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Post#21 » by dlts20 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:30 pm

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dlts20 wrote:dont let these playoffs fool you. To me this is still about your Franchise player and this system isnt right for him. You still have both Witt and Sam preaching about jumpers. We have talent. We can still be better with a better coach


Question: do you think there is any chance that Randy is going anywhere if they make it to the second round?

if there are big name coaches on the market who he feels can take us to the next level then hell yes. However, we are probably going to atleast the ECF which will make it hard. I would give Witt another one year contract and still fire him halfway though the year if we suck.. If he doesnt take it then fine but Im not trusting him long term
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Post#22 » by flash22 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:32 pm

queridiculo wrote:What I'm curious about is whether players currently contractually bound to the Clippers could possibly get their contracts voided.


Why would they? The Clippers have done nothing that would void with contract.
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Post#23 » by MDStar » Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:34 pm

Pretty much what I thought. A lifetime ban, maximum fine and the recommendation of a forced sale by way of a clause in the constitution. Sterling is as good as gone.
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Post#24 » by dobrojim » Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:52 pm

I wouldn't break the bank for Rivers. I simply am not convinced he is really
exceptional as a head coach. I'm not saying he's horrible, but I don't think he's
great either. Don't care about CoY awards. Not impressed.

And Sterling is a POS. Can he really be so stupid as to have an obviously
gold-digging concubine and not expect there to be repercussions from that?

BTW - Love Jon Stewart's take on this last night. Worth a watch if you haven't seen it.
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between this and Bundy I'd say so much for the believability of a post-racial USA.
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Post#25 » by FAH1223 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:19 pm

MDStar wrote:Pretty much what I thought. A lifetime ban, maximum fine and the recommendation of a forced sale by way of a clause in the constitution. Sterling is as good as gone.


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Post#26 » by dckingsfan » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:21 pm

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dlts20 wrote:dont let these playoffs fool you. To me this is still about your Franchise player and this system isnt right for him. You still have both Witt and Sam preaching about jumpers. We have talent. We can still be better with a better coach


Question: do you think there is any chance that Randy is going anywhere if they make it to the second round?

if there are big name coaches on the market who he feels can take us to the next level then hell yes. However, we are probably going to atleast the ECF which will make it hard. I would give Witt another one year contract and still fire him halfway though the year if we suck.. If he doesnt take it then fine but Im not trusting him long term


Hmmm, that doesn't seem very Ted. I think he is going to declare victory and re-up Witt and EG to a multi-year contract even if we win this series. If we get to the ECF - it is all but guaranteed.
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Post#27 » by dckingsfan » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:23 pm

MDStar wrote:Pretty much what I thought. A lifetime ban, maximum fine and the recommendation of a forced sale by way of a clause in the constitution. Sterling is as good as gone.


It can't get any better than that... even if they can't legally get Sterling out, even if it is unenforceable, the league still wins and it sends a message that the behavior won't be tolerated - Nice job Silver.
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Post#28 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:37 pm

A private recording results in "landmark progress",

That guy is over 80, a billionaire, and all he did was speak what he believes. The way people love to ostracize and demonize irresponsible and even repugnant commentary shows a lot about human nature.

Maybe Sterling is finally getting his, or maybe the media is just hyping comments obtained by a vicious, blackmailing woman.

The GF is black and Mexican. The man may well be addicted, or senile, or suffering from dementia. This does not transcend all sports stories. Who knows what the true beliefs of the other owners are?

I am conflicted about this. I migbt be in the 1%.

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Post#30 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:40 pm

People who are saying how hard things are for them have no idea how hard life is for people with real problems.

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Post#31 » by MDStar » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:45 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:A private recording results in "landmark progress",

That guy is over 80, a billionaire, and all he did was speak what he believes. The way people love to ostracize and demonize irresponsible and even repugnant commentary shows a lot about human nature.

Maybe Sterling is finally getting his, or maybe the media is just hyping comments obtained by a vicious, blackmailing woman.

The GF is black and Mexican. The man may well be addicted, or senile, or suffering from dementia. This does not transcend all sports stories. Who knows what the true beliefs of the other owners are?

I am conflicted about this. I migbt be in the 1%.

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Regardless of how the comments were obtained, it doesn't change the comments themselves. Here's a question for you. Would you personally work for him and/or would you spend money on his franchise which results in making him profit?

If not, then that seems to be the sentiment of a majority of the NBA supporting public and for the league as a whole, this whole thing had the potential to be extremely damaging to the NBA product. Which in my opinion is why the response and any to follow are allowable and acceptable under the NBA Constitution.
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Post#32 » by nuposse04 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:06 pm

They're what, 11 years? late on this. I mean if you're going to punish him, punish him because he actually tried to destroy lives with his housing practices. I'm glad he's banned and I'm disappointed he's 80+, I'd like him to suffer ostricization from humanity as long as possible. Although, there will always be ways he can still indulge with his wealth. I do not think you can defend him at all, and the world will be a better place when he's 6 feet under.
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Post#33 » by dobrojim » Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:16 pm

that was Kareem's point last night on Rachel. How is it that people are now surprised
by this? Confession: I had put out of my mind what a scumbag he is. I just hadn't paid
any attention to it. But if you lived in LA, you can't be surprised.

just read the lowdown on WT. Seems appropriate. Too bad he can't be forced to
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Post#34 » by nate33 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:29 pm

I'm torn on this. There is no evidence that Sterling has operated the Clippers in a racist manner. He hires and pays black people millions of dollars, just like every other owner. Essentially, this man is being penalized for his private thoughts. That's a scary concept.

At the same time, the NBA is a business. Because Sterling's private thoughts made it to the public, he is now a gigantic liability for the NBA. He sullied the NBA name and his words would presumably impact NBA revenue. From a pure business perspective there is a financial motivation to dump him. If the majority of other owners want him gone, then perhaps they should have the power to get rid of him.
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Post#35 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:36 pm

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:A private recording results in "landmark progress",

That guy is over 80, a billionaire, and all he did was speak what he believes. The way people love to ostracize and demonize irresponsible and even repugnant commentary shows a lot about human nature.

Maybe Sterling is finally getting his, or maybe the media is just hyping comments obtained by a vicious, blackmailing woman.

The GF is black and Mexican. The man may well be addicted, or senile, or suffering from dementia. This does not transcend all sports stories. Who knows what the true beliefs of the other owners are?

I am conflicted about this. I migbt be in the 1%.

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Regardless of how the comments were obtained, it doesn't change the comments themselves. Here's a question for you. Would you personally work for him and/or would you spend money on his franchise which results in making him profit?

If not, then that seems to be the sentiment of a majority of the NBA supporting public and for the league as a whole, this whole thing had the potential to be extremely damaging to the NBA product. Which in my opinion is why the response and any to follow are allowable and acceptable under the NBA Constitution.


I understand that the Clippers and the NBA had to quickly dissociate from Donald Sterling.

MDStar, I have worked for a man who had ways similar (an AF colonel). Touché, I loathed working for him. I guess the end justified the means.

That said, this sets a precedent of no such thing as free speech. I wonder if Sterling were the least contrite after the fact if the ban still would be for life.
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Post#36 » by Ruzious » Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:36 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:A private recording results in "landmark progress",

That guy is over 80, a billionaire, and all he did was speak what he believes. The way people love to ostracize and demonize irresponsible and even repugnant commentary shows a lot about human nature.

Maybe Sterling is finally getting his, or maybe the media is just hyping comments obtained by a vicious, blackmailing woman.

The GF is black and Mexican. The man may well be addicted, or senile, or suffering from dementia. This does not transcend all sports stories. Who knows what the true beliefs of the other owners are?

I am conflicted about this. I migbt be in the 1%.

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I'm not conflicted in the least. It's been clear for 4 plus decades that the guy is a lousy human being. One of his many many many court cases included a case he had with my father. Reading the transcript (from a case around 40 years ago), it was obvious even then that he treated his employees horribly, and there was a reason why his team was regarded as the worst run franchise in the industry. I doubt the conversation came as much of a surprise to the people who know him. And I think his beliefs are obvious and pathetic.

Whether or not she benefits from this doesn't concern me in the least. She's a non-issue, as far as I'm concerned.
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Post#37 » by Induveca » Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:52 pm

He's over 80, so be it......likely demented, confused and on 10 meds a day.

Can't have a loose cannon like that bringing around psycho gold diggers recording conversations about race.

Bravo to Silver for the hammer. The guy, whether the comments themselves warranted it "legally" or not had become a MAJOR liability for the league.

For a man over 80 it's difficult to comprehend what he truly meant. But considering he/his gold digger ruin the entire brand by sticking around had to be done.
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Post#38 » by Hidden Eye » Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:56 pm

Wizards are going to go to 2nd round and Wittman isn't going anywhere.
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Post#39 » by doclinkin » Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:14 pm

nate33 wrote:I'm torn on this. There is no evidence that Sterling has operated the Clippers in a racist manner. He hires and pays black people millions of dollars, just like every other owner. Essentially, this man is being penalized for his private thoughts. That's a scary concept.

At the same time, the NBA is a business. Because Sterling's private thoughts made it to the public, he is now a gigantic liability for the NBA. He sullied the NBA name and his words would presumably impact NBA revenue. From a pure business perspective there is a financial motivation to dump him. If the majority of other owners want him gone, then perhaps they should have the power to get rid of him.


Pretty much where I am as well.
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Post#40 » by TGW » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:57 pm

He hires and pays black people millions of dollars because it puts billions in his pocket and because he has to by law. It has nothing to do with him being racist or not. If Donald Sterling had his way, he'd pay his players in dog food and cadillacs if it were possible.
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