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Post#21 » by DukeLecker » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:52 am

Not to be too much of a cynic, but did a single transaction on the first day of free agency make any difference on any teams futures? Maybe if you squint and look at MPJr for Johnson, but that’s more addition by subtraction. Seems like a lot of money moved for fringe.
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Post#22 » by penbeast0 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 12:02 pm

gambitx777 wrote:Is our front office already on vaccination lol . I mean damn lol. I hope we can get a second out of a S&T for brogs lol .that be just free money.

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The only reason for anyone to do a sign and trade for Brogdon is because they need to dump contracts. If that's the case, I'm hoping we get more than just a second for the cap space depending on how bad the contract is coming in.
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Post#23 » by DCZards » Tue Jul 1, 2025 12:29 pm

DukeLecker wrote:Not to be too much of a cynic, but did a single transaction on the first day of free agency make any difference on any teams futures? Maybe if you squint and look at MPJr for Johnson, but that’s more addition by subtraction. Seems like a lot of money moved for fringe.
I like what Houston did…got better defensively with Capela and Finney-Smith after already adding KD for offense.
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Post#24 » by payitforward » Tue Jul 1, 2025 12:36 pm

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pcbothwel wrote:
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:I may be wrong but I can’t imagine the Wiz signing anyone. We already have our trade deadline sell off vets. And our roster is bloated.


We need a Center that can set picks and rebound. Im looking for Sharpe or Looney to help compliment Sarr and Vuk.

It depends whether or not they are intentionally leaving a hole at center to tank.

Also, if they do decide to fill that gap, they will probably be looking at a one-year signing. The quality free agents will want longer deals. We may just resign Richaun Holmes to a one year deal and maintain continuity.

By far the best idea, and he is still quite effective as he showed last season.
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Post#25 » by Rafael122 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 12:43 pm

DukeLecker wrote:Not to be too much of a cynic, but did a single transaction on the first day of free agency make any difference on any teams futures? Maybe if you squint and look at MPJr for Johnson, but that’s more addition by subtraction. Seems like a lot of money moved for fringe.


Bobby Marks posts those pics on Twitter about a team's current cap/salary situation and a lot of them are like "they're over the 1st apron with this team?" New Orleans for example, 5 million over the tax and they may not even be a play in team. Dallas is over the 1st apron, fringe playoff/play-in team at least next season.

On the flip side, love what Atlanta is doing. Even if it doesn't work out with KP, they'll be significantly under the tax next season. Denver is also another team that essentially found a sucker for MPJ's contract and have recalibrated their team.
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Post#27 » by nate33 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:05 pm

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gambitx777 wrote:Is our front office already on vaccination lol . I mean damn lol. I hope we can get a second out of a S&T for brogs lol .that be just free money.

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The only reason for anyone to do a sign and trade for Brogdon is because they need to dump contracts. If that's the case, I'm hoping we get more than just a second for the cap space depending on how bad the contract is coming in.

If someone believes they have to offer more than MLE money to get Brogdon, then it would make sense to arrange a S&T with Washington. I don't think that's the case with his injury history though.
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Post#28 » by nate33 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:13 pm

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DukeLecker wrote:Not to be too much of a cynic, but did a single transaction on the first day of free agency make any difference on any teams futures? Maybe if you squint and look at MPJr for Johnson, but that’s more addition by subtraction. Seems like a lot of money moved for fringe.
I like what Houston did…got better defensively with Capela and Finney-Smith after already adding KD for offense.

I thought it was insane for them to sign Capela. How many centers do they need? They already have Sengun and Adams. Now they add Capela, which means the only way they can all get enough minutes to earn their salary is if Sengun plays mostly at PF. But if Sengun is playing mostly at PF, how in the world will they find enough minutes for Jabari, Eason, Amen, Durant and DFS and forward? Even if they play Amen exclusively at guard, minutes are still going to be tight and they are going to struggle with outside shooting.

