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Re: Seismic Shift in the East: Wizards claim Thomas Bryant off waivers 

Post#21 » by JAR69 » Tue Jul 3, 2018 3:05 am

MVPofDC wrote:The fact that we're trying to tell ourselves its ok to drink the Thomas Bryant kool-aid shows just how badly free agency has been for us


The two aren't mutually exclusive. It is OK to drink the TB kool-aid because he is a genuine developmental big, something we haven't had around here in far too long. It is also true that free agency has gone badly.
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MVPofDC wrote:The fact that we're trying to tell ourselves its ok to drink the Thomas Bryant kool-aid shows just how badly free agency has been for us


The two aren't mutually exclusive. It is OK to drink the TB kool-aid because he is a genuine developmental big, something we haven't had around here in far too long. It is also true that free agency has gone badly.


I'm just having a hard time getting excited over a developmental big of TB's caliber when our team has two legitimate All-Stars and LeBron James just left the Eastern Conference.
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Re: Seismic Shift in the East: Wizards claim Thomas Bryant off waivers 

Post#23 » by Eli Babak » Tue Jul 3, 2018 3:48 am

In NBA 2K there's a glitch that allows him to develop into a 90 ovr all of sudden. Maybe Ernie experienced that and thought it could happen in real life as well?

Jokes aside, he seems like a nice kid and I wish he does well.
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Post#24 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Tue Jul 3, 2018 4:00 am

This off-season is about Ernie trying to save Ted a few sheckles.
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Re: Seismic Shift in the East: Wizards claim Thomas Bryant off waivers 

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MVPofDC wrote:The fact that we're trying to tell ourselves its ok to drink the Thomas Bryant kool-aid shows just how badly free agency has been for us


The two aren't mutually exclusive. It is OK to drink the TB kool-aid because he is a genuine developmental big, something we haven't had around here in far too long. It is also true that free agency has gone badly.


I'm just having a hard time getting excited over a developmental big of TB's caliber when our team has two legitimate All-Stars and LeBron James just left the Eastern Conference.


Yeah, I'm with you. But I didn't expect much, considering the contract situation EG's blundering got us into.
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Post#27 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jul 3, 2018 5:45 am

But...SERIOUSLY, the addition of Thomas Bryant...

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Post#28 » by NatP4 » Tue Jul 3, 2018 11:25 am

That’s nonsense, it’s the type of move we would be applauding if another team made it.
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Post#29 » by queridiculo » Tue Jul 3, 2018 11:34 am

The 2nd round draft and stash still irks me something fierce.

To think we've passed on a guy with upside that fits an area of need over combo guard project that has not discernible NBA skill just so that we have roster spots guys like Robinson, Bryant and Aaron White, **** I hate that guy.
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Post#30 » by I_Like_Dirt » Tue Jul 3, 2018 3:05 pm

NatP4 wrote:That’s nonsense, it’s the type of move we would be applauding if another team made it.


Speak for yourself. Thomas Bryant is irrelevant.
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Post#31 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jul 3, 2018 6:10 pm

NatP4 wrote:That’s nonsense, it’s the type of move we would be applauding if another team made it.
I just enjoy trolling. I have decided that the Wizards are going to continue to disappoint me so that I have the right to amuse myself and anyone else who reads my post.

Thomas Bryant played at Indiana University. When the University of Maryland had a player named Diamond Stone who was supposedly a five-star talent and a lottery selection, I noticed that he was outplayed by Thomas Bryant.

I want to say Bryant is one year older than Stone and they're both in the 22 year old 21 year old age range without even looking it up. Because I live where Fox Sports West is televised, I have seen Thomas Bryant on the court with the LA Lakers G league team.

No, I would not have applauded other teams. Bryant wouldn't really make a difference IMO.

The thread is entitled "Seismic Shift..."

I picked up on the theme and I can take a joke and try to live one, I just felt like adding We Are The Champions... Not.

