Official Thread -- Wizards at Cs (4/16/14)

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

This. The only guy I'm interested in resting is Nene. Other than that, they need to start the normal crew and make sure they win.

I don't think Nene needs any rest. He needs minutes to continue to get his rhythm back. I'd like to see him play at least 24 minutes.

Of all our players, Webster is probably the guy who would benefit most from time off. He hasn't been right for quite some time now. If things are going well in the 1st quarter, I'd like to see Wittman bring in Porter instead of Webster to sub for Beal. Let's try and give Porter 24 minutes or so, and Webster 0.

I also would like to see more Seraphin and less Gortat if circumstances permit.

Did any of you catch JMichael's tweet last night that Nene was complaining that he got too many minutes vs Miami?

When I'm back this afternoon, I'll try and post it.

Yep... and it helped solidify in my own mind why I really don't like Nene and why I think, ultimately, he is a bad role model for our two young cornerstone players.

Whining about playing an extra 4 minutes? C'mon man.

Four minutes! Four minutes! Four bloody minutes!... in an important stretch run where the difference between a single seed means more than it has in years.

Most guys want to, you know, actually PLAY basketball.

I just don't believe he has the drive and the passion for the game that you need to be a champion. And the fact that he was brought in for veteran leadership is a terrible indictment of Ernie. He leads alright... leads directly to the path of least resistance, toward absolute mediocrity, where 6th seed is just peachy... and 7th seed is ok as well, as long as you don't have to break too much of a sweat.

I think he is cynical and soft and, frankly, I would prefer that he not be so honest about his take it or leave it attitude about playing. He should at least SAY the right things.

[dlts20]

If Nene is crying about minutes then I dont wanna hear any excuses from him in the playoffs about being rusty or anything. He better be ready to contribute at a high level.

As far as this game goes, only 2 things matter to me. Win and get Wall to find his scoring confidence. IDK why alot of you want to rest this guy and that guy. We could still slip to the 7th seed which would be devestating at this point. We need to make sure we win. We probably wont play again til Sunday and the playoffs are super spaced out now. Im with Nate in saying maybe Webster and the only reason why I feel good about this is because OP is playing so well. However, Web shot great last game for the first game in awhile so I may want to rest him. To me, the guy who may need the most rest by far is Wall. Played every game and had to carry us so much but at this point its more important that we win and he regains confidence in his scoring ability

[jivelikenice]

The Wiz were up big. There was no reason to push Nene's minutes like that. I'd rather see 20 highly effective minutes versus 25 tired minutes.

This game is huge and is a real test for the Wiz. It doesn't matter who Boston suits up, what matters is will we take care of business or will we do what the Wizards do and waste an opportunity for a higher seeding? Playing with expectations, where all the pressure is on you to win is a real part of the growth process. How they handle it will show a lot about where they are mentally.

It is too bad though that they couldn't rest guys this game. Wall really seems to need a break. He's hving problems staying in front of guys like Jameer Nelson and Toney Douglas now. Ideally they don't have their first game until Sunday and squeeze in some additional time off.

[pineappleheadindc]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JMichaelCSN/status/455895799139164161[/tweet]

Just because I said I'd be back to post the tweet.

Edited to add:

I don't have any problem with Nene having the opinion -- in fact, the scrubs didn't get enough burn last night. And that's Wittman's fault. But that comes with the territory of having a substandard coach (and substandard GM behind him).

The thing I *do* have problems with is getting it to the media. That's B.S. If you're a man, you catch Wittman in his office and say "yo, can I have a word with you?". Then you say your piece behind closed doors and take care of business like a man.

You don't say it out loud in public for the press to pick up. That's just whining.

Now I'm not saying Nene told the press. But him not limiting the convo to just him and Witt means that -- whether it's overheard, whether someone else told JMichael or whether Nene told the press -- somebody didn't take care of his business.

That's amateur, to take your grievances and send messages thru the media.

[dckingsfan]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JMichaelCSN/status/455895799139164161[/tweet]

Just because I said I'd be back to post the tweet.

Edited to add:

I don't have any problem with Nene having the opinion -- in fact, the scrubs didn't get enough burn last night. And that's Wittman's fault. But that comes with the territory of having a substandard coach (and substandard GM behind him).

The thing I *do* have problems with is getting it to the media. That's B.S. If you're a man, you catch Wittman in his office and say "yo, can I have a word with you?". Then you say your piece behind closed doors and take care of business like a man.

You don't say it out loud in public for the press to pick up. That's just whining.

Now I'm not saying Nene told the press. But him not limiting the convo to just him and Witt means that -- whether it's overheard, whether someone else told JMichael or whether Nene told the press -- somebody didn't take care of his business.

That's amateur, to take your grievances and send messages thru the media.

Yep, three can keep a secret if two are dead.

[Sluggerface]

I like Mike Woodson. Terrible coach, but at least he admits his faults.

Unlike some other person we know.

[Sluggerface]

Also, looks like the Knicks are going to pull out this win.

So possible scenarios for Wednesday:

BKN loses
WSH wins
TOR loses
CHI wins

WSH vs TOR

BKN wins
WSH wins
TOR wins

WSH vs TOR

BKN wins
WSH wins
TOR loses
CHI loses

WSH vs TOR

BKN loses
WSH wins
TOR wins

WSH vs CHI

BKN wins
WSH wins
TOR loses
CHI wins

WSH vs CHI

WSH loses
CHI loses

WSH vs Miami

[Illmatic12]

Brooklyn getting shellacked by the Melo-less Knicks.. if they mail it in again vs Cleveland tomorrow, this Celtics game could be for the 5th seed

[Sluggerface]

Brooklyn getting shellacked by the Melo-less Knicks.. if they mail it in again vs Cleveland tomorrow, this Celtics game could be for the 5th seed

And I forgot another scenario.

