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Pistons vs Wizards--Tankalicious Delight

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Re: Pistons vs Wizards--Tankalicious Delight 

Post#201 » by Jay81 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:57 am

hey Ted...

we cant shoot and your GM drafted not 1, not 2 but 3 players who cant shoot in the last draft. Lets give him an extension
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Post#202 » by ST21 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:57 am

Jay81 wrote:John Wall is a disaster....he is painful to watch in a half court game. I hate to say this and I didnt want to believe it but K Irving is so much better.

I would trade Wall and our lottery pick(unless its #1) for Irving and Clevleands lottery pick


such a ridiculous comment. wall is so much better overall than kyrie.

he just lacks the clutch gene that kyrie has.
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Post#203 » by closg00 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:58 am

Singleton & Vesely, the Buzzkill twins. 7 points tonight between them.
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Post#204 » by Jay81 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:59 am

ST21 wrote:
Jay81 wrote:John Wall is a disaster....he is painful to watch in a half court game. I hate to say this and I didnt want to believe it but K Irving is so much better.

I would trade Wall and our lottery pick(unless its #1) for Irving and Clevleands lottery pick


such a ridiculous comment. wall is so much better overall than kyrie.

he just lacks the clutch gene that kyrie has.


really?

Kyrie is more clutch...better shooter..better handles...better passer...smarter..more skilled.....
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Post#205 » by hands11 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:00 am

Jay81 wrote:John Wall is a disaster....he is painful to watch in a half court game. I hate to say this and I didnt want to believe it but K Irving is so much better.

I would trade Wall and our lottery pick(unless its #1) for Irving and Clevleands lottery pick



Lol. I said that last draft.

But honestly, at this point, why would they do that ?
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Post#206 » by ST21 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:01 am

Jay81 wrote:
ST21 wrote:
Jay81 wrote:John Wall is a disaster....he is painful to watch in a half court game. I hate to say this and I didnt want to believe it but K Irving is so much better.

I would trade Wall and our lottery pick(unless its #1) for Irving and Clevleands lottery pick


such a ridiculous comment. wall is so much better overall than kyrie.

he just lacks the clutch gene that kyrie has.


really?

Kyrie is more clutch...better shooter..better handles...better passer...smarter..more skilled.....


better passer? how did you come to that conclusion? wall is a much better passer. it isn't even debatable. one guys averages 8 assists, one averages 5. with equal talent around them.

kyrie is more clutch, better shooter, that's about it.

wall rebounds, blocks shots and effects the game on both ends of the floor. overall a much more complete player and still a better pg imo.
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Re: Pistons vs Wizards--Tankalicious Delight 

Post#207 » by DallasShalDune » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:02 am

Jay81 wrote:
ST21 wrote:
Jay81 wrote:John Wall is a disaster....he is painful to watch in a half court game. I hate to say this and I didnt want to believe it but K Irving is so much better.

I would trade Wall and our lottery pick(unless its #1) for Irving and Clevleands lottery pick


such a ridiculous comment. wall is so much better overall than kyrie.

he just lacks the clutch gene that kyrie has.


really?

Kyrie is more clutch...better shooter..better handles...better passer...smarter..more skilled.....

Wall is actually the better passer, rebounder, speedster, and defender than Kyrie. They're about wash right now, with Kyrie having a more veteran and better team around him.
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Post#208 » by hands11 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:02 am

ST21 wrote:
Jay81 wrote:John Wall is a disaster....he is painful to watch in a half court game. I hate to say this and I didnt want to believe it but K Irving is so much better.

I would trade Wall and our lottery pick(unless its #1) for Irving and Clevleands lottery pick


such a ridiculous comment. wall is so much better overall than kyrie.

he just lacks the clutch gene that kyrie has.


Wall hasnt looked good in half court. He took off once Randy changed the offense to up tempo. Now they have Nene and they are running sets again. Wall is not going to light it up with that style. You need other players who can shoot for that to work.
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Post#209 » by TGW » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:02 am

Singleton had 1 point tonight. His counterpart had 18. I'd say that's was the biggest problem tonight.
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Post#210 » by truwizfan4evr » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:03 am

hands11 wrote:
Jay81 wrote:John Wall is a disaster....he is painful to watch in a half court game. I hate to say this and I didnt want to believe it but K Irving is so much better.

I would trade Wall and our lottery pick(unless its #1) for Irving and Clevleands lottery pick



Lol. I said that last draft.

