Official Thread - Wizards vs Pacers (5/11/14)

[dlts20]

if I was Witt I would stress to the team that everything is fine and to say that they should just act like Indy won both home games and we won game 3. Basically they did what they were suppose to do as a top seed and if we win this next game then weve done what we are suppose to do. Its still a great position to be in. Most of all that Indy team is still a bunch of front runners and head cases.

One win makes those guys go in the tank again. Feed off the crowd, move the ball, and they wont win. They still only scored 85 and they are so bad on Offense that it actually seemed like they scored 120 beause thats pretty much the best they can do. We scored 75 in the final Bulls game and then came back the 1st game in Indy and looked great on O again so it can happen. We are the better team if we play right. Believe

[dlts20]

trutfhully, BK is inspiring me. Just because you are down doesnt mean youre out and they are still down 1-2 like we are but feel confident. Thats how we have to act. Like we are the confident team that is holding serve and making it a 3 game series. 1 win and its 2-2 with them getting tight and us as a great road team. Ill take that all day. Last game aside, they are stil just as bad right now on the road as we are at home. Lets get it. Im glad its not a day game like I thought it would be. Should serve us well

[payitforward]

The Pacers have found themselves and figured us out. Randy doesn't have much imagination to counter as he keeps saying the same things. Pacers advance eventually and get stomped by the Heat.

Randy? He's the problem? Randy doesn't have the players to counter. That is, when Nene goes 3-14, doesn't rebound, turns it over, etc., Randy doesn't have enough depth.

But... it's always possible to win! Otherwise we wouldn't play these games. And, obviously, this is the critical game. Win it, and we've still got a series. Lose it, and our run is done.

So... lets win it!

[NbdyBeatsTheWiz]

And, obviously, this is the critical game. Win it, and we've still got a series. Lose it, and our run is done.

So... lets win it!

Pretty much.
Lose and I'd bet Indy closes it out at home on Tuesday.
Win and I'm still feeling decent about my pick of Wiz in 7.

Going to find a LOT out about our Wizards and their mental makeup tomorrow night.

[dlts20]

i still dont agree with lose and were done simply since we are so much better on the road and we should be 5-0 in the playoffs including 2 in indy.

[Illmatic12]

Watching the Spurs game, they said Pop has been staying on Tony Parker in timeouts telling him to be more aggressive and stop passing up open looks. See the difference coaching makes?

[Kanyewest]

Tony Parker is playing at a different level offensively right now than John Wall.

[deneem4]

The Pacers have found themselves and figured us out. Randy doesn't have much imagination to counter as he keeps saying the same things. Pacers advance eventually and get stomped by the Heat.

Randy? He's the problem? Randy doesn't have the players to counter. That is, when Nene goes 3-14, doesn't rebound, turns it over, etc., Randy doesn't have enough depth.

But... it's always possible to win! Otherwise we wouldn't play these games. And, obviously, this is the critical game. Win it, and we've still got a series. Lose it, and our run is done.

So... lets win it!

That's when u bring in seraphin...

[payitforward]

i still dont agree with lose and were done simply since we are so much better on the road and we should be 5-0 in the playoffs including 2 in indy.

Good for you, man -- and I hope you are right. Well... hold on, no, I hope we win today so we don't have to find out whether you are right!!

[payitforward]

Watching the Spurs game, they said Pop has been staying on Tony Parker in timeouts telling him to be more aggressive and stop passing up open looks. See the difference coaching makes?

Uh huh.... What are you talking about? Telling a tested, reliable jump shooter to take his open looks is common sense. You saying that right know you really want Wittman to be pushing John Wall to take more jump shots??

[Illmatic12]

Watching the Spurs game, they said Pop has been staying on Tony Parker in timeouts telling him to be more aggressive and stop passing up open looks. See the difference coaching makes?

Uh huh.... What are you talking about? Telling a tested, reliable jump shooter to take his open looks is common sense. You saying that right know you really want Wittman to be pushing John Wall to take more jump shots??

I never said anything about jumpshots. To be more specific they said "Pop told him to stop passing out when he has an open lane to the rim".. ie exactly what Wall is doing

[payitforward]

Randy? He's the problem? Randy doesn't have the players to counter. That is, when Nene goes 3-14, doesn't rebound, turns it over, etc., Randy doesn't have enough depth.

But... it's always possible to win! Otherwise we wouldn't play these games. And, obviously, this is the critical game. Win it, and we've still got a series. Lose it, and our run is done.

So... lets win it!

That's when u bring in seraphin...

I am assuming that you mean to be saying what I've bolded, right?

That Kevin Seraphin is the alternative is more or less what I mean. If you think bringing in one of the worst bigs in the NBA is a way to improve our situation... I don't know what to say, it's that ridiculous.

Right now our first choice for a big off the bench is a guy we were lucky enough to pick up on a 10 day and then keep. What more do you need to know about how thin we are than that? How about if Drew Gooden hadn't been around for the taking late in the season? Where would we be? We got lucky, but "lucky" doesn't imply smart.

Edit: meanwhile, for now lets forget all that stuff and win this game. Winning beats being smart!!

[nate33]

Seraphin might be worth a try. He has range out to 18 feet and the size to keep Hibbert from posting up close to the basket. The issue with Seraphin on the floor is rebounding.

