pcbothwel wrote:TGW wrote:MDStar wrote:
As the old adage goes, a dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow. Based on our timeline and needs, even a bottom 4 1st in 26, is worth way more than a early-mid 2nd, in 27, 28 and 30.
This is pure bunk. Any GM with half a brain would prefer the SRPs (and Butler) over a pick in the late 20's. And #26 is like the best case scenario...it's probably going to be pick 30. So who in their right mind would give up that many SRPs and a good young player for pick 30?
Give me a break.
You have zero idea about what 2nds we traded. You’re clearly pissed off about management and your bias is clear. For all you know, we traded one of the many late seconds we have… (Denver/Suns/Warriors over the next three years).
Sure… If we traded any of our seconds/Chicago seconds in the next 2 to 3 years, then you may have an argument. Otherwise, the value is fine. Jackson makes the Vet Min, so it’s not like we took on any salary.
I agree w/both you and him.
I think combing through the threads reading over the past several months, TGW seems clearly unhappy with the trades, and with the draft selections, however, I really, really, really struggle to see any universe in which 4 2nd's for 1 late first really makes sense, especially when the 2nd's are likely to be top half of draft seconds in multiple instances.
Otoh, it seems pretty clear what they're process has been culminating in a trade like this: "lets accumulate a bazillion seconds down the road that people don't value, and then try to package them for firsts in good drafts coming up, right here and right now as we're trying to consolidate elite building block talent.
Is it that crazy? Not really. You simply don't have close to enough roster space at any time to accommodate so many 2nds, they're ammo in general to create flexibility for any kind of team building or finessing move you want.
So I get the process, but I do think it's too much. Otoh, it does seem like they're trying to max out the '25 and '26 drafts, and basically are seeing their '23-'27 picks as the roster building phase picks w/our tanking process, and '28-'30 assets seem to be seen as using other peoples assets to dip back into the draft through pick swaps and seconds to finesse out other needs on the roster.
I think it's totally reasonable to be upset by a trade like this. It's hard for me to imagine it's fair value. Otoh, it does seem to make sense for a team trying to max out going forward the '25, '26, and '27 draft classes, wouldn't surprise me if they tried to acquire more goodies for these classes to facilitate trade ups and what not.
Could turn out beautifully, but for now, just seems like more a team building strategy move, that cost too much to accomplish, but is also probably chairs on titanic irrelevant in terms of what those 2nds turn out to be (we hope anyway). Fascinating to watch what they're doing, I vaguely sense I get it, and more or less I like it (probably because self-interestedly, it matches my own thought process on what they should be doing (tanking last season, this season, and the following 2 seasons).
and all reason disappears from people not realizing that the differences between say the 11th and the 13th pick in rookie drafts is not that much, and largely nothing in RSO Contract Leagues.