I just think they would have been much better off spending that Capela money on a guard like Landry Shamet, or even Malcolm Brodgon.
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Post#29 » by closg00 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:33 pm

Seeing the thumbnail with Ayton traumatized me
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Post#30 » by DukeLecker » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:49 pm

closg00 wrote:Seeing the thumbnail with Ayton traumatized me

I’d rather bring back Peter John Ramos as a back up center than Ayton.
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Post#31 » by gambitx777 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:39 pm

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DukeLecker wrote:Not to be too much of a cynic, but did a single transaction on the first day of free agency make any difference on any teams futures? Maybe if you squint and look at MPJr for Johnson, but that’s more addition by subtraction. Seems like a lot of money moved for fringe.
I like what Houston did…got better defensively with Capela and Finney-Smith after already adding KD for offense.

I thought it was insane for them to sign Capela. How many centers do they need? They already have Sengun and Adams. Now they add Capela, which means the only way they can all get enough minutes to earn their salary is if Sengun plays mostly at PF. But if Sengun is playing mostly at PF, how in the world will they find enough minutes for Jabari, Eason, Amen, Durant and DFS and forward? Even if they play Amen exclusively at guard, minutes are still going to be tight and they are going to struggle with outside shooting.

I just think they would have been much better off spending that Capela money on a guard like Landry Shamet, or even Malcolm Brodgon.
Well I guess the idea is to prepare for injury to the two best players you have ? Maybe?

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Post#32 » by gambitx777 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:48 pm

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gambitx777 wrote:Is our front office already on vaccination lol . I mean damn lol. I hope we can get a second out of a S&T for brogs lol .that be just free money.

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The only reason for anyone to do a sign and trade for Brogdon is because they need to dump contracts. If that's the case, I'm hoping we get more than just a second for the cap space depending on how bad the contract is coming in.
Well the word was sac. They have like 11 TPE. Now while you can use your mid levels and bis as TPEs you can't use your TPEs to sign free agents.

So let's say they use that mid level on Ayton or another big. Then they have a 16 mill a 5.8 a 4.7 and a 4.4 TPE. Any of those could absorb a brogdon sign and trade.

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Post#33 » by nate33 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:57 pm

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DCZards wrote:I like what Houston did…got better defensively with Capela and Finney-Smith after already adding KD for offense.

I thought it was insane for them to sign Capela. How many centers do they need? They already have Sengun and Adams. Now they add Capela, which means the only way they can all get enough minutes to earn their salary is if Sengun plays mostly at PF. But if Sengun is playing mostly at PF, how in the world will they find enough minutes for Jabari, Eason, Amen, Durant and DFS and forward? Even if they play Amen exclusively at guard, minutes are still going to be tight and they are going to struggle with outside shooting.

I just think they would have been much better off spending that Capela money on a guard like Landry Shamet, or even Malcolm Brodgon.
Well I guess the idea is to prepare for injury to the two best players you have ? Maybe?

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Great. They're 3-deep at center while they don't have a single SG on the roster.
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Post#34 » by Rafael122 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:58 pm

Capela would have made sense in Denver if you're having him just play like 15-18 minutes a game.
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Post#35 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:58 pm

DCZards wrote:
DukeLecker wrote:Not to be too much of a cynic, but did a single transaction on the first day of free agency make any difference on any teams futures? Maybe if you squint and look at MPJr for Johnson, but that’s more addition by subtraction. Seems like a lot of money moved for fringe.
I like what Houston did…got better defensively with Capela and Finney-Smith after already adding KD for offense.


Those are championship moves.

Without looking at the latest Vegas odds, my bet is on Houston to meet OKC in the WCF. Houston has enough pieces to take OKC.
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Post#36 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:09 pm

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DCZards wrote:I like what Houston did…got better defensively with Capela and Finney-Smith after already adding KD for offense.

I thought it was insane for them to sign Capela. How many centers do they need? They already have Sengun and Adams. Now they add Capela, which means the only way they can all get enough minutes to earn their salary is if Sengun plays mostly at PF. But if Sengun is playing mostly at PF, how in the world will they find enough minutes for Jabari, Eason, Amen, Durant and DFS and forward? Even if they play Amen exclusively at guard, minutes are still going to be tight and they are going to struggle with outside shooting.

I just think they would have been much better off spending that Capela money on a guard like Landry Shamet, or even Malcolm Brodgon.
Well I guess the idea is to prepare for injury to the two best players you have ? Maybe?