To be clear I think the Wizards are a joke of a franchise and I am not taking anything they do seriously because all they want to do is end up with 40 wins creep into the playoffs and keep selling us the same old crap.
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Post#32 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jul 3, 2018 6:11 pm

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NatP4 wrote:That’s nonsense, it’s the type of move we would be applauding if another team made it.


Speak for yourself. Thomas Bryant is irrelevant.
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Post#33 » by payitforward » Wed Jul 4, 2018 2:42 am

I disagree. Thomas Bryant is a talent.

Compare him to Jarrett Allen & Tony Bradley -- 2 other very young bigs who came into the league via the '17 draft. His physical tools are comparable to either of them.

Bradley is the closest match. If you look at the 2017 Combine measurements, they are virtually identical in size. Bryant is actually a little longer & has slightly bigger hands. Most important: Bradley's standing & max verticals are slightly worse than Bryant's.

I've been watching Bradley in the Summer League the last day or so -- over his year w/ the Jazz & the off-season so far, he's trimmed his body fat substantially & gotten a lot stronger. He is looking great in the games so far.

Just b/c Tony Bradley did it doesn't mean Thomas Bryant can. But the potential is there.

Jarrett Allen came in w/ a lower % of body fat & weighing 16 lbs less. His verticals were better than either Bradley or Bryant. But, the agility drills were about the same across the 3 of them.

In short, Bryant has all the athleticism, size & length needed. Watch his G League highlights, & you see that he plays with intensity & a good feel for the game.

No one can predict this kid's future, his development path or his ceiling. But he's got serious upside IMO. Lets hope our FO doesn't jettison him the way we did Khem Birch -- now an established & very productive but inexpensive player for the Magic.
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Post#34 » by Illmatic12 » Wed Jul 4, 2018 4:30 am

I didn't know much of anything about this guy but I've been doing some background research. Looking at Bryant on the film, he's got a great frame and tools for his age. He isn't laterally fast, but can run the open floor very well in a straight line and he's vertically explosive for alley oops and rebounds. His 3pt shot mechanics look effortless, and he plays with an edge which is good since he lacks elite talent. There's a whole lot to like there for sure. If he fails, it'll probably be because he doesn't seem to have the footspeed to defend on the perimeter. But he's not as slow & awkward as say, Andrew Nicholson was - I could see a more athletic Gorgui Dieng-type as a model if Bryant develops into a useful rotation piece.

It sounds like the Lakers were pretty high on Thomas Bryant and were figuring him into their longterm plans, at least until the Lebron signing obviously accelerated their timeline. From earlier this summer:


Rob Pelinka on Thomas Bryant.

In particular with Thomas Bryant, we all know the game is about shooting bigs. It was just stretch fours at one point, now you’ve got to have stretch fours and stretch fives, and Thomas Bryant is a seven-foot stretch five. Gunnar Peterson and our weight staff have done an unbelievable job just getting him locked in to being an ‘NBA strong’ player. His body fat went way down under 10 percent, he’s eating clean and you can just see the wiry, strong way he’s growing into his body.”

He’s just an unbelievable, almost intoxicating 3-point shooter from the top of the key. It’s almost automatic. As he grows into his body and the pace of the NBA game you can see Lonzo coming off that high ball screen, you can see Kuz in the space that Thomas Bryant will open up for our cutters and our slashers. We do feel like he’s going to be a big piece of the future and how we want to play, and how we want to build this.”




LA was suddenly forced to cut him to clear capspace, and honestly it sounds like the Wizards were pretty lucky to find a young prospect (he's only 20 !) like Bryant available on the waiver wire. Players like this are exactly why we needed the DC GoGo - bring him in and develop him patiently. By midseason he could be getting spot minutes on the big club
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Post#35 » by gambitx777 » Wed Jul 4, 2018 4:43 am

He is a young player, ! I am all about it.
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Post#36 » by TKainZero » Wed Jul 4, 2018 11:09 am

Laker fan here

Had mild hopes for bryant.

