Russell Westbrook Quad Injury - OUT 3-4 Weeks? (Watch it be more!)

[queridiculo]

Hopefully he'll be fine... And I agree with nate33, tanking would've been easier with the way Russ was playing! At least Brooks will not be fired so that helps a bit.

I suppose durable could be a compliment, but seriously, if you're making this announcement on the heels of having traded oft injured Wall, you're either an ****, you don't know any better, or both.

[nate33]

Something tells me we're going to make a trade out of desperation to keep Beal happy.

I could see us making a trade of Brown or Bonga for a youngish center, but I wouldn't exactly call that a desperation trade. The team simply might believe that there isn't room on the roster for both Brown and Bonga over the long term, so we may as well use the asset to acquire a center to fill the vacuum left by Bryant.

I think it's a mistake to sell low on Brown when he has proven to be effective in the right system, but I could at least understand the logic of trading a redundant forward for a needed big.

[NatP4]

Something tells me we're going to make a trade out of desperation to keep Beal happy.

I could see us making a trade of Brown or Bonga for a youngish center, but I wouldn't exactly call that a desperation trade. The team simply might believe that there isn't room on the roster for both Brown and Bonga over the long term, so we may as well use the asset to acquire a center to fill the vacuum left by Bryant.

I think it's a mistake to sell low on Brown when he has proven to be effective in the right system, but I could at least understand the logic of trading a redundant forward for a needed big.

Brown Jr for Collins.

[queridiculo]

I'd love to see the Wizards go after Richaun Holmes.

[dckingsfan]

I'd love to see the Wizards go after Richaun Holmes.

He has really been playing well. That push shot is getting deadly and now he is hitting a few 3 pointers.

His D has been even more impressive. Without the initial Fox injury and if Bagley was a little further along I think they would be well over .500. And damn, Haliburton is tearing it up...

[smoothSeph]

Something tells me we're going to make a trade out of desperation to keep Beal happy.

I could see us making a trade of Brown or Bonga for a youngish center, but I wouldn't exactly call that a desperation trade. The team simply might believe that there isn't room on the roster for both Brown and Bonga over the long term, so we may as well use the asset to acquire a center to fill the vacuum left by Bryant.

I think it's a mistake to sell low on Brown when he has proven to be effective in the right system, but I could at least understand the logic of trading a redundant forward for a needed big.

Brown Jr for Collins.

If we could somehow pull that off Sheppard deserves GM of the year

[Ruzious]

Getting back to this no dunk rule for him in practice and the fact that he was sitting out games from day 1... I gotta ask - Was he damaged goods when the Wiz acquired him?

[Dat2U]

Getting back to this no dunk rule for him in practice and the fact that he was sitting out games from day 1... I gotta ask - Was he damaged goods when the Wiz acquired him?

Seems like it. Ted probably couldn't believe his luck. To have his guy Shepp pull of what appeared to be the steal of the century. A current ALL-NBA player and future HOF'er for a PG that threw more gang signs in one video than assists in the last two years. How could that not be a major win!? I bet they celebrated the deal big time. Shepp just dumped the guy he inadvertently pissed off, got a superstar name in return, basically cleaning up his own mess and it only took a heavily protected pick to do so.

They forgot however the grass is not always greener on the other side and they obviously did not watch ANY tape on Russ at the end of last season.

Its like every Grunfeld move. In a vacuum, you can defend the trade and it makes some sense before hand but it always ends up complete disaster in the long run.

[closg00]

Placate beal...lol. Beal is out of here by the trade deadline. This is a dumpster fire of a franchise...why would a player of Beal's calibre willingly waste a year of his prime tanking?

He's gone.

Super star players also talk to ea other about teaming-up, you can be sure that he has something in-mind, and a destination

[dlts20]

Honestly, we should fire Brooks, let pack coach the rest of the season, let Russ sit out as much as possible, play all the young guys major minutes, let Beal lead the league in scoring. Get a top notch coach and GM in the off season, get a top draft pick, have Russ and Beal healthy, all the young players will be much further advanced from all the playing time they got after Brooks left, and things will be looking up

[Silvie Lysandra]

Seems like it. Ted probably couldn't believe his luck. To have his guy Shepp pull of what appeared to be the steal of the century. A current ALL-NBA player and future HOF'er for a PG that threw more gang signs in one video than assists in the last two years. How could that not be a major win!? I bet they celebrated the deal big time. Shepp just dumped the guy he inadvertently pissed off, got a superstar name in return, basically cleaning up his own mess and it only took a heavily protected pick to do so.

The thing is that fast PGs, who make their money in the open court and getting to the rim, who blow their Achilles are usually washed. And its not like he wasn't on the wrong side of 30 to begin with, with a lot of mileage, just less than Westbrook. It was reasonable to assume that even if Russ was washed, he was less likely to be washed than John was. Sure John looked great in warm-ups, and it looked like he had his burst back. But you never know until you see them in actual games. Trading Wall + a pick that is pretty unlikely to convey for Westbrook, who did make All-NBA even if he was kind of declining, is a move that is 60-40 of working out, and of that 40, it's 80-20 that it's a wash (both of them suck). Westbrook being washed and Wall looking like an All-Star was the *least* likely outcome by far.

