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Post#21 » by Dat2U » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:55 am

I think he's across between Kawhi on D and Jamison on O. That's his floor. Dominated Zion. Will probably dominate LeBron too.

The question is Beal or Rui. If you could only choose one? I might go with Rui because he's a late bloomer and has a higher upside.
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Post#22 » by truwizfan4evr » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:01 am

Dat2U wrote:I think he's across between Kawhi on D and Jamison on O. That's his floor. Dominated Zion. Will probably dominate LeBron too.

The question is Beal or Rui. If you could only choose one? I might go with Rui because he's a late bloomer and has a higher upside.

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Post#23 » by prime1time » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:02 am

Dat2U wrote:I think he's across between Kawhi on D and Jamison on O. That's his floor. Dominated Zion. Will probably dominate LeBron too.

The question is Beal or Rui. If you could only choose one? I might go with Rui because he's a late bloomer and has a higher upside.

Well, to engage in your sarcasm, I don't think he'll end up as good as Beal in his prime. And if you look at scouting reports he has question marks about his defense. At the same time, I don't understand why people get so up in arms because the team doesn't draft the player they want. How about we use this thread to analyze his strengths, his weaknesses and discuss where his game can realistically grow. Extremely sarcastic posts don't contribute much to the conversation/discussion.
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Post#24 » by NatP4 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:04 am

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Post#25 » by truwizfan4evr » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:13 am

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Dat2U wrote:I think he's across between Kawhi on D and Jamison on O. That's his floor. Dominated Zion. Will probably dominate LeBron too.

The question is Beal or Rui. If you could only choose one? I might go with Rui because he's a late bloomer and has a higher upside.

Well, to engage in your sarcasm, I don't think he'll end up as good as Beal in his prime. And if you look at scouting reports he has question marks about his defense. At the same time, I don't understand why people get so up in arms because the team doesn't draft the player they want. How about we use this thread to analyze his strengths, his weaknesses and discuss where his game can realistically grow. Extremely sarcastic posts don't contribute much to the conversation/discussion.
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Post#26 » by trast66 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:28 am

I would have preferred someone who likes to play defense. Or shoot 3’s. I’d give the pick a D+ grade.

Schofield and Robinson moves I like, could be solid back end of roster guys.
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Post#27 » by queridiculo » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:43 am

I really like Hachimura, but I figured he’d get selected in 20 range.

Don’t understand the fit here at all. Defense and rebounding were the obvious needs, Rui gives us neither.

An undersized non-rebounding mid range shooting PF that may struggle to defend in space against NBA competition is the best we could do?

The best comp, Markieff Morris minus the knuckleheadedness.
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Post#28 » by Ruzious » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:52 am

Halcyon wrote:He's a late bloomer. I think he'll be a solid contributing piece.

He's improved quite a bit, but I remember him when he was a freshman, and he showed offensive ability back then. He has definitely built his body up since he was a freshman - he's a lot stronger. The thing that stands out about him in a positive way is his unhesitating aggressiveness in going to the basket. He's a natural scorer, but he's not a natural shooter. He's got a relatively flat shot, so I'm not seeing how he's going to develop a 3 point shot without changing his jump shot mechanics. And I think he really needs to develop a 3 point shot - that's the quandry with picking him so high. I've watched a bunch of Zag games the last few years, and he's always seemed a step behind on defense, so I'm not optimistic about his D. And he's not going to dominate on the boards. So, what do you have there? I said before the draft, his strengths and weaknesses remind of Jabari Parker's, but Parker is more skilled while Rui is more aggressive/physical. Not the player I would have gone for. The Wiz should have traded down.
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Post#29 » by PerkinsFor3 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:41 am

Jabari insurance....
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Post#30 » by queridiculo » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:51 am

prime1time wrote:I like the pick. I know he's a 3 year college player, but this guy is going to be a project. He just started playing basketball at like 13 or 14. We need to get him doing the small things right now. Playing defense, rebounding and making set 3's. Once he does that, then we can expand his game. Take him slow and add on slowly. I'll be diving deeper into him this weekend though. If anyone can find full Zags games, or even some good youtube videos on Rui can you post them here?


You make it sound like he's dribbling the basket of his foot every time he touches the ball :lol:

Hachimura is pretty far ahead despite his late start.

He's got an advanced face up and back to the basket game coupled with reasonable handles for a big. He runs the break well and can dish the ball a bit.

