Bradley Beal - Part II

[AFM]

Glad we've got a glut of decent backup SGs.

[fishercob]

DC sports misery!!

[stevemcqueen1]

Gonna be real hard to replace Beal's production from 3. Even when he wasn't playing well overall, Beal was making his catch and shoot jumpers at an elite rate. Having that kind of reliability was a huge.

I'm scared of this turning into an injury that'll keep him out for much longer than the initial expectation, just like it did for Wall.

Hopefully Porter is ready to play soon and comes out strong for us.

[Ruzious]

Ernie traded up to get Rice. If they don't play Rice now, why did they trade up to get him? Let's see what he can do. I think the option is watching Temple play 40 minutes.

[stevemcqueen1]

Ernie traded up to get Rice. If they don't play Rice now, why did they trade up to get him? Let's see what he can do. I think the option is watching Temple play 40 minutes.

They're probably going to have to play Rice. Martell and Ariza will probably start now, figure they're going to get 35+ minutes. Will Ariza be capable of that?

It also really sucks that now we can't hide Maynor well any more. Both Temple and Rice are going to be needed to back up the SG and SF spots now. Temple at PG too is a lot of minutