There is one way this could end up being good for the team: If they give Ariza some minutes at S4.
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Given Nenê's very average play this season, AND the soft schedule the rest of the way, the Wizards could play .500-ish ball the rest of the season. They should still make the playoffs.
There is one way this could end up being good for the team: If they give Ariza some minutes at S4.
There is one way this could end up being good for the team: If they give Ariza some minutes at S4.
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Nivek wrote:Given Nenê's very average play this season, AND the soft schedule the rest of the way, the Wizards could play .500-ish ball the rest of the season. They should still make the playoffs.
There is one way this could end up being good for the team: If they give Ariza some minutes at S4.
No. Harrington.
In b4 your "stats". Harrington is an unbelievable baller with unbelievable headband swag. One of the last remaining circa 2000s headband, wristband, streeball, shaved head, bucket raining swag players.
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AFM wrote:Nivek wrote:Given Nenê's very average play this season, AND the soft schedule the rest of the way, the Wizards could play .500-ish ball the rest of the season. They should still make the playoffs.
There is one way this could end up being good for the team: If they give Ariza some minutes at S4.
No. Harrington.
In b4 your "stats". Harrington is an unbelievable baller with unbelievable headband swag. One of the last remaining circa 2000s headband, wristband, streeball, shaved head, bucket raining swag players.
It gets difficult to tell when you're serious and when you've been having a few drinks.
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miller31time wrote:Happiest man on the planet right now? - Ernie Grunfeld
I think he was sweating a little bit as the Wizards were on the verge of just sneaking into the playoffs and getting crushed in the 1st round (or possibly missing the playoffs all together) with basically 100% health all season long.
But now, the glorious injury excuse has presented itself. He's golden, no matter what happens.
We somehow play respectable basketball the rest of the season and finish with the 5th or 6th seed? = "This is a great team we have here in Washington and we'd be even better if Nene was healthy and playing. I can't wait until next season when we have a healthy roster."
We predictably play much worse and either get the 7th or 8th seed or fall out of the playoffs completely? = "You just can't plan for injuries, especially to players as good as Nene. But the core of this team is strong. With a healthy roster next year, we'll get to see just how good this team can actually be!"

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Nivek wrote:Given Nenê's very average play this season, AND the soft schedule the rest of the way, the Wizards could play .500-ish ball the rest of the season. They should still make the playoffs.
There is one way this could end up being good for the team: If they give Ariza some minutes at S4.
Yesssssssss
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pineappleheadindc wrote:AFM wrote:Nivek wrote:Given Nenê's very average play this season, AND the soft schedule the rest of the way, the Wizards could play .500-ish ball the rest of the season. They should still make the playoffs.
There is one way this could end up being good for the team: If they give Ariza some minutes at S4.
No. Harrington.
In b4 your "stats". Harrington is an unbelievable baller with unbelievable headband swag. One of the last remaining circa 2000s headband, wristband, streeball, shaved head, bucket raining swag players.
It gets difficult to tell when you're serious and when you've been having a few drinks.
Why can't it be alcohol-fueled passionate conviction?
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Perspective: Washington burned a first round pick because Okafor was injured at the start of the season.
Now, after trading for a backup PG, they lose Nene.
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Now, after trading for a backup PG, they lose Nene.
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pineappleheadindc wrote:AFM wrote:Nivek wrote:Given Nenê's very average play this season, AND the soft schedule the rest of the way, the Wizards could play .500-ish ball the rest of the season. They should still make the playoffs.
There is one way this could end up being good for the team: If they give Ariza some minutes at S4.
No. Harrington.
In b4 your "stats". Harrington is an unbelievable baller with unbelievable headband swag. One of the last remaining circa 2000s headband, wristband, streeball, shaved head, bucket raining swag players.
It gets difficult to tell when you're serious and when you've been having a few drinks.
I'm serious. T-mac, Iverson, Harrington, Jermaine O'neal, Jason Richardson... These are all players from the streetball ISO no conscience, make it rain buckets era. Dat headband swag doe...
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Nivek wrote:Given Nenê's very average play this season, AND the soft schedule the rest of the way, the Wizards could play .500-ish ball the rest of the season. They should still make the playoffs.
