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Re: Wizards open to trading Trevor Booker for veteran PG??? 

Post#21 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:02 pm

Nivek wrote:There's no need to be in a perpetual tank. Don't even need top 3 picks to get good players. In nearly every draft, good players go later. Odds are better at the top, but the draft is inefficient. A smart team could exploit that to its benefit.


I agree, but I think adding a legitimate top three pick this year could put the Wizards over the top for years to come especially if the player has superstar qualities. If the Wizards can land a superstar caliber player within the top three or even a player just outside of the lottery who's very efficient, I think the Wizards are good going into the 2013-2014 season.
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Re: Wizards open to trading Trevor Booker for veteran PG??? 

Post#22 » by MikeTheKid » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:12 pm

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MikeTheKid wrote:Is this for real??? Just bring back Mack, Fire EG and tank til 2014


I mean how many top three picks does a team really need before they turn things around? This year's top pick, a healthy Wall, Beal and no significant injuries should do the trick going into the 2013-2014 season.


What if Wall needs microfracture surgery, what then. He'll perpetually lose a step even when he's healthy
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Post#23 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:32 pm

Get him healthy enough to play and trade Wall for a veteran PG and a first.

At this point trade him to the Kings for Isaiah Thomas and the Kings' lotto pick. Probably can't get that now, however.
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Re: Wizards open to trading Trevor Booker for veteran PG??? 

Post#24 » by MikeTheKid » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:37 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Get him healthy enough to play and trade Wall for a veteran PG and a first.

At this point trade him to the Kings for Isaiah Thomas and the Kings' lotto pick. Probably can't get that now, however.


Honestly I wouldn't mind taking a look at Jimmer!!!
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Post#25 » by truwizfan4evr » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:11 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Get him healthy enough to play and trade Wall for a veteran PG and a first.

At this point trade him to the Kings for Isaiah Thomas and the Kings' lotto pick. Probably can't get that now, however.

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Re: Wizards open to trading Trevor Booker for veteran PG??? 

Post#26 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:14 am

MikeTheKid wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Get him healthy enough to play and trade Wall for a veteran PG and a first.

At this point trade him to the Kings for Isaiah Thomas and the Kings' lotto pick. Probably can't get that now, however.


Honestly I wouldn't mind taking a look at Jimmer!!!


Jimmer and a pick is just as good.
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Post#27 » by hands11 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:08 am

AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:From NBA.com's David Aldridge:

The Wizards are in desperate need of a point guard until John Wall comes back and are willing to move one of their bigs for a veteran point, league sources say. But will there be much interest in the likes of Trevor Booker (who hasn't played in three weeks since suffering a knee injury)? With the worst record in the league at the quarter pole, Washington is not at all interested in dealing its 2013, first-round and likely top-three pick.



Does this make any sense? The Wizards aren't going places why trade away a potentially valuable piece for A.J. Price II? This is pretty shocking news if it's true.


I call BS. This sounds more like marketing then an actual plan. This is what they feel they need to do to tell the fans they are not sitting on their hands while they are sitting on their hands. Free press after they got stomped in Miami.

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Post#28 » by closg00 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:16 am

One would hope that Jimmer would progress and develop like his next best comparison, J.J. Redick, but who knows if that will happen. SAC strikes me as Wizards-like in that players don't seem to develop there.
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Post#29 » by hands11 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:25 am

MikeTheKid wrote:
AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:
MikeTheKid wrote:Is this for real??? Just bring back Mack, Fire EG and tank til 2014


I mean how many top three picks does a team really need before they turn things around? This year's top pick, a healthy Wall, Beal and no significant injuries should do the trick going into the 2013-2014 season.


What if Wall needs microfracture surgery, what then. He'll perpetually lose a step even when he's healthy


One never knows until it happens.
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Post#30 » by hands11 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:26 am

MikeTheKid wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Get him healthy enough to play and trade Wall for a veteran PG and a first.

At this point trade him to the Kings for Isaiah Thomas and the Kings' lotto pick. Probably can't get that now, however.


Honestly I wouldn't mind taking a look at Jimmer!!!


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Post#31 » by closg00 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:28 am

AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:From NBA.com's David Aldridge:

The Wizards are in desperate need of a point guard until John Wall comes back and are willing to move one of their bigs for a veteran point, league sources say. But will there be much interest in the likes of Trevor Booker (who hasn't played in three weeks since suffering a knee injury)? With the worst record in the league at the quarter pole, Washington is not at all interested in dealing its 2013, first-round and likely top-three pick.



Does this make any sense? The Wizards aren't going places why trade away a potentially valuable piece for A.J. Price II? This is pretty shocking news if it's true.


This completely has the ring of truth to it. %100. Other teams must laugh when we offer Vesely.
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Re: Wizards open to trading Trevor Booker for veteran PG??? 

Post#32 » by sashae » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:31 am

hands11 wrote:You people are to funny. Just sit back and see what happens. Don't get caught up in marketing spin. What we do know is that they are increasing Walls work load and the report from the doctor was that he was making progress. Let see what comes of that. He never even pulled up lame to begin with. They shut him down preemptively. He was running around up until then. He was just feeling discomfort. You'll act like he tore an ACL or something.