Not freaking out that he was released like when the lakers released bazemore or nwaba
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Post#37 » by nate33 » Wed Jul 4, 2018 3:00 pm

payitforward wrote:Bryant isn't as glued to the ground as some of you seem to think. Here are the '17 Combine measurements:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2709370-nba-combine-results-2017-friday-measurements-highlights-and-top-prospects

Don't get me wrong... he's not a high flyer. But take a look at Harry Giles, Tony Bradley -- & Moritz Wagner, whom some of you were excited to acquire.

Look at his G League highlights -- ok, obviously they're "highlights" so they show him at his best. But he shoots the 3 well, & he looks to have good court awareness, & he is extremely intense. Nor does he look like he's wearing "ankle weights." Again, he's not a high flyer but he's pretty bouncy in the way he plays. Plus, he is really big & long.

Bryant had a terrific Freshman year. He actually declined some as a Sophomore (don't know why), but he has promise -- he's not even 21 yet, btw.

Oh, I forgot -- soon Ernie will be announcing that "we've had our eye on Thomas Bryant for a while. We actually considered taking him in R1 last year, until someone reminded us that we didn't have a pick. So we were pleased when he became available, & we acted quickly to take advantage of the opportunity."

He basically has the same physical characteristics of Demarcus Cousins.

Cousins is 6'-10.75" with a 9'-5" standing reach
Bryant is 6'-10.75" with a 9'-4.5" standing reach

Cousins has a lane agility of 11.4
Bryant has a lane agility of 11.42

Cousins has a no-step vertical of 23.5
Bryant has a no-step vertical of 25.5

The big difference is that Cousins was 290 while Bryant is just 250. Cousins moved as well while carrying a lot more bulk to punish the opposition.
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Post#38 » by I_Like_Dirt » Wed Jul 4, 2018 3:15 pm

The issue with Thomas Bryant isn't his size. Honestly, being a little lighter helps more than it hurts. He just doesn't see the game fast enough and isn't skilled enough by NBA standards. I hope he turns out, and he still might, but even if he does turn out, we're talking maybe 10th man or something.
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Post#40 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Jul 5, 2018 4:12 am

Illmatic12 wrote:I didn't know much of anything about this guy but I've been doing some background research. Looking at Bryant on the film, he's got a great frame and tools for his age. He isn't laterally fast, but can run the open floor very well in a straight line and he's vertically explosive for alley oops and rebounds. His 3pt shot mechanics look effortless, and he plays with an edge which is good since he lacks elite talent. There's a whole lot to like there for sure. If he fails, it'll probably be because he doesn't seem to have the footspeed to defend on the perimeter. But he's not as slow & awkward as say, Andrew Nicholson was - I could see a more athletic Gorgui Dieng-type as a model if Bryant develops into a useful rotation piece.

It sounds like the Lakers were pretty high on Thomas Bryant and were figuring him into their longterm plans, at least until the Lebron signing obviously accelerated their timeline. From earlier this summer:


Rob Pelinka on Thomas Bryant.

In particular with Thomas Bryant, we all know the game is about shooting bigs. It was just stretch fours at one point, now you’ve got to have stretch fours and stretch fives, and Thomas Bryant is a seven-foot stretch five. Gunnar Peterson and our weight staff have done an unbelievable job just getting him locked in to being an ‘NBA strong’ player. His body fat went way down under 10 percent, he’s eating clean and you can just see the wiry, strong way he’s growing into his body.”

He’s just an unbelievable, almost intoxicating 3-point shooter from the top of the key. It’s almost automatic. As he grows into his body and the pace of the NBA game you can see Lonzo coming off that high ball screen, you can see Kuz in the space that Thomas Bryant will open up for our cutters and our slashers. We do feel like he’s going to be a big piece of the future and how we want to play, and how we want to build this.”




LA was suddenly forced to cut him to clear capspace, and honestly it sounds like the Wizards were pretty lucky to find a young prospect (he's only 20 !) like Bryant available on the waiver wire. Players like this are exactly why we needed the DC GoGo - bring him in and develop him patiently. By midseason he could be getting spot minutes on the big club
It's a good thing to have Jeff Green and Markieff Morris in contract years because those guys can teach players like Thomas Bryant how to become good Pros

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