BKN loses
CHI loses
TOR loses
WSH wins

WSH vs CHI

Think that covers it.

[JWizmentality]

While I don't like it leaked to the media, I'm glad Nene thinks Wittless is an inept moron too.

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[ptptpt]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JMichaelCSN/status/455895799139164161[/tweet]

Just because I said I'd be back to post the tweet.

Edited to add:

I don't have any problem with Nene having the opinion -- in fact, the scrubs didn't get enough burn last night. And that's Wittman's fault. But that comes with the territory of having a substandard coach (and substandard GM behind him).

The thing I *do* have problems with is getting it to the media. That's B.S. If you're a man, you catch Wittman in his office and say "yo, can I have a word with you?". Then you say your piece behind closed doors and take care of business like a man.

You don't say it out loud in public for the press to pick up. That's just whining.

Now I'm not saying Nene told the press. But him not limiting the convo to just him and Witt means that -- whether it's overheard, whether someone else told JMichael or whether Nene told the press -- somebody didn't take care of his business.

That's amateur, to take your grievances and send messages thru the media.

Eh...I am honestly wondering if he actually said this to the press or if it was overheard in a conversation. If it was overheard in a convo then I'm dismissing it. I know players should watch what they say, but I also feel like folks should be entitled to a bit of privacy. But hey, comes with the territory of the job. Hopefully they work it out among themselves.

[McFilthy]

This SHOULD be a win. Yet it would be a very Wizards thing to do to lose this game and limp into the playoffs. Also, the city of Boston is feeling a lot of pride right now with the anniversary of the Boston Marathon bombing.

[hands11]

Well here we go. We will finally know the standing after tonight.

15 games. That the entire league.

Should be interesting to see what happens in the TOR vs NY game. NY has been playing well so that should give us a glimpse into how ready TOR is or not.

BRK seems to be tanking for a match up against TOR. Not sure if that's the way to go for them or not but it does set us up against CHI if we win tonight. Personally, I would rather see us play CHI than TOR. I get the arguement that CHI is playoff experienced and TOR isn't, but just don't like how we match up against TOR. Also CHI would be a more exciting series and we match up well with Nene active. If the Wizards are going to lose in the first round, I would rather it be to CHI then to TOR. And I think there is more for them to learn going against CHI vs TOR.

Bulls vs Cat is another interesting game. Going to be interesting to see how CHA measures up to them.

Then LAC vs POR - LAC already recorded their best record in franchise history this year and that was in a tough West Conference. They should be fine tuning things for their series against the GSW.

[dandridge 10]

This SHOULD be a win. Yet it would be a very Wizards thing to do to lose this game and limp into the playoffs. Also, the city of Boston is feeling a lot of pride right now with the anniversary of the Boston Marathon bombing.

I feel the same way. With the Wizards poised to lock up the 6th seed and possibly the 5th and riding a 3 win streak, it would be soooo Wizards to lose tonight's game. I am almost expecting a loss.

Regarding Nene, he has always been my least favorite Wizard. Just seems to be always whining about something and is a prima donna. However, if the doctors said he should not play more than 20 minutes, then there is no reason Wittman should have played him over that amount, especially since the game was well in hand.

[nate33]

I'm going to try and summarize Sluggerface's post, mostly so I can get my arms around it. The following relevant games are being played tonight:

WAS @ BOS
CHI @ CHA
BRK @ CLE
TOR @ NYK


IF WE LOSE:

CHI < CHA
We play Miami in a 7v2 matchup. All other games are irrelevant. No other scenario results in us playing Miami.

CHI > CHA
TOR > NYK
We play Toronto in a 6v3 matchup. The BRK/CLE game is irrelevant.

CHI > CHA
TOR < NYK
We play Chicago in a 6v3 matchup. The BRK/CLE game is irrelevant.


IF WE WIN:

TOR > NYK
BRK > CLE
We play Toronto in a 6v3 matchup. The CHI/CHA game is irrelevant

TOR > NYK
BRK < CLE
We play Chicago in a 5v4 matchup. The CHI/CHA game is irrelevant

TOR < NYK
BRK > CLE
CHI > CHA
We play Chicago in a 6v3 matchup

TOR < NYK
BRK > CLE
CHI < CHA
We play Toronto in a 6v3 matchup

TOR < NYK
BRK < CLE
CHI > CHA
We play Toronto in a 5v4 matchup

TOR < NYK
BRK < CLE
CHI < CHA
We play Chicago in a 5v4 matchup

[Higga]

Lets just win. Avoid Miami and our chances are good to advance to the 2nd round.

[jeffsays]

Hope for the fifth seed. I'd rather not play Miami if we get to the second round.

[ptptpt]

Lets just win. Avoid Miami and our chances are good to advance to the 2nd round.

Agreed. I don't want to see Lebron play this team again. I still have nightmares from the Gil years.

[Rafael122]

Livingston, Johnson, and Williams OUT tonight for the Nets against the Cavs.

[dlts20]

biggest game of the season by far. Win and we assure ouselves of not playing the Heat in the 1st round with also a great shot of moving up where we wouldnt have to play the Heat til the ECF. A win means we have won 8 of 11 and 4 straight, possibly all by double figures which means our confidence would be sky high in the 1st round no matter the opponent.

On the flip side, a loss would be super devestating. BK was basically giving us the 5 seed and we didnt get it and may even drop all the way down to 7th even though we were truly trying to beat a bad C's team. That would be so discouraging going into the 1st round that I dont see us beating anyone.

PS- I need to see Wall get his scoring touch back before the 1st round or else we will probably be down in a series before he starts talking in the media about how he needs to be more aggressive. Dont wait Wall, get back there now