There is one way this could end up being good for the team: If they give Ariza some minutes at S4.
You "arranged" this injury, didn't you - not suspecting that Wittman would foil your plans by using Al Harrington for 30 minutes a game going (power) forward.

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miller31time wrote:Happiest man on the planet right now? - Ernie Grunfeld
I think he was sweating a little bit as the Wizards were on the verge of just sneaking into the playoffs and getting crushed in the 1st round (or possibly missing the playoffs all together) with basically 100% health all season long.
But now, the glorious injury excuse has presented itself. He's golden, no matter what happens.
We somehow play respectable basketball the rest of the season and finish with the 5th or 6th seed? = "This is a great team we have here in Washington and we'd be even better if Nene was healthy and playing. I can't wait until next season when we have a healthy roster."
We predictably play much worse and either get the 7th or 8th seed or fall out of the playoffs completely? = "You just can't plan for injuries, especially to players as good as Nene. But the core of this team is strong. With a healthy roster next year, we'll get to see just how good this team can actually be!"
The 'core' of this team is in large part based around an overpaid, severely injury- prone 31 year old center. With no depth behind him. Grunfeld's failures speak for themselves.. smh
It's that kind of poor decision making and lack of foresight that will seal his fate. I'd bet Grunfeld is sweating bullets actually.
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Let's say the injury is as severe as some fear, and Nene's out for the rest of the season, and possibly will miss a lot of time during the offseason recovering. Maybe, just maybe, Nene starts thinking about retirement again. I mean, if he actually thought about it at all before, another severe injury might be enough to bring back those thoughts. All of a sudden Nene's contact comes off the books, and we've got about $30 million in cap space this summer. Wall/Beal/LeBron done. 
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There's a part of me that just wants this to be a reality so this front office can realize the true depth of its failures
Arizas agent will ask for far above market value just to keep the team sub .500 knowing we have zero wiggle room because we spent zero energy in developing Porter, meanwhile Web looks like he's close to breaking down at any moment.
And Gortats agent will be licking his lips too.
And then to actually field a team that can make the playoffs we'll have to go over the cap and pay the tax just to overpay a slightly above average PF in the off-season.
Arizas agent will ask for far above market value just to keep the team sub .500 knowing we have zero wiggle room because we spent zero energy in developing Porter, meanwhile Web looks like he's close to breaking down at any moment.
And Gortats agent will be licking his lips too.
And then to actually field a team that can make the playoffs we'll have to go over the cap and pay the tax just to overpay a slightly above average PF in the off-season.
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Dark Faze wrote:There's a part of me that just wants this to be a reality so this front office can realize the true depth of its failures
Arizas agent will ask for far above market value just to keep the team sub .500 knowing we have zero wiggle room because we spent zero energy in developing Porter, meanwhile Web looks like he's close to breaking down at any moment.
And Gortats agent will be licking his lips too.
And then to actually field a team that can make the playoffs we'll have to go over the cap and pay the tax just to overpay a slightly above average PF in the off-season.
We can always just let both walk and throw Monroe the max, and still be under the tax.
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Illmatic21 wrote:miller31time wrote:Happiest man on the planet right now? - Ernie Grunfeld
I think he was sweating a little bit as the Wizards were on the verge of just sneaking into the playoffs and getting crushed in the 1st round (or possibly missing the playoffs all together) with basically 100% health all season long.
But now, the glorious injury excuse has presented itself. He's golden, no matter what happens.
We somehow play respectable basketball the rest of the season and finish with the 5th or 6th seed? = "This is a great team we have here in Washington and we'd be even better if Nene was healthy and playing. I can't wait until next season when we have a healthy roster."
We predictably play much worse and either get the 7th or 8th seed or fall out of the playoffs completely? = "You just can't plan for injuries, especially to players as good as Nene. But the core of this team is strong. With a healthy roster next year, we'll get to see just how good this team can actually be!"
The 'core' of this team is in large part based around an overpaid, severely injury- prone 31 year old center. With no depth behind him. Grunfeld's failures speak for themselves.. smh
It's that kind of poor decision making and lack of foresight that will seal his fate. I'd bet Grunfeld is sweating bullets actually.
