Have You Panickers Actually Thought This Through?

[milellie111]

You post is precisely the problem with the awful Morris trade. Without the trade, they could have been free to try to win games and make the playoffs, and if they fail, they at least get the consolation prize of a lotto pick. It's a win-win. But because of the trade, there is now a "maximum pain" zone where they neither make the playoffs nor get a lotto pick. And in typical Grunfeldian fashion, the Wizards are right in the middle of the max pain zone. They have little hope of getting the playoffs now, so the only way to have any positive outcome whatsoever is to tank.

The Morris trade was to provide a spark. This team is talented enough to make the playoffs without Morris. The injury bug and lethargic play at times called for a shot in the arm. Isn't this what need in a good GM? Paying attention to the needs of the team and reacting accordingly. Not just sitting around hoping for results potentially throwing away a season. When the Wiz get rolling, Morris will prove valuable not only for end of season but the stretch run in the playoffs.

[TGW]

"Maximum Pain Zone"

I LOL'd at that...

[nate33]

You post is precisely the problem with the awful Morris trade. Without the trade, they could have been free to try to win games and make the playoffs, and if they fail, they at least get the consolation prize of a lotto pick. It's a win-win. But because of the trade, there is now a "maximum pain" zone where they neither make the playoffs nor get a lotto pick. And in typical Grunfeldian fashion, the Wizards are right in the middle of the max pain zone. They have little hope of getting the playoffs now, so the only way to have any positive outcome whatsoever is to tank.

The Morris trade was to provide a spark. This team is talented enough to make the playoffs without Morris. The injury bug and lethargic play at times called for a shot in the arm. Isn't this what need in a good GM? Paying attention to the needs of the team and reacting accordingly. Not just sitting around hoping for results potentially throwing away a season. When the Wiz get rolling, Morris will prove valuable not only for end of season but the stretch run in the playoffs.

If the rationale for the trade was to "provide a spark", then it was an even more dismal failure. What "spark" have we seen. We have made up no ground whatsoever in the playoff race and have fallen even further behind Chicago and Miami.

[milellie111]

You post is precisely the problem with the awful Morris trade. Without the trade, they could have been free to try to win games and make the playoffs, and if they fail, they at least get the consolation prize of a lotto pick. It's a win-win. But because of the trade, there is now a "maximum pain" zone where they neither make the playoffs nor get a lotto pick. And in typical Grunfeldian fashion, the Wizards are right in the middle of the max pain zone. They have little hope of getting the playoffs now, so the only way to have any positive outcome whatsoever is to tank.

The Morris trade was to provide a spark. This team is talented enough to make the playoffs without Morris. The injury bug and lethargic play at times called for a shot in the arm. Isn't this what need in a good GM? Paying attention to the needs of the team and reacting accordingly. Not just sitting around hoping for results potentially throwing away a season. When the Wiz get rolling, Morris will prove valuable not only for end of season but the stretch run in the playoffs.

If the rationale for the trade was to "provide a spark", then it was an even more dismal failure. What "spark" have we seen. We have made up no ground whatsoever in the playoff race and have fallen even further behind Chicago and Miami.

Morris has barely played in 4 games. Think that's enough time to learn Wittmans offense? Give it a few more games.

[montestewart]

Millie putting the fan in fantasyland, the cyst in fascist, the ample tool in stool sample. Terd + Ernie + Millie is the Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein of the board, and a 3-way for the ages. I laughed, I cried, I farted. Four stars! Don't ever chang.

[closg00]

PHX had been trying to unload Morris the entire season, there's a decent chance that he would have been waived.

The Suns FO must have had champagne celebration after unloading a toxic player with a pending felony charge for expiring contracts AND a lottery pick. Horrifically stupid trade, even factoring-in an improving Morris as we finish-out the season. Now we are entering the MPZ *Nate 33TM*

[milellie111]

PHX had been trying to unload Morris the entire season, there's a decent chance that he would have been waived.

The Suns FO must have had champagne celebration after unloading a toxic player with a pending felony charge for expiring contracts AND a lottery pick. Horrifically stupid trade, even factoring-in an improving Morris as we finish-out the season. Now we are entering the MPZ *Nate 33TM*

Baseless propoganda.
The Suns were satisfied with firing Hornacek and publicly stated they were moving forward with Morris on the roster with high hopes.

http://arizonasports.com/story/542768/suns-gm-it-was-an-organizational-decision-to-keep-markieff-morris/

Morris' last 6 games with the Suns he averaged 20ppg. Phoenix was not going to waive him. The trade made sense.

