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Re: Wizards Training Camp 2020-21 

Post#21 » by Wizardspride » Wed Dec 2, 2020 4:48 pm

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Post#22 » by Frichuela » Wed Dec 2, 2020 4:57 pm

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Let's really hope so. Our team's ceiling would be raised significantly if we get a a more cerebral and mature John Wall who:

1) Defensively: takes a greater effort and goes back to being a plus defender who helps contain dribble penetration.
2) Offensively: learns to play more off-ball and provides a more consistent threat from the 3-pt line.
3) Off-court: forgets about the last two weeks of shenanigans and focuses on showing he is still an all-star level player.

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Re: Wizards Training Camp 2020-21 

Post#23 » by payitforward » Wed Dec 2, 2020 5:39 pm

Do we know yet who tested positive?
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Post#24 » by NatP4 » Wed Dec 2, 2020 5:46 pm

If Wall just comes back and slides his feet and plays defense, and moves the ball around on offense and creates some open looks for people, he can be better than he was pre injury even.

The problem is that he is going to come back with a "I have something to prove attitude" and all of the bad habits, like poor shot selection, turnovers, lack of effort on defense, will all still be there, and physically he will have taken a step back due to age and injuries.
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Post#25 » by JWizmentality » Wed Dec 2, 2020 8:57 pm

payitforward wrote:Do we know yet who tested positive?


Neto is at camp, so most likely Childs.
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Post#26 » by payitforward » Wed Dec 2, 2020 9:32 pm

Feel really sorry for that kid, if so!

I wonder whether/how it might affect his Exhibit 10 contract....
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Post#27 » by doclinkin » Wed Dec 2, 2020 10:31 pm

I doubt it will. Young and fit, it likely won't phase him all that much. They will keep him on a 10-14 day quarantine and then he will join the team.

What I want to know is what is happening with the G League, and if they are going to have a bubble in Atlanta or what.
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Post#31 » by nate33 » Wed Dec 2, 2020 10:56 pm

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If Bonga can be a bit more efficient from 3 with a bit quicker of a release, he'll be the starter. He is the perfect fit in our rotation.
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Post#32 » by nate33 » Wed Dec 2, 2020 10:57 pm

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I'm sure Brooks didn't mean for it to sound like it sounded, but he is right. Beal looks great. He looks a bit slimmer than in years past, and I think that's a good thing.
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Post#33 » by Ruzious » Wed Dec 2, 2020 11:11 pm

Gill has basically got to prove he can do what Mike Scott did with the Wiz - make 3's. Gill went to UVA a a year or 2 after Scott's senior year there. Interestingly (no?), Scott was not much of a 3 point shooter at UVA. Gill's shown much improvement overseas as a 3 point shooter. Otoh, he probably can't be any worse defensively than Scott was.
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Post#34 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Thu Dec 3, 2020 12:41 am

Ruzious wrote:Gill has basically got to prove he can do what Mike Scott did with the Wiz - make 3's. Gill went to UVA a a year or 2 after Scott's senior year there. Interestingly (no?), Scott was not much of a 3 point shooter at UVA. Gill's shown much improvement overseas as a 3 point shooter. Otoh, he probably can't be any worse defensively than Scott was.


Both were very good defensively at UVA. Not sure what happened to Scott.
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Post#35 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Thu Dec 3, 2020 1:13 am

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If Bonga can be a bit more efficient from 3 with a bit quicker of a release, he'll be the starter. He is the perfect fit in our rotation.



Bonga is my prediction for breakout player this year. I think he surpasses other young players on this team like Troy Brown Jr, Thomas Bryant, Hachimura. I think his offensive game is going to emerge.
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Post#36 » by prime1time » Thu Dec 3, 2020 2:23 pm

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If Bonga can be a bit more efficient from 3 with a bit quicker of a release, he'll be the starter. He is the perfect fit in our rotation.



Bonga is my prediction for breakout player this year. I think he surpasses other young players on this team like Troy Brown Jr, Thomas Bryant, Hachimura. I think his offensive game is going to emerge.

I don't get the love for Bonga.
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Even in this short pick up clip where no one plays defense he makes multiple boneheaded plays where he just loses the ball. And this is a recurring thing. I haven't seen one pick up clip with him where he does something that makes me scratch my head. Maybe Bonga starts because Advija simply has no time to adjust, but I'd be absolutely shocked if Bonga's offensive game surpasses any of those other players. IMO Bonga's has no offensive game. Maybe he can develop into a 3 and D guy but even then as a defense you know that if you force him to put the ball on the floor you've won because he has shown no capability to reset for 3's or put the ball on the floor and get to the hoop. On a side note, Rui looks good. He says he's worked on his ball-handling and 3-point shooting so we'll see. I think with a Westbrook making the game easier, and the ability to have either Russ or Beal on the floor at all times, the game will become a lot easier for Rui. I think high teens is a real possibility for him.
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Post#37 » by nate33 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 2:29 pm

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nate33 wrote:If Bonga can be a bit more efficient from 3 with a bit quicker of a release, he'll be the starter. He is the perfect fit in our rotation.



Bonga is my prediction for breakout player this year. I think he surpasses other young players on this team like Troy Brown Jr, Thomas Bryant, Hachimura. I think his offensive game is going to emerge.

I don't get the love for Bonga.
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Even in this short pick up clip where no one plays defense he makes multiple boneheaded plays where he just loses the ball. And this is a recurring thing. I haven't seen one pick up clip with him where he does something that makes me scratch my head. Maybe Bonga starts because Advija simply has no time to adjust, but I'd be absolutely shocked if Bonga's offensive game surpasses any of those other players. IMO Bonga's has no offensive game. Maybe he can develop into a 3 and D guy but even then as a defense you know that if you force him to put the ball on the floor you've won because he has shown no capability to reset for 3's or put the ball on the floor and get to the hoop. On a side note, Rui looks good. He says he's worked on his ball-handling and 3-point shooting so we'll see. I think with a Westbrook making the game easier, and the ability to have either Russ or Beal on the floor at all times, the game will become a lot easier for Rui. I think high teens is a real possibility for him.

I have no expectations for Bonga other than a slightly better corner 3 with hopefully a slightly quicker release. But I think that's all he really needs to do to help us as long as he keeps playing D. And his D should get better as he gets stronger and develops his core strength and lateral mobility.
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Re: Wizards Training Camp 2020-21 

Post#38 » by prime1time » Thu Dec 3, 2020 2:38 pm

nate33 wrote:
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Bonga is my prediction for breakout player this year. I think he surpasses other young players on this team like Troy Brown Jr, Thomas Bryant, Hachimura. I think his offensive game is going to emerge.

I don't get the love for Bonga.
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Even in this short pick up clip where no one plays defense he makes multiple boneheaded plays where he just loses the ball. And this is a recurring thing. I haven't seen one pick up clip with him where he does something that makes me scratch my head. Maybe Bonga starts because Advija simply has no time to adjust, but I'd be absolutely shocked if Bonga's offensive game surpasses any of those other players. IMO Bonga's has no offensive game. Maybe he can develop into a 3 and D guy but even then as a defense you know that if you force him to put the ball on the floor you've won because he has shown no capability to reset for 3's or put the ball on the floor and get to the hoop. On a side note, Rui looks good. He says he's worked on his ball-handling and 3-point shooting so we'll see. I think with a Westbrook making the game easier, and the ability to have either Russ or Beal on the floor at all times, the game will become a lot easier for Rui. I think high teens is a real possibility for him.

I have no expectations for Bonga other than a slightly better corner 3 with hopefully a slightly quicker release. But I think that's all he really needs to do to help us as long as he keeps playing D. And his D should get better as he gets stronger and develops his core strength and lateral mobility.

Can defenses will run Bonga off the 3-point line. You need to be able to reset or play off of hard closeouts and Bonga hasn't shown the ability to do either.
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Post#39 » by nate33 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 2:40 pm

prime1time wrote:Can defenses will run Bonga off the 3-point line. You need to be able to reset or play off of hard closeouts and Bonga hasn't shown the ability to do either.

Well, yeah, sure. Bonga isn't the second-coming of Paul George just yet. But he might be on the Trevor Ariza track. He does have the basic dribbling ability to attack a close-out. He just lacks the decision-making ability to make the right reads. But Rome wasn't built in a day.
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Post#40 » by NatP4 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 2:41 pm

Do you though? Danny Green never has. Bonga brings value in his elite defense, his rebounding, and his ability to hit some corner 3s. He also has a positive A/TO ratio and gets steals.

The guy has been a PG in the past, I’m sure he has some more off the dribble game, but catch and shoot 3s and keeping the ball moving is just about all he needs to do

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