[dobrojim]

Watching the Spurs game, they said Pop has been staying on Tony Parker in timeouts telling him to be more aggressive and stop passing up open looks. See the difference coaching makes?

TP is taking and making a lot of 'bad shots'. Yes he is great at penetrating
and finishing in the paint, but the last couple games all he seems to need
is a little rub screen, then he can take and consistently make an 18-20 ft
shot. These are the shots many of us loathe. But the whole difference
is having a guy who can make them consistently.

[Illmatic12]

Watching the Spurs game, they said Pop has been staying on Tony Parker in timeouts telling him to be more aggressive and stop passing up open looks. See the difference coaching makes?

TP is taking and making a lot of 'bad shots'. Yes he is great at penetrating
and finishing in the paint, but the last couple games all he seems to need
is a little rub screen, then he can take and consistently make an 18-20 ft
shot. These are the shots many of us loathe. But the whole difference
is having a guy who can make them consistently.

Parker is getting way more attempts at the rim than Wall is. They said Pop specifically told him to stop passing when he has an open lane to the basket. Meanwhile Sam Cassell and Wittman are telling Wall to settle for midrange jumpers. That's coaching.

You can't possibly be watching the Spurs games and not see a clear difference between Wall and Parker's willingness to get to the basket.

[dobrojim]

Seraphin might be worth a try. He has range out to 18 feet and the size to keep Hibbert from posting up close to the basket. The issue with Seraphin on the floor is rebounding.

I could even see KS with Gooden, who clearly deserves to play ahead of KS in no small
measure because he does rebound the ball. Not saying that I would plan on this for
major minutes but I wouldn't be afraid to try it, especially if BOTH Nene and Tat
are shooting as woefully as they recently have been. For one thing KS has the bulk
and CoG to not allow Indy's bigs to establish and maintain position. With KS, the issue
or fear I would have is him coming in and committing 3 fouls in 2.5 minutes. Or having
another Dallas moment, the infamous 7 pt play.

[dobrojim]

Watching the Spurs game, they said Pop has been staying on Tony Parker in timeouts telling him to be more aggressive and stop passing up open looks. See the difference coaching makes?

TP is taking and making a lot of 'bad shots'. Yes he is great at penetrating
and finishing in the paint, but the last couple games all he seems to need
is a little rub screen, then he can take and consistently make an 18-20 ft
shot. These are the shots many of us loathe. But the whole difference
is having a guy who can make them consistently.

Parker is getting way more attempts at the rim than Wall is. They said Pop specifically told him to stop passing when he has an open lane to the basket. Meanwhile Sam Cassell and Wittman are telling Wall to settle for midrange jumpers. That's coaching.

True. But as along as the refs are allowing Hibbert to body slam anyone
attacking the rim, without a hint of a whistle, I'm not sure what the alternative
really is. I wouldnt say Wall has had a lot of open lanes to the basket.

[Illmatic12]

TP is taking and making a lot of 'bad shots'. Yes he is great at penetrating
and finishing in the paint, but the last couple games all he seems to need
is a little rub screen, then he can take and consistently make an 18-20 ft
shot. These are the shots many of us loathe. But the whole difference
is having a guy who can make them consistently.

Parker is getting way more attempts at the rim than Wall is. They said Pop specifically told him to stop passing when he has an open lane to the basket. Meanwhile Sam Cassell and Wittman are telling Wall to settle for midrange jumpers. That's coaching.

True. But as along as the refs are allowing Hibbert to body slam anyone
attacking the rim, without a hint of a whistle, I'm not sure what the alternative
really is.

That's BS. Wall is playing scared, stop making excuses

Maybe he changes it tonight, but so far he's been playing scared in this postseason.

[CobraCommander]

The wiz are better than they showed in the last two games - individually and as a team. If you have been a fan for years you know the wiz have games like this periodically.

My thoughts on us getting figured out -

Wall- I don't play against him but I know john wall will get to the rim (possibly have a lay up or floater) and then try to toss it to a wing man in corner. The bulls were all over that- specifically Butler. While I know that's true it's not the time for wall to change his game significantly.

Beal- play less point guard- this leads to bad possessions and turn overs but his freakish talent sometimes gets us off the hook. Beal is our closer- end of the quarter and half. If the wiz shooting a jump shot beal needs to get the ball- (Ariza can make these shots but for the future we need Beal shooting these shots)

Ariza - continue jacking up shots and playing defense. Even though his man is scoring - he is playing the best defense of the team.

Gortat - inconsistent - needs to get the ball in the right spots and shut down that bum hibbert. Hibbert isn't on the polish hammers level.

Nene- it's hard to complain or comment on him. Nene is playing west well and making west cover him honestly. I think nene is out playing west at his own game.

Bench- uh spark us man- out play the pacers bench!

We need to win or I'm sending in the Crimson Guard!

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Seraphin might be worth a try. He has range out to 18 feet and the size to keep Hibbert from posting up close to the basket. The issue with Seraphin on the floor is rebounding.

Could be a good counter move.

You're right about KS's rebounding, but one adjustment the Pacers have made is to back off the offensive glass in favor of getting 5 back on D.

Kevin's weakness isn't magnified as much in this scenario.