Afraid John Wall may be the next victim?

[pancakes3]

*shrug*... maybe?

[sfam]

With the way Wall plays, I'm starting to really really think that Wall may fall victim to a vicious injury similar to Rose's, Rondo's, etc...

Does anyone else feel this way when watching Wall play?

No

What can he do to improve his chances of not getting injured?

Retire

Finally, do you think Wall will sustain this kind of play in the future?

Yes

[Nivek]

You guys are missing the genius-level insight from MellowRose. Sometimes basketball players get hurt when they play basketball. Mind = blown. NBA teams should probably just start keeping their best players on the bench all the time to protect them from injury. That's probably not good enough. Maybe the league should just change the rules of the game and the league could just be free throw shooting. That'll save a lot of wear and tear on the players.

[MellowRose]

You guys are missing the genius-level insight from MellowRose. Sometimes basketball players get hurt when they play basketball. Mind = blown. NBA teams should probably just start keeping their best players on the bench all the time to protect them from injury. That's probably not good enough. Maybe the league should just change the rules of the game and the league could just be free throw shooting. That'll save a lot of wear and tear on the players.

Only because you have a quote by Malcolm Gladwell in your sig, will I not bash you too harshly.

Another genius insight by MellowRose: Maybe he should change his style of play just a little, in order to avoid future injuries that could potentially end his career. Rose and Wall have the same style of play, and because Rose continued with the aggressive, "crazy" driving to the hoop, he had a career changing injury. The same may happen to Wall unless if he changes.

Mind = Blown

[pancakes3]

HAH. That first line sounded like it was from... Yoda as opposed to YODA.

As for posturing armchair analysis, I think there's a subtle difference to the way Wall and Rose/Westbrook attack the basket. If wall has the lane, he goes in for the jam. If he doesn't, he doesn't force the issue to draw contact as much as the other two. He's much more likely to fade away and try to either bank it off the glass or go for an ill-advised, too-late cross-court pass. Of course I have no evidence to back this up. Just a thought on a lazy Sunday.

[MellowRose]

HAH. That first line sounded like it was from... Yoda as opposed to YODA.

What's the difference?

[Induveca]

It's a legitimate concern. Rose however had these crazy/powerful hop steps right into a rapid jump.

The shock of both moves in succession over years of play, combined with weightlifting can certainly speed a tendon rupture. Overuse/excessive jarring cause micro-tears which eventually leads to a full tear.

I say this as someone who has experienced a full rupture myself.

Wall, from my point of view is much more fluid, and doesn't have the intense tendon jarring landings such as Rose/Shumpert.

Does my insight mean Wall's tendons won't snap in half? I have no clue. Everyone can suffer a tendon injury in sport.

But I have noticed the "jump step"/change of direction seems to be a major culprit in these injuries as of late.

[MellowRose]

As for posturing armchair analysis, I think there's a subtle difference to the way Wall and Rose/Westbrook attack the basket. If wall has the lane, he goes in for the jam. If he doesn't, he doesn't force the issue to draw contact as much as the other two. He's much more likely to fade away and try to either bank it off the glass or go for an ill-advised, too-late cross-court pass. Of course I have no evidence to back this up. Just a thought on a lazy Sunday.

Is this not what is separating Wall from the "superstar" level of Rose and Westbrook? If you don't suggest him force the issue, what should he be doing to improve?

More contact = More fouls = More points.

[MellowRose]

It's a legitimate concern. Rose however had these crazy/powerful hop steps right into a rapid jump.

The shock of both moves in succession over years of play, combined with weightlifting can certainly speed a tendon rupture. Overuse/excessive jarring cause micro-tears which eventually leads to a full tear.

I say this as someone who has experienced a full rupture myself.

Wall, from my point of view is much more fluid, and doesn't have the intense tendon jarring landings such as Rose/Shumpert.

Does my insight mean Wall's tendons won't snap in half? I have no clue. Everyone can suffer a tendon injury in sport.

But I have noticed the "jump step"/change of direction seems to be a major culprit in these injuries as of late.

Great points, especially the last one. I'm gonna look closer when Wall goes into the lane and the way he lands.