[snark]And I'm sure Nene's injury had nothing to do with them playing him too many minutes - particularly playing him over 30 minutes in the front end of 2 games in less than 24 hours. That wasn't asking for trouble. [/snark]
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Sluggerface wrote:Dark Faze wrote:There's a part of me that just wants this to be a reality so this front office can realize the true depth of its failures
Arizas agent will ask for far above market value just to keep the team sub .500 knowing we have zero wiggle room because we spent zero energy in developing Porter, meanwhile Web looks like he's close to breaking down at any moment.
And Gortats agent will be licking his lips too.
And then to actually field a team that can make the playoffs we'll have to go over the cap and pay the tax just to overpay a slightly above average PF in the off-season.
We can always just let both walk and throw Monroe the max, and still be under the tax.
except that Detroit has already said they'd match lol
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Dark Faze wrote:There's a part of me that just wants this to be a reality so this front office can realize the true depth of its failures
No argument except to quibble and say we need THE OWNER, not mgmt, to realize
the depths of the ineptitude.
Dark Faze wrote:Arizas agent will ask for far above market value just to keep the team sub .500 knowing we have zero wiggle room because we spent zero energy in developing Porter, meanwhile Web looks like he's close to breaking down at any moment.
I think he'll take the best offer and we shouldn't have to automatically assume that
we'll have to overpay in order to be the best offer. OP, as uncertain at this point as he is,
is insurance against over-paying. That combined with the new CBA and the penalties/taxes
that other teams might have to take on in order to make him an offer.
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Dark Faze wrote:Sluggerface wrote:Dark Faze wrote:There's a part of me that just wants this to be a reality so this front office can realize the true depth of its failures
Arizas agent will ask for far above market value just to keep the team sub .500 knowing we have zero wiggle room because we spent zero energy in developing Porter, meanwhile Web looks like he's close to breaking down at any moment.
And Gortats agent will be licking his lips too.
And then to actually field a team that can make the playoffs we'll have to go over the cap and pay the tax just to overpay a slightly above average PF in the off-season.
We can always just let both walk and throw Monroe the max, and still be under the tax.
except that Detroit has already said they'd match lol
Detroit may be blowing smoke. What they're really probably looking for is a sign-and-trade deal for Monroe since they've overpaid Josh Smith and will probably have to pay Drummond the max in a year or two. On top of that, the Smith-Monroe-Drummond frontcourt has issues.
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dobrojim wrote:Dark Faze wrote:There's a part of me that just wants this to be a reality so this front office can realize the true depth of its failures
No argument except to quibble and say we need THE OWNER, not mgmt, to realize
the depths of the ineptitude.Dark Faze wrote:Arizas agent will ask for far above market value just to keep the team sub .500 knowing we have zero wiggle room because we spent zero energy in developing Porter, meanwhile Web looks like he's close to breaking down at any moment.
I think he'll take the best offer and we shouldn't have to automatically assume that
we'll have to overpay in order to be the best offer. OP, as uncertain at this point as he is,
is insurance against over-paying. That combined with the new CBA and the penalties/taxes
that other teams might have to take on in order to make him an offer.
Agents aren't dumb. They look at the win now moves Ernie and Ted have made for this year, how they've completely pushed aside their young #3 overall pick in favor of playing tried and true vets in order to make the playoffs...there's absolutely no reason why they won't try to ring every last dollar out of Teds pocket come free agency.
Now that doesn't mean they'll get what they want but they'll set the number high and Ernie has shown a track record of giving in extremely easily.
I mean we're talking about a guy who extended an injury prone Martell Webster for above market value after only one year of work despite drafting a concencus "ready to contribute now" player in Porter already while having Ariza on the roster.
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DCZards wrote:Dark Faze wrote:Sluggerface wrote:
We can always just let both walk and throw Monroe the max, and still be under the tax.
except that Detroit has already said they'd match lol
Detroit may be blowing smoke. What they're really probably looking for is a sign-and-trade deal for Monroe since they've overpaid Josh Smith and will probably have to pay Drummond the max in a year or two. On top of that, the Smith-Monroe-Drummond frontcourt has issues.
And I hope you're right. Because if we could lose Gortat and Ariza and start Otto and Greg out of necessity then we can finally have our core ready to go and start making real long term strides as a team.