Did you even read the interview with Wall? He hurt his leg so badly that it was painful to *bend* it. That's not pre-emptive, that's responsive.
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Post#33 » by jivelikenice » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:16 am

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AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:From NBA.com's David Aldridge:

The Wizards are in desperate need of a point guard until John Wall comes back and are willing to move one of their bigs for a veteran point, league sources say. But will there be much interest in the likes of Trevor Booker (who hasn't played in three weeks since suffering a knee injury)? With the worst record in the league at the quarter pole, Washington is not at all interested in dealing its 2013, first-round and likely top-three pick.



Does this make any sense? The Wizards aren't going places why trade away a potentially valuable piece for A.J. Price II? This is pretty shocking news if it's true.

would be very not smart to trade for a PG this season because Wall is out. its a tanking season already. Why risk making the team worst by throwing away youthful rebuilding blocks for old vet that likely wont do much ether?
Especially when it means giving up a lotto pick to do so.


Disagree strongly. We can't keep wasting seasons not properly developing talent. A vet pg will help the young guys like Beal and Seraphin develop...we're gonna be bad regardless and will end up picking top 4, but development of the players on the roster is just as important as getting a high lotto pick. If Booker is the cost to get someone, do it...I was very unimpressed by him this season and he hasn't shown an ability to stay healthy.
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Post#34 » by MF23 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:46 am

Trade Booker for Fredette. I'm being serious.
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Post#35 » by dangermouse » Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:04 am

I'd do Booker for Fredette.

Booker or Jan are the only guys I would trade for a PG right now, and Fredette is the only kind of PG i would trade for, young and still on their rookie deal.

There is no minutes for Booker AND Jan anyway.

I dont want a veteran that could possibly make us better. Not when we are tanking (again). If we were going to make a trade like that, it should have happened months ago.
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Re: Wizards open to trading Trevor Booker for veteran PG??? 

Post#36 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:33 am

dangermouse wrote:I'd do Booker for Fredette.

Booker or Jan are the only guys I would trade for a PG right now, and Fredette is the only kind of PG i would trade for, young and still on their rookie deal.

There is no minutes for Booker AND Jan anyway.

I dont want a veteran that could possibly make us better. Not when we are tanking (again). If we were going to make a trade like that, it should have happened months ago.


I'm not getting the Jimmer Fredette thing. He's not a real PG, he's not a high assist guy, how is he the answer at PG?
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Re: Wizards open to trading Trevor Booker for veteran PG??? 

Post#37 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:42 am

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Knighthonor wrote:
AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:From NBA.com's David Aldridge:

The Wizards are in desperate need of a point guard until John Wall comes back and are willing to move one of their bigs for a veteran point, league sources say. But will there be much interest in the likes of Trevor Booker (who hasn't played in three weeks since suffering a knee injury)? With the worst record in the league at the quarter pole, Washington is not at all interested in dealing its 2013, first-round and likely top-three pick.



Does this make any sense? The Wizards aren't going places why trade away a potentially valuable piece for A.J. Price II? This is pretty shocking news if it's true.

would be very not smart to trade for a PG this season because Wall is out. its a tanking season already. Why risk making the team worst by throwing away youthful rebuilding blocks for old vet that likely wont do much ether?
Especially when it means giving up a lotto pick to do so.


Disagree strongly. We can't keep wasting seasons not properly developing talent. A vet pg will help the young guys like Beal and Seraphin develop...we're gonna be bad regardless and will end up picking top 4, but development of the players on the roster is just as important as getting a high lotto pick. If Booker is the cost to get someone, do it...I was very unimpressed by him this season and he hasn't shown an ability to stay healthy.



That's a good point. I'm open to trading Booker, but I don't know I ike the idea of an even swap of young for old at a position that will inevitably see that player relegated to backup PG when instead, Booker could be used in a package deal to grab a pick or player that can fill a starter role for years. If they were to swap player for player I think it'd have to be for Jose Calderon.
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Post#38 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:44 am

MF23 wrote:Trade Booker for Fredette. I'm being serious.


If you guys are looking for a SG to replace Crawford then say so, because Fredette's clearly not the answer at PG.
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Re: Wizards open to trading Trevor Booker for veteran PG??? 

Post#39 » by payitforward » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:57 pm

First off, being injured (again) and not recovering quickly means Trevor Booker has no trade value.

Secondly, if you think he's going to be healthy again then you wouldn't trade him, as when healthy he's one of our only *reliably* good-and-young players.

Finally, we don't need a "veteran point guard"; we need a competent GM. In fact, if we were to acquire a point guard I'd a lot rather it be a rookie than a veteran.
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Re: Wizards open to trading Trevor Booker for veteran PG??? 

Post#40 » by montestewart » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:12 pm

payitforward wrote:First off, being injured (again) and not recovering quickly means Trevor Booker has no trade value.

Secondly, if you think he's going to be healthy again then you wouldn't trade him, as when healthy he's one of our only *reliably* good-and-young players.

Finally, we don't need a "veteran point guard"; we need a competent GM. In fact, if we were to acquire a point guard I'd a lot rather it be a rookie than a veteran.

Prior to the season, I was in favor of acquiring by trade or FA a veteran backup PG or combo 3G, that could adequately run the 2nd team or fill in for Wall in a pinch (or if he's injured). Ideally, someone with a good shot that could play off the ball. The rest of Ridnour's contract seemed appealing in that regard (though that didn't exclude Mack coming back too). With the season playing out as it has, Mack or a similar young PG seems the logical choice. Mack's not gifted, but he plays in control.

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