But honestly, at this point, why would they do that ?

Trading wall would be so dumb.
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Re: Pistons vs Wizards--Tankalicious Delight 

Post#211 » by 7-Day Dray » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:04 am

Jay81 wrote:
ST21 wrote:
Jay81 wrote:John Wall is a disaster....he is painful to watch in a half court game. I hate to say this and I didnt want to believe it but K Irving is so much better.

I would trade Wall and our lottery pick(unless its #1) for Irving and Clevleands lottery pick


such a ridiculous comment. wall is so much better overall than kyrie.

he just lacks the clutch gene that kyrie has.


really?

Kyrie is more clutch...better shooter..better handles...better passer...smarter..more skilled.....


I agree with everything except Kyrie being a better passer.
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Post#212 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:10 am

nate33 wrote:The good news:

The D has been awesome since the trade.
Nene is clutch.
Seraphin continues to play well.
John Wall nearly had a triple double in a low scoring game.
We get more lotto balls. There's no way we'll catch Detroit now.
Losing a close game is better than being blown out.


This.

For most of each game Washington outplayed Indiana, Atlanta, and now Detroit in what turned out to be three losses.

The thing I noticed is the Wizards lost playing Wall, Crawford, Vesely, Singleton, Seraphin, and Mack big minutes. That is the way to lose, playing young players a lot of minutes.
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Re: Pistons vs Wizards--Tankalicious Delight 

Post#213 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:11 am

Three games in three nights = one deliciously refortified tank!

I was nervous for a moment there that Nene was going to samba his way to the seventh pick
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Post#214 » by hands11 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:11 am

Wall will be fine once they add a SF who can shoot.

Right now it looks extra bad because Wall lost the stroke he had found earlier this year. He got a lot better this year but he has more work to do on that J. When he has it going, it looks pretty good. He just has been shooting it so off balance lately. If Wall had a J tonight, they would have won. But they really really need shooting at the SF. Someone who can create and shoot. Hell, I would take just shooting at this point. Singleton is a back up role player, not a starter.

But KS is getting it rolling. He has come a long way this year and we have him two more years before we have to worry about anything.
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Post#215 » by FAH1223 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:14 am

When Big Ben Wallace was at the line, I knew he'd make one of two.

I was surprised by Nene's first man move against Wallace and even more surprised by the 2nd big time post move.

I KNEW Stucky would get the game winning dagger and had a great smile on my face when he made it. Pistons fans must be pissed.
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Post#216 » by hands11 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:19 am

Again, I would say EG blow the draft but that would assume they didnt want to tank again this year. If you wanted to, draft a project with upside who understands the game, plays D but has no shoot and a defensive specialist who who has the makings of a spot up game who will eventually come off the bench while going into a draft that was supposed to be deep.

If that was the plan, it is working pretty well.
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Post#217 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:20 am

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hands11 wrote:
Jay81 wrote:John Wall is a disaster....he is painful to watch in a half court game. I hate to say this and I didnt want to believe it but K Irving is so much better.

I would trade Wall and our lottery pick(unless its #1) for Irving and Clevleands lottery pick



Lol. I said that last draft.

But honestly, at this point, why would they do that ?

Trading wall would be so dumb.

Not if trading Wall got you the pick to draft Anthony Davis. If Charlotte gets the top overall pick, the Wizards would be foolish not to trade Wall for Augustine and the top pick.

Also, if you package Wall along with Blatche and Lewis there are a number of ways the Wizards could rebuild with all kinds of cap space. This team could theoretically sign-and-trade Deron Williams if and be waiting for Dwight Howard if it made the right kind of deal.

I don't know but that there aren't some feasible Wall trades.

None will happen, but I think it is never a bad thing to consider deals.
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Post#218 » by ST21 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:30 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Also, if you package Wall along with Blatche and Lewis there are a number of ways the Wizards could rebuild with all kinds of cap space. This team could theoretically sign-and-trade Deron Williams if and be waiting for Dwight Howard if it made the right kind of deal.

I don't know but that there aren't some feasible Wall trades.

None will happen, but I think it is never a bad thing to consider deals.


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Post#219 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:35 am

Bottom line is Wall is great overrated by you and 85-90% of Wizard fans, ST21, IMO.

I would trade him for the right deal, just like any other player.
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Post#220 » by truwizfan4evr » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:35 am

Ccj that be a big mistake for washington. John just 21 years old and improving. Even if we do not get Davis it's stil some solid player we can draft.
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