[TheSecretWeapon]

PHX had been trying to unload Morris the entire season, there's a decent chance that he would have been waived.

The Suns FO must have had champagne celebration after unloading a toxic player with a pending felony charge for expiring contracts AND a lottery pick. Horrifically stupid trade, even factoring-in an improving Morris as we finish-out the season. Now we are entering the MPZ *Nate 33TM*

Baseless propoganda.
The Suns were satisfied with firing Hornacek and publicly stated they were moving forward with Morris on the roster with high hopes.

Hopes were so high, the Suns moved forward with Morris for exactly five games after firing Hornacek. Then they traded him for a protected first rounder. It's almost like they ran the offense through him to let him run up his points per game to a level where some sucker would come along and trade for him.

Morris' last 6 games with the Suns he averaged 20ppg. Phoenix was not going to waive him. The trade made sense.

On below average efficiency. With below average rebounding. With below average overall performance. Even during those final games with the Suns when he was "good."

[dckingsfan]

Baseless propaganda

[fishercob]

WIZARDS FAN THEME SONG (FOR RUZ)

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUvxRjYqjEQ[/youtube]

[dobrojim]

Duane was the Man. Love that youtube has had videos of him for a while now.
One of my biggest regrets as a spectator was I was too young to have seen him live.
He's my #1. If you say Jimi I won't argue but the discussion ends there.

[dobrojim]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GztV3yWNJJw&list=RDGztV3yWNJJw[/youtube]

For my friend CCJ who I know has a thing for MMD.

[fishercob]

Duane was the Man. Love that youtube has had videos of him for a while now.
One of my biggest regrets as a spectator was I was too young to have seen him live.
He's my #1. If you say Jimi I won't argue but the discussion ends there.

Remember when musicians used to play instruments?

[dobrojim]

And few anywhere played them with the passion and fire of Duane Allman. OMG.

[Ruzious]

PHX had been trying to unload Morris the entire season, there's a decent chance that he would have been waived.

The Suns FO must have had champagne celebration after unloading a toxic player with a pending felony charge for expiring contracts AND a lottery pick. Horrifically stupid trade, even factoring-in an improving Morris as we finish-out the season. Now we are entering the MPZ *Nate 33TM*

Baseless propoganda.
The Suns were satisfied with firing Hornacek and publicly stated they were moving forward with Morris on the roster with high hopes.

Hopes were so high, the Suns moved forward with Morris for exactly five games. Then they traded him for a protected first rounder. It's almost like they ran the offense through him to let him run up his points per game to a level where some sucker would come along and trade for him.

Morris' last 6 games with the Suns he averaged 20ppg. Phoenix was not going to waive him. The trade made sense.

On below average efficiency. With below average rebounding. With below average overall performance. Even during those final games with the Suns when he was "good."

I think it's possible that's exactly what happened.

[LyricalRico]

Morris has barely played in 4 games. Think that's enough time to learn Wittmans offense? Give it a few more games.

If Wittman actually had an offense...

[deneem4]

You post is precisely the problem with the awful Morris trade. Without the trade, they could have been free to try to win games and make the playoffs, and if they fail, they at least get the consolation prize of a lotto pick. It's a win-win. But because of the trade, there is now a "maximum pain" zone where they neither make the playoffs nor get a lotto pick. And in typical Grunfeldian fashion, the Wizards are right in the middle of the max pain zone. They have little hope of getting the playoffs now, so the only way to have any positive outcome whatsoever is to tank.

This pretty much times a billion.

We played one of the hardest schedules the 1st half of the season...and every one with the exception of wall and temple missed games...

We can make the playoffs...we can't jus tank it out and hope we can get a high lotto pick....especially when we jus went to the 2nd rd twice and lost to the 2nd or best team in the east that year...

Imagine We keep the pick, draft ______ ...durant stays in okc...we sign Ryan Anderson Keep beal
Fast forward
We Have an absurd # of injuries problems...aren't looking like a playoff team in the middle of the season....
We tank again???

Especially considering our track record of draft picks...hoping for a better draft vs playoff isn't a smart decision regardless of the chances...

We have a better chance at landing guys like durant or horford if we show we are a winning team...that's why pierce came...
Free agency is MORE IMPORTANT than draft picks this summer

[nate33]

You post is precisely the problem with the awful Morris trade. Without the trade, they could have been free to try to win games and make the playoffs, and if they fail, they at least get the consolation prize of a lotto pick. It's a win-win. But because of the trade, there is now a "maximum pain" zone where they neither make the playoffs nor get a lotto pick. And in typical Grunfeldian fashion, the Wizards are right in the middle of the max pain zone. They have little hope of getting the playoffs now, so the only way to have any positive outcome whatsoever is to tank.