[Ruzious]

You guys are missing the genius-level insight from MellowRose. Sometimes basketball players get hurt when they play basketball. Mind = blown. NBA teams should probably just start keeping their best players on the bench all the time to protect them from injury. That's probably not good enough. Maybe the league should just change the rules of the game and the league could just be free throw shooting. That'll save a lot of wear and tear on the players.

I had him pegged as a blithering idiot who doesn't understand he's worn out his welcome, but I'll defer to your wisdom on this.

[MellowRose]

You guys are missing the genius-level insight from MellowRose. Sometimes basketball players get hurt when they play basketball. Mind = blown. NBA teams should probably just start keeping their best players on the bench all the time to protect them from injury. That's probably not good enough. Maybe the league should just change the rules of the game and the league could just be free throw shooting. That'll save a lot of wear and tear on the players.

I had him pegged as a blithering idiot who doesn't understand he's worn out his welcome, but I'll defer to your wisdom on this.

Ithica
Bobcats
Throw
Lefty

When will you stop convincing me that all of your 22236 posts are plain annoying and stupid?

And I don't need you to roll out your welcome mat for me.

[hands11]

As for posturing armchair analysis, I think there's a subtle difference to the way Wall and Rose/Westbrook attack the basket. If wall has the lane, he goes in for the jam. If he doesn't, he doesn't force the issue to draw contact as much as the other two. He's much more likely to fade away and try to either bank it off the glass or go for an ill-advised, too-late cross-court pass. Of course I have no evidence to back this up. Just a thought on a lazy Sunday.

Is this not what is separating Wall from the "superstar" level of Rose and Westbrook? If you don't suggest him force the issue, what should he be doing to improve?

More contact = More fouls = More points.

Wall is getting more fouls but he is getting it on the drive around the top more. When player try to jam him, he is bouncing off the contact with his arms flailing. He is both initiating it more and right afterward, he is giving into the contact so the refs see it.

That is a different way to getting fouled vs driving the lane and getting clobbered.

Personally, I see Wall taking less of a pounding now then he used to. Even when he falls past the basket, he rolls better.

Now Beal, he needs to learn how to avoid landing in strange ways. He got creamed this year. If you want to worry about someone, worry about Beal. But he will figure it out just like Wall has. Besides, Beal should be shooting more from outside and floaters.

[pancakes3]

As for posturing armchair analysis, I think there's a subtle difference to the way Wall and Rose/Westbrook attack the basket. If wall has the lane, he goes in for the jam. If he doesn't, he doesn't force the issue to draw contact as much as the other two. He's much more likely to fade away and try to either bank it off the glass or go for an ill-advised, too-late cross-court pass. Of course I have no evidence to back this up. Just a thought on a lazy Sunday.

Is this not what is separating Wall from the "superstar" level of Rose and Westbrook? If you don't suggest him force the issue, what should he be doing to improve?

More contact = More fouls = More points.

Others might but I think Wall would really hit his stride as a bigger/better Tony Parker. Parker has been an absolute monster this year down in the paint by keeping his dribble alive more.

Plus it makes for some mind-numbingly boring basketball for these hyperathletes to just charge their way into the paint and pray for a whistle.

[montestewart]

EDIT: Decided to take this sentence here out, in fear of warning. Something to do with Wizard's board being too sensitive.

[BigA]

Actually, it's a good sign that the Bulls/Rose fans have started coming a trollin' again.

[blazinskillz]

I don't really think John is injury prone. His rookie year maybe but he played all games last season and hasn't missed a game since he's been back. Compared to someone like Irving so gets injured, comes back, then gets injured again

[Nivek]

Okay, MellowRose, I'm an open-minded guy. Do some research to support your claim. Don't come back with more anecdotes, which is all you've presented so far. Demonstrate in some way that Wall may be more injury prone because of his playing style.

As for the question in the thread title, it's been answered. No, most of us are not particularly concerned that Wall might get hurt. He might get injured, of course. Injuries happen in basketball -- especially to the Wizards/Bullets through the years.

If you'd like to convince me that I should be concerned, have at it. Go do some research on the subject. Come back and share your findings. I'll be interested to see what you come up with. Until then...not much to discuss.

[tontoz]

Why hasn't this thread been locked?

[Higga]

Anybody can get hurt at anytime. That's big boy basketball.

[sfam]

Why hasn't this thread been locked?

I second this.