[Young gun 6]

No one else seems to have confirmed this at all yet.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Seems like it. Ted probably couldn't believe his luck. To have his guy Shepp pull of what appeared to be the steal of the century. A current ALL-NBA player and future HOF'er for a PG that threw more gang signs in one video than assists in the last two years. How could that not be a major win!? I bet they celebrated the deal big time. Shepp just dumped the guy he inadvertently pissed off, got a superstar name in return, basically cleaning up his own mess and it only took a heavily protected pick to do so.

The thing is that fast PGs, who make their money in the open court and getting to the rim, who blow their Achilles are usually washed. And its not like he wasn't on the wrong side of 30 to begin with, with a lot of mileage, just less than Westbrook. It was reasonable to assume that even if Russ was washed, he was less likely to be washed than John was. Sure John looked great in warm-ups, and it looked like he had his burst back. But you never know until you see them in actual games. Trading Wall + a pick that is pretty unlikely to convey for Westbrook, who did make All-NBA even if he was kind of declining, is a move that is 60-40 of working out, and of that 40, it's 80-20 that it's a wash (both of them suck). Westbrook being washed and Wall looking like an All-Star was the *least* likely outcome by far.

That’s exactly the outcome I expected. John worked his tail off and seemed to have fixed the biggest hole in his game - shooting. Westbrook has been completely empty stats for years.

[nate33]

I expect Wall to start fading by the middle of this season.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I expect Wall to start fading by the middle of this season.

He's already missing games due to a knee issue.

I believe its the beginning of the end of his career.

[Dat2U]

Something tells me we're going to make a trade out of desperation to keep Beal happy.

I could see us making a trade of Brown or Bonga for a youngish center, but I wouldn't exactly call that a desperation trade. The team simply might believe that there isn't room on the roster for both Brown and Bonga over the long term, so we may as well use the asset to acquire a center to fill the vacuum left by Bryant.

I think it's a mistake to sell low on Brown when he has proven to be effective in the right system, but I could at least understand the logic of trading a redundant forward for a needed big.

To sell low on someone would indicate there was once a "high". I don't think Troy's value has ever been high. He's been properly valued as a modestly talent wing who's still trying to prove himself as a rotation level player. The problems which had him as a mid-to-late 1st rounder still exist. He needs the ball in his hands and he's not a 3 and D guy. Its alot like Evan Turner where he's not good enough to be a lead ball handler but isn't versatile enough to fill a secondary role like an Iggy. It doesn't help that he still seems lost on defense either.

[TGW]

I expect Wall to start fading by the middle of this season.

He's already missing games due to a knee issue.

I believe its the beginning of the end of his career.

Wall is fine. There's no reason to play him big minutes at this point.

The guy who's at the end of his career is Cousins. He's done.

[nate33]

Something tells me we're going to make a trade out of desperation to keep Beal happy.

I could see us making a trade of Brown or Bonga for a youngish center, but I wouldn't exactly call that a desperation trade. The team simply might believe that there isn't room on the roster for both Brown and Bonga over the long term, so we may as well use the asset to acquire a center to fill the vacuum left by Bryant.

I think it's a mistake to sell low on Brown when he has proven to be effective in the right system, but I could at least understand the logic of trading a redundant forward for a needed big.

To sell low on someone would indicate there was once a "high". I don't think Troy's value has ever been high. He's been properly valued as a modestly talent wing who's still trying to prove himself as a rotation level player. The problems which had him as a mid-to-late 1st rounder still exist. He needs the ball in his hands and he's not a 3 and D guy. Its alot like Evan Turner where he's not good enough to be a lead ball handler but isn't versatile enough to fill a secondary role like an Iggy. It doesn't help that he still seems lost on defense either.

I think Brown's value was higher last year after the bubble than it is this year with him in Brooks' doghouse.

But I don't disagree with your Evan Turner analogy. Brown needs the ball in his hands, and at the moment, he isn't good enough with the ball in his hands to run an efficient offense. I think he is coming around on his 3 point shooting, but I'm not confident he will ever be a plus defender - good enough to be a 3&D starter.

[dlts20]

I expect Wall to start fading by the middle of this season.

He's already missing games due to a knee issue.

I believe its the beginning of the end of his career.

Wall is fine. There's no reason to play him big minutes at this point.

The guy who's at the end of his career is Cousins. He's done.

Can't judge cousins yet. He missed games due to contact tracing, has been ejected early twice, is a 6th man right now, and has hardly played any with harden or Wall. He looked very good in the preseason when he was starting with Wall.

I also think that Wall will be fine. It's typical to have some soreness from over compensation. I look forward to seeing both from here on

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

He's already missing games due to a knee issue.

I believe its the beginning of the end of his career.

Wall is fine. There's no reason to play him big minutes at this point.

The guy who's at the end of his career is Cousins. He's done.

Can't judge cousins yet. He missed games due to contact tracing, has been ejected early twice, is a 6th man right now, and has hardly played any with harden or Wall. He looked very good in the preseason when he was starting with Wall.

I also think that Wall will be fine. It's typical to have some soreness from over compensation. I look forward to seeing both from here on

Reminds me of when people didn’t think Arenas was done.

Time will tell.