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Re: Javale McGee CAN Play 

Post#21 » by verbal8 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:03 pm

Turnover_21 wrote:Big McGee fan and wolves fan here. I'm really high on McGee's potential and think he would look great next to a skilled big like Love to the point that I would trade Big Al for him this offseason in a straight up swap! To me McGee looks like a cross between Howard and Camby in the future.

I think an offensive version of Camby would be the closest comparison. I don't think he will ever be as good a rebounder as Camby is. There is hope he could develop a little more of a post game than Camby.
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Re: Javale McGee CAN Play 

Post#22 » by NewWolvesOrder » Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:14 pm

verbal8 wrote:
Turnover_21 wrote:Big McGee fan and wolves fan here. I'm really high on McGee's potential and think he would look great next to a skilled big like Love to the point that I would trade Big Al for him this offseason in a straight up swap! To me McGee looks like a cross between Howard and Camby in the future.

I think an offensive version of Camby would be the closest comparison. I don't think he will ever be as good a rebounder as Camby is. There is hope he could develop a little more of a post game than Camby.


But shotblocking is there for him, If he manages to pack some meat on his bones he has a chance to become D12 lite with a jumper.

So how about that Big Al swap?
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Re: Javale McGee CAN Play 

Post#23 » by dobrojim » Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:25 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:If Flip had been playing this kid earlier things might have been better.

Not to be negative, though. Things are going to be SO MUCH MORE EXCITING to watch from here on out.


I kinda agree. The way I look at it, last night he went up against a top shelf
low post guy in AlJeff. He got seriously schooled by him most of the night.
So in that regard, he wasn't that effective/didn't really play well.

then you look at his statline - 7-10 for 14 pts, 11 brds (or was it 10?) and 5 blocks.
If he could shoot a FT (0-5), his statline would look that much better.

This is going to be more interesting to watch.

And that kid Blatche can kinda play too. Interesting that the TV
guys at one point said this is his team now. For one game, against
a really bad team, he was outstanding. After thinking I would sell
my tix to DEN on FRI night, I now don't think I will. I need a reality
check and DEN could be just the ticket for that.
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Re: Javale McGee CAN Play 

Post#24 » by verbal8 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:41 pm

dobrojim wrote:And that kid Blatche can kinda play too. Interesting that the TV
guys at one point said this is his team now. For one game, against
a really bad team, he was outstanding. After thinking I would sell
my tix to DEN on FRI night, I now don't think I will. I need a reality
check and DEN could be just the ticket for that.

Denver will be a great chance to see if Blatche and McGee are for real. I think what has everyone so excited is both of them playing well in the same game. I am not sure that has happened before.
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Re: Javale McGee CAN Play 

Post#25 » by nate33 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:41 pm

McGee for Love is much closer to working salary-wise. We'll throw in Nick young:

McGee + Young for Love
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Post#26 » by cdouglas » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:03 pm

I really liked Caron so please don't think this is hatred toward him. I wonder if the Wizards are going to win a championship within the next couple of years and here's why I'm saying this. Caron was traded to the Lakers and within 2 years, the Heat won a championship. Caron was traded from the Lakers to the Wizards and within 2 years the Lakers won a championship. I PRAY the same happens for the Wizards within 2 years. :D
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Post#27 » by montestewart » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:03 pm

All other considerations aside, I wouldn't want the Wizards to take on Jefferson's salary at this point.
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Post#28 » by cdouglas » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:20 pm

eltacoman wrote:We have entered the Mcgee Blatche ERA :D


This is too funny!! I was sorry to see Caron, Jamison, Haywood, and Stevenson leave but I'm excited about the future of this team. :D Better NOW than LATER!!
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Post#29 » by pancakes3 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:22 pm

I like mcgee, but i would rather trade him than raise him. A foye+mcgee for marc gasol? i'd be willing to go as far as mid lotto + mcgee for gasol

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Post#30 » by dobrojim » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:26 pm

Turnover_21 wrote:Big McGee fan and wolves fan here. I'm really high on McGee's potential and think he would look great next to a skilled big like Love to the point that I would trade Big Al for him this offseason in a straight up swap! To me McGee looks like a cross between Howard and Camby in the future.

Am I too high on Javale?


realistically yes.

but we can always hope

I've heard it said that you can't fix stupid.
While JM may be a smart guy off the court, it's clear
he hasn't figured out how to play - yet. If he does, he
could be a REAL MONSTER, maybe like your Camby/Howard
hybrid. But think of him with another 25-30 pounds and a notion
of how to play.

