International Hoops thread

[dandridge 10]

Wow, nothing came good out of that scrimmage.

Wall and Beal looked pretty bad, and George sustained an effed up injury. I'm honestly pissed I watched it...such a downer of a game.

I thought Beal played ok, but Wall looked like the worse player out there.

[Kanyewest]

Wow, nothing came good out of that scrimmage.

Wall and Beal looked pretty bad, and George sustained an effed up injury. I'm honestly pissed I watched it...such a downer of a game.

Beal had 11 points in the game on 3-of-6 shooting, and also made five free throws.

[hands11]

Rose looked amazingly quick and strong. CHI is going to be though.

Harden was really effective.

Beal looked awesome like he belonged.

Plumlee... Impressive how fast he is for a big. But man, whats up with the FT form ?

Korver should make the team.

Parsons didnt look very good. KD was mostly costing.

Wall looked like he was focused on his role and strategy to make the team. Defense and passing. And much like we saw from him last year. He was over passing.

[TheBabyMaker]

Wow, nothing came good out of that scrimmage.

Wall and Beal looked pretty bad, and George sustained an effed up injury. I'm honestly pissed I watched it...such a downer of a game.

Beal looked bad dude whats wrong with you, John Wall ok. Sucks for PG and his injury that was brutal.

[Induveca]

Rose looked amazingly quick and strong. CHI is going to be though.

Harden was really effective.

Beal looked awesome like he belonged.

Plumlee... Impressive how fast he is for a big. But man, whats up with the FT form ?

Korver should make the team.

Parsons didnt look very good. KD was mostly costing.

Wall looked like he was focused on his role and strategy to make the team. Defense and passing. And much like we saw from him last year. He was over passing.

Yet another insightful, thoughtful post from Hands everyone.

[theboomking]

Wow, nothing came good out of that scrimmage.

Wall and Beal looked pretty bad, and George sustained an effed up injury. I'm honestly pissed I watched it...such a downer of a game.

Beal had 11 points in the game on 3-of-6 shooting, and also made five free throws.

What was Wall's stat line?

[stevemcqueen1]

Wow, nothing came good out of that scrimmage.

Wall and Beal looked pretty bad, and George sustained an effed up injury. I'm honestly pissed I watched it...such a downer of a game.

Beal had 11 points in the game on 3-of-6 shooting, and also made five free throws.

What was Wall's stat line?

I don't know, but it won't be pretty. Several of the good plays he made weren't finished and he had at least three or four bad turnovers to counter balance the good. He settled down in the third but he dug a hole in the first and second.

I don't remember much about him scoring, he wasn't aggressively searching for shots and seemed to let DeRozan and Hayward do a lot of the shot creation. He had a drive that he couldn't finish because the D at the rim was good. And he forced up a three around the five minute mark of the 3rd because he knew they were about to make subs. Steph Curry did the same thing immediately after and they called time out and put that fateful line up with Paul George in. Everything else I remember was him having to take the shot because the shot clock was about to run out. John wasn't really trying to score. I think he was trying to make things happen for the others to showcase his set up ability for the coaches, but couldn't find any sort of rhythm until that third quarter.

A set up man relies on his teammates to finish though. He's got a bit of a gripe though because he should have had at least four assists that his teammates couldn't convert. The first was an uncontested trailing three that he set up for Curry that should have been automatic but he just missed it. The second was an alley-oop that Davis stopped short on for some reason and Mason Plumlee ended up retrieving the pass and finishing it. The third and fourth were drive and dishes to an open Davis right at the basket where John pulled the second defender and Davis just flubbed the pass. Those should have been uncontested dunks. Davis wasn't really expecting to get the pass I think, they were tight windows John got the pass through. That chemistry and rhythm wasn't there between them. And also, Davis's hands didn't look good last night. He never got comfortable and had one of the worst games of anyone.

Davis usually has excellent hands and Curry and a lot of other guys usually shoot better than they did last night. Both teams shot poorly from range. John flat out lost the handle without being pressured at least once, and so did some others. I bet that ball was an issue. It was new and the FIBA balls are different. I bet it was really slippery and the players were having trouble catching and handling it.

I also thought Wall settled down on D eventually but he did get beat by Lillard on a drive and Lillard sank a mid range jumper in Wall's face that Wall was slow to contest IMO. You have to be on Lillard before the release. And there were two more instances in the third where Kyrie drove to the basket and Wall handed him off the Plumlee who rode him the rest of the way out of the lane. Kyrie ended up forcing up two contested shots on them. But the problem was Wall was left guarding Cousins and couldn't keep Cousins off the offensive glass. He got an easy put back and another rebound that led to Plumlee fouling him to prevent another easy put back. That kind of sequence won't work. Wall has got to either box Cousins out and try and get Cousins to foul him over the back. Or he's got to ride Kyrie further from the basket on the drive to give Plumlee room to stay on Cousins. Plumlee just couldn't keep either Cousins or Drummond off the offensive glass though. He couldn't handle their strength and size.