This pretty much times a billion.

We played one of the hardest schedules the 1st half of the season...and every one with the exception of wall and temple missed games...

We can make the playoffs...we can't jus tank it out and hope we can get a high lotto pick....especially when we jus went to the 2nd rd twice and lost to the 2nd or best team in the east that year...

Imagine We keep the pick, draft ______ ...durant stays in okc...we sign Ryan Anderson Keep beal
Fast forward
We Have an absurd # of injuries problems...aren't looking like a playoff team in the middle of the season....
We tank again???

Especially considering our track record of draft picks...hoping for a better draft vs playoff isn't a smart decision regardless of the chances...

We have a better chance at landing guys like durant or horford if we show we are a winning team...that's why pierce came...
Free agents is MORE IMPORTANT than draft picks this summer

But. We. Still. Aren't. Winning!

[TheSecretWeapon]

You post is precisely the problem with the awful Morris trade. Without the trade, they could have been free to try to win games and make the playoffs, and if they fail, they at least get the consolation prize of a lotto pick. It's a win-win. But because of the trade, there is now a "maximum pain" zone where they neither make the playoffs nor get a lotto pick. And in typical Grunfeldian fashion, the Wizards are right in the middle of the max pain zone. They have little hope of getting the playoffs now, so the only way to have any positive outcome whatsoever is to tank.

This pretty much times a billion.

We played one of the hardest schedules the 1st half of the season...and every one with the exception of wall and temple missed games...

We can make the playoffs...we can't jus tank it out and hope we can get a high lotto pick....especially when we jus went to the 2nd rd twice and lost to the 2nd or best team in the east that year...

Out of curiosity, do you actually READ things others post? The difficulty of the schedule and the effect players being out has been quantified, analyzed and dissected in some detail on the boards.

To summarize:

- strength of schedule doesn't explain the Wizards' below-.500 record -- the Wizards were significantly worse than average even after accounting for strength of schedule

- while the Wizards lost a bunch of "man games" to injury, they didn't lose much in the win column (about two wins through the first before Beal's return) because the players missing games weren't major producers of wins anyway, AND their backups did a decent job of filling in.

[Sluggerface]

decent chance of a losing streak in the next few games as well--talking about this stretch:

@ Cavs
Pacers (B2B)
@ Blazers
@ Jazz
@ Nuggets (B2B)
Pistons
Bulls

no path to the playoffs there

we need to go 0-7 here. that's the nail in the coffin for grunfailed and we keep our pick

The goal for the Wizards should be to finish no better than 9th worst, ironically they're just as unlikely to achieve that as they are to reaching the playoffs.


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Reading some of the asinine suggestions on this board lately is mind boggling. A loss here or there, everyone wants to blow it up!! Yet those games we win, Wall posts triple doubles, Marcin averages double doubles on the season, Nene looks to form, Beal averaging 20ppg, Sessions arguing for best backup pg in the league, no one has any praise?

The goal of the Wizards should and will be to remain competitive and win as many games as possible. How can some of you guys as fans actually support prematurely throwing away an entire season purposefully? All for the sake of getting a GM and coach canned? Bush league!!

The players on this team with pride, careers, families and financial obligations, you think they will be on board to give up in the middle of the season to support the agenda of a few realgm posters? You think Ted, a successful billionaire, employer of many Monumental employees and dedicated owner sitting courtside at the games, would be happy to see his franchise mail it in? All to support the agenda a few realgm posters? Season ticket holders, fans with families bringing their kids to the games. How would they feel spending hundreds, thousands of dollars to see this team play at a competitive level? You think they would understand mailing in a season all to support the agenda of a few realgm posters?

Say Grunfeld and Wittman gets fired like many suggest. Kiss the Durant sweepstakes goodbye. He's definitely not coming to a rebuilding team.

A new GM would most likely blow this team up, and take at least 3 or 4 seasons to get it back on track. John Wall would be gone by then as he does not want to stick around on a rebuilding team wasting his career.

Then what? You've lost your main star/franchise player and you have to either trade/draft another one. 5+ years of missing the playoffs, potential revolving door of head coaches and falling back to the dark ages. Is that what some of you want? The grass is not always greener on the other side.

The best thing for the Wizards is to keep Grunfeld. Ted realizes this. The risk is not worth it. Canning him would set this franchise back longer than you might imagine.

**** it. I'm convinced. You ARE Grunfeld.