We simply HAVE to play him now and see how he does.
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Re: Javale McGee CAN Play 

Post#31 » by nate33 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:32 pm

pancakes3 wrote:I like mcgee, but i would rather trade him than raise him. A foye+mcgee for marc gasol? i'd be willing to go as far as mid lotto + mcgee for gasol

a gasol/blatche frontcourt would be supercalifragilisticespialadocious

No. You don't want that. Gasol is going to be a free agent in 2011. (He's restriced, so we'd likely retain him, but it might cost a lot.) I'd like to target him as a free agent acquisition, but I wouldn't trade a pick for him. I would certainly trade McGee though.
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Post#32 » by closg00 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:14 pm

Remember, McGee picked-up hoops late (soph year in HS ?) so he does have a ways to go.
Oh! The Denver game these youngs will get schooled.
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Post#33 » by nate33 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:17 pm

closg00 wrote:Remember, McGee picked-up hoops late (soph year in HS ?) so he does have a ways to go.
Oh! The Denver game these youngs will get schooled.

The kid's mother is a freakin professional basketball player. I don't think "coming late to the game" is an excuse. Clearly, he's been in the position to learn the game of basketball
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Re: Javale McGee CAN Play 

Post#34 » by montestewart » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:26 pm

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closg00 wrote:Remember, McGee picked-up hoops late (soph year in HS ?) so he does have a ways to go.
Oh! The Denver game these youngs will get schooled.

The kid's mother is a freakin professional basketball player. I don't think "coming late to the game" is an excuse. Clearly, he's been in the position to learn the game of basketball

Really, that's no excuse. Wasn't his father a ball player too? Maybe he just thinks that, with his parents, he already knows it all, which could be a big barrier to bust through. Maybe he could go to the Lakers and Kobe could show him how much there is to learn once you arrive in the NBA, even if basketball runs in your blood.
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Re: Javale McGee CAN Play 

Post#35 » by closg00 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:29 pm

^^^ So-what , his parents played ball, are Michael Jordan's kids NBA prospects? You don't learn basketball via osmosis.
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Post#36 » by montestewart » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:35 pm

closg00 wrote:^^^ So-what , his parents played ball, are Michael Jordan's kids NBA prospects? You don't learn basketball via osmosis.

Sure, but it's the concern that he's not learning. I say that knowing that the Wizards could have been doing more to teach him (more court time, mentoring, time in the d league, etc), but it's possible he's part of the problem.
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Post#37 » by Wizards2Lottery » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:47 pm

This is McGee's first season under a real coaching staff. Give the dude a break.
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Post#38 » by MF23 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:47 pm

The guy has gained a little mass and he still has a great motor. 2 things, I don't believe he was well coached until college and he needs to be willing to be a presence. Meaning be an active body on the boards and in the face of drivers and shooters. As far as coaching McGee will improve with Saunders as his coach. Saunders knows basketball and McGee seems like he'll listen.

He has ok hands and can shoot the ball. I’d like to see him focus on being a presence.
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Re: Javale McGee CAN Play 

Post#39 » by closg00 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:07 pm

montestewart wrote:
closg00 wrote:^^^ So-what , his parents played ball, are Michael Jordan's kids NBA prospects? You don't learn basketball via osmosis.

Sure, but it's the concern that he's not learning. I say that knowing that the Wizards could have been doing more to teach him (more court time, mentoring, time in the d league, etc), but it's possible he's part of the problem.


What problem? What do you mean, that he isn't Dwight Howard right out of college?

Some of you guys crack me up. JaVale McGee played 2 years of HS ball and 2 years college ball, THAT's IT. The Wizards don't have a big-man coach and they kept his ass on the bench for most of the year yet he is somehow supposed to be what at this point?
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Re: Javale McGee CAN Play 

Post#40 » by TheSecretWeapon » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:16 pm

The problem with McGee to this point in his career has been an unwillingness on his part to put in extra work. He doesn't have a ton of experience, fine -- he ought to be taking some responsibility and getting himself into the gym to work on his game. He can do some eye-popping things because he's a phenomenal athlete with incredible physical attributes. But he hasn't done the work to become a good player.

My hope is that as he gets minutes -- and he'll need to get significant minutes the rest of the way -- he'll figure out that he needs to do some work on his game if he wants to be a great player. Because I think the kid has All-NBA potential.
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