And there were probably two other times where Wall could have been more aggressive getting to the ball and gotten a pair of steals out of it. But instead he hung back and watched the play move away from him. On defense I want him hounding that ball when it's 50-50 or a transition situation because his role on the team requires him to be a disruptive defender that makes things happen.

But he did get at least one steal that I saw where he picked a pass to Cousins that led to a fast break opportunity. And he was also the only guard to look comfortable in the full court press that I remember. And he looked pretty comfortable on D in the third period and basically shut Kyrie Irving down. Lillard got the best of him though. I really think Lillard might have pulled ahead for that back up point guard spot. Lillard looked good on defense too.

[dckingsfan]

Get better quickly Paul George...

[JWizmentality]

I thought Beal played fine. Missed a couple open threes. Wall definitely wasn't looking to score and he was over passing...again.

[Ruzious]

Get better quickly Paul George...

Amen. Amazing that they're saying his physical recovery might be just 6 to 9 months. Apparently, there's no ligament damage - just bone damage.

[dckingsfan]

Get better quickly Paul George...

Amen. Amazing that they're saying his physical recovery might be just 6 to 9 months. Apparently, there's no ligament damage - just bone damage.

Which is an incredible blessing...

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

I thought Beal played fine. Missed a couple open threes. Wall definitely wasn't looking to score and he was over passing...again.

That's concerning, but there could be worse problems. But at this point after that PG injury I hope both our guys get cut...

[CobraCommander]

I thought our guys looked ok. Beal did what beal does- shoots great- wall did what wall does- over pass (occasionally)

The real question - in light of the PG injury- is there a maximum amount of full contact high level basketball that the human body can take. Not saying this was a stress injury but PG has been playing a ton of ball over the last couple years and you have to wonder if it slowly took its toll.

[pancakes3]

I thought our guys looked ok. Beal did what beal does- shoots great- wall did what wall does- over pass (occasionally)

The real question - in light of the PG injury- is there a maximum amount of full contact high level basketball that the human body can take. Not saying this was a stress injury but PG has been playing a ton of ball over the last couple years and you have to wonder if it slowly took its toll.

I don't think anyone has to wonder about this at all. It was just a freak injury.

[TGW]

I thought Beal played fine. Missed a couple open threes. Wall definitely wasn't looking to score and he was over passing...again.

That's why I said Beal had a bad game (ok....bad is probably over the top)—the missed open jumpshots infuriate me. It's like he needs a hand in his face to make a jumpshot.

If he wants to be the next Ray Allen, he needs to make open jumpshots like they're layups. That's his bread and butter.

[Kanyewest]

Wow, nothing came good out of that scrimmage.

Wall and Beal looked pretty bad, and George sustained an effed up injury. I'm honestly pissed I watched it...such a downer of a game.

Beal had 11 points in the game on 3-of-6 shooting, and also made five free throws.

What was Wall's stat line?

0 points, 4 turnovers, 3 assists, 1 block.

[Kanyewest]

I thought Beal played fine. Missed a couple open threes. Wall definitely wasn't looking to score and he was over passing...again.

That's why I said Beal had a bad game (ok....bad is probably over the top)—the missed open jumpshots infuriate me. It's like he needs a hand in his face to make a jumpshot.

If he wants to be the next Ray Allen, he needs to make open jumpshots like they're layups. That's his bread and butter.

I guess Beal didn't play well enough to lock down a spot but he did outplay guys like Curry and Lillard. With 11 points, Beal had more points than both of them. The only guys who scored more were Harden and DeRozan. Cousins also had 11 points and 11 rebounds. DeRoazan is a big one because that's a guy Beal is in direct competition with for making the team.

At 21, Beal is entering his 3rd year while at 21 Ray Allen was in his first season. Still, I'm not sure if Beal ever gets in echelon of guys like Ray Allen but at least he's on the right track.

[keynote]

Paul George has been the worst player on the floor tonight.

Oof. I assume this was written prior to the injury.

[stevemcqueen1]

Paul George has been the worst player on the floor tonight.

Oof. I assume this was written prior to the injury.

Yeah. He was playing terrible before he got injured. Wouldn't have mattered though, he was a sure bet to start at SF before he went down.

[mohammed10]

Amen. Amazing that they're saying his physical recovery might be just 6 to 9 months. Apparently, there's no ligament damage - just bone damage.

Agreed. But no ligaments in that part of the leg...