits Orlando, he was holding-back.

Probably true, but irrelevant as far as the trade goes. The fact is, Arenas was not the same player he once was, and he wasn't going to become that player again as long as he remained in a Wizards uniform. He had lost his joy for the game.

I hope he gets it back in Orlando. I'll be rooting for him.


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Post#31 » by JWizmentality » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:41 pm

Arenas had to be moved but wtf?? Not even a 2nd rounder?
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Post#32 » by AceDegenerate » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:41 pm

nate33 wrote:
closg00 wrote:...and you will certainly see a different version of Gilbert once he hits Orlando, he was holding-back.

Probably true, but irrelevant as far as the trade goes. The fact is, Arenas was not the same player he once was, and he wasn't going to become that player again as long as he remained in a Wizards uniform. He had lost his joy for the game.

I hope he gets it back in Orlando. I'll be rooting for him.


You keep saying this, but it's not a fair assessment of the situation. If things had been handled differently, I think Gil very easily could have been a different player here.

Given the way things were handled, you are correct but to assume it was the only way is pretty naive.
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Post#33 » by closg00 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:43 pm

Wizards2Lottery wrote:Side note, but do we bring back Lestor Hudson and what do we do with the front court clutter?


The logical move would be to cut Martin and do a couple of 10-day call-ups. Aaron Miles would be the logical choice since he's been with us before.
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Post#34 » by Ruzious » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:46 pm

I think the key thing in the trade that most of us didn't realize until today (at least I didn't) is that only 10 mil of Lewis' 22.7 mil may be guaranteed for 2012/2013 - saving the Wiz up to 12 mil that season compared to what they would have had to pay Gil - not to mention the 22 or so mil in 2013/2014 that Gil is due. That makes this a smart move by the Wiz. It would have been better for the Wiz to trade for Carter, but as some of us said for a long time - Orlando would had to have been nuts to do that.

Most importantly, everyone can finally move forward. Good luck to Arenas. It'll be interesting to see how he fits there - now that he does have a great big man to play with.
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Post#35 » by Wizards2Lottery » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:49 pm

I am happy that we finally get to see Young play a lot of minutes.

Wall needs to get back on the court. I am sad but it is nice to have closure.

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Post#36 » by no D in Hibachi » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:51 pm

Can we make it a Wiz board rule to refer to Lewis as 'Shart' until he proves he worthy of a more dignified name?
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Post#37 » by tontoz » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:51 pm

I just hope Flip doesn't play Rashard 35 minutes per game and leave Booker rotting on the bench in a rebuilding year.
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Post#38 » by closg00 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:51 pm

Ruzious wrote:I think the key thing in the trade that most of us didn't realize until today (at least I didn't) is that only 10 mil of Lewis' 22.7 mil may be guaranteed for 2012/2013 - saving the Wiz up to 12 mil that season compared to what they would have had to pay Gil - not to mention the 22 or so mil in 2013/2014 that Gil is due. That makes this a smart move by the Wiz. It would have been better for the Wiz to trade for Carter, but as some of us said for a long time - Orlando would had to have been nuts to do that.

Most importantly, everyone can finally move forward. Good luck to Arenas. It'll be interesting to see how he fits there - now that he does have a great big man to play with.


I read on the Magic board that Gil was going to give the Magic a deal by opting-out after next year and re-signing at a reasonable rate, costing the Magic much less. I would bet that this will be true.
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Re: Arenas Traded for Rashard Lewis 

Post#39 » by dobrojim » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:52 pm

as I previously said, Lewis' contract I felt was among the absolute worst in the league
and one must view the reality that even though I was glad we re-signed Gil at the
time, his contract became another really bad one. But I was at least emotionally
into Gil. Not feeling the love for Rashard. Nothing personal, just not there.

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