You can put him on the floor against other teams scrubs and he's not going to embarrass himself coming off the bench.
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Post#31 » by oldshoolballer » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:16 am

I was a fan of his in college and will follow him on the Wizards He reminds me a lot of Kawhi in style Rui is going to surprise a lot of people
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Post#32 » by closg00 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:26 pm

FWIW draft grades from the internets

Sporting News - D
Sports Illustrated - B-
Chat Sports - D
CBS Sports - B
NJ.com - C
The Ringer - D
SB Nation - D
Yahoo - C
Walter Football - A
NBA Draft Room - B
Uproxx - D-
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Post#33 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:28 pm

AFM wrote:Don't know how accurate this is, but Jay Bilas is reporting that this is his current fiance.



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Post#34 » by Wizfanman » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:36 pm

I like the pick. I wasn't high on Rui predraft but he seems like a solid pick unlikely to bust. Reminds me of the Ryan Kerrigan pick by the skins years ago just an all around safe pick.
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Post#35 » by queridiculo » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:48 pm

Wizfanman wrote:I like the pick. I wasn't high on Rui predraft but he seems like a solid pick unlikely to bust. Reminds me of the Ryan Kerrigan pick by the skins years ago just an all around safe pick.


I was super high on Hachimura midway through the collegiate season and I love the pick, unfortunately not necessarily because of basketball reasons.

Great demeanor, great personality, I think he'll be a fan favorite.

On the basketball front, where does he even project?

A slow footed SF without much range but a strong inside presence, or an undersized PF that struggles to rebound?

Also curious about the process that had the Wizards rank him as the 4th best prospect in the draft, what did their draft board look like?

A bit disappointed that Washington couldn't find a way to add the other Bulldog to the roster. At 20 Clarke seems like a steal.
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Post#36 » by Rafael122 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:18 pm

I just find it hard to believe that Hachimura, with a reported 7'2'' wingspan, with what...7 years of basketball experience, is somehow a worse prospect than a 23 year old Clarke with T-Rex Arms.

Just reading the tea leaves, it sounds like Hachimura wasn't making it past Charlotte. Shep said they had offers for a trade down, my guess is the drop was steep enough that it wasn't worth it.

I think Nassir Little was brought in in case they did trade down in the draft. I think White was brought in b/c that whole situation was fluid, if Bulls had gone with Reddish I think White would have been ou rpick. I see posts about draft boards, I'm sure they had Zion/Barrett all ranked highly but I took it as their draft board based on who they thought would be available at 9.
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Post#37 » by dobrojim » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:33 pm

TGW wrote:He's Antawn Jamison reincarnated. At #9, you could do a lot worse.


I'll note here that TSW had a do not draft on Reddish (iirc) and ATL took him one pick after Rui.
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Post#38 » by gtn130 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:44 pm

I was never a Rui guy, but after seeing this tweet, everything changed for me:

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Post#39 » by Ruzious » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:45 pm

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Wizfanman wrote:I like the pick. I wasn't high on Rui predraft but he seems like a solid pick unlikely to bust. Reminds me of the Ryan Kerrigan pick by the skins years ago just an all around safe pick.


I was super high on Hachimura midway through the collegiate season and I love the pick, unfortunately not necessarily because of basketball reasons.

Great demeanor, great personality, I think he'll be a fan favorite.

On the basketball front, where does he even project?

A slow footed SF without much range but a strong inside presence, or an undersized PF that struggles to rebound?

Also curious about the process that had the Wizards rank him as the 4th best prospect in the draft, what did their draft board look like?

A bit disappointed that Washington couldn't find a way to add the other Bulldog to the roster. At 20 Clarke seems like a steal.

They definitely went for character over "upside" in this draft. Both picks are extremely hard-working likable types that don't have all-star potential. Fans, teammates, coaches will like them, but ultimately everyone wants to win. Do they add to the talent level needed to win?

And is the 9'2 wingspan for Rui correct? I never would have guessed he's that long.
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Post#40 » by NatP4 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:52 pm

I’m fine with the picks. Rui atleast has the potential to be a good player. It was a weak weak first round with a lot of busts. They bought into round 2, which was shocking. They targeted character guys for once.

I think Rui is going to be a lights out scorer at the nba level. That mid range jumper is automatic, it looks like he can easily space out to the 3pt line, he can take PFs off the dribble, good finisher. All of my questions are about the defense and rebounding.

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