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nate33 wrote:I thought it was insane for them to sign Capela. How many centers do they need? They already have Sengun and Adams. Now they add Capela, which means the only way they can all get enough minutes to earn their salary is if Sengun plays mostly at PF. But if Sengun is playing mostly at PF, how in the world will they find enough minutes for Jabari, Eason, Amen, Durant and DFS and forward? Even if they play Amen exclusively at guard, minutes are still going to be tight and they are going to struggle with outside shooting.

I just think they would have been much better off spending that Capela money on a guard like Landry Shamet, or even Malcolm Brodgon.
Well I guess the idea is to prepare for injury to the two best players you have ? Maybe?

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Great. They're 3-deep at center while they don't have a single SG on the roster.
I know of a team that is six deep at SF and doesn't have one PF.

They are on rookie deals. Some guys don't find any playing time.
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Post#37 » by nate33 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:10 pm

Rafael122 wrote:Capela would have made sense in Denver if you're having him just play like 15-18 minutes a game.

I think Denver is better off spending their money on more wing help. Let's face it. In the playoffs, Jokic isn't going to sit much. With their cap situation, they can't afford to spend a lot of money on a guy who will play 10 playoff minutes a game. I'd rather spend it on wing depth. A backup forward for Cam Johnson and Aaron Gordon can still play 30 minutes.

For backup center, I'd just live with a vet-minimum guy, an Alex Len type.
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Post#38 » by nate33 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:12 pm

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nate33 wrote:I thought it was insane for them to sign Capela. How many centers do they need? They already have Sengun and Adams. Now they add Capela, which means the only way they can all get enough minutes to earn their salary is if Sengun plays mostly at PF. But if Sengun is playing mostly at PF, how in the world will they find enough minutes for Jabari, Eason, Amen, Durant and DFS and forward? Even if they play Amen exclusively at guard, minutes are still going to be tight and they are going to struggle with outside shooting.

I just think they would have been much better off spending that Capela money on a guard like Landry Shamet, or even Malcolm Brodgon.
Well I guess the idea is to prepare for injury to the two best players you have ? Maybe?

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gambitx777 wrote:Well I guess the idea is to prepare for injury to the two best players you have ? Maybe?

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Great. They're 3-deep at center while they don't have a single SG on the roster.
I know of a team that is six deep at SF and doesn't have one PF.

They are on rookie deals. Some guys don't find any playing time.

Positional redundancy at wing isn't nearly as big of an issue because a SF can slide up to SG or down to PF without too much trouble. Houston can't slide Steven Adams or Clint Capela over to forward.
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Post#39 » by DCZards » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:47 pm

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nate33 wrote:I thought it was insane for them to sign Capela. How many centers do they need? They already have Sengun and Adams. Now they add Capela, which means the only way they can all get enough minutes to earn their salary is if Sengun plays mostly at PF. But if Sengun is playing mostly at PF, how in the world will they find enough minutes for Jabari, Eason, Amen, Durant and DFS and forward? Even if they play Amen exclusively at guard, minutes are still going to be tight and they are going to struggle with outside shooting.

I just think they would have been much better off spending that Capela money on a guard like Landry Shamet, or even Malcolm Brodgon.
Well I guess the idea is to prepare for injury to the two best players you have ? Maybe?

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Great. They're 3-deep at center while they don't have a single SG on the roster.

Look for Reed Sheppard to get a lot of run at SG. A little small but, like you said, they don't have other options SG...and there may not have been a SG worth picking up in free agency.
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Post#40 » by gambitx777 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:09 pm

nate33 wrote:
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nate33 wrote:I thought it was insane for them to sign Capela. How many centers do they need? They already have Sengun and Adams. Now they add Capela, which means the only way they can all get enough minutes to earn their salary is if Sengun plays mostly at PF. But if Sengun is playing mostly at PF, how in the world will they find enough minutes for Jabari, Eason, Amen, Durant and DFS and forward? Even if they play Amen exclusively at guard, minutes are still going to be tight and they are going to struggle with outside shooting.

I just think they would have been much better off spending that Capela money on a guard like Landry Shamet, or even Malcolm Brodgon.
Well I guess the idea is to prepare for injury to the two best players you have ? Maybe?

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Great. They're 3-deep at center while they don't have a single SG on the roster.
I agree with you . I'm just trying to make sense of it lol
There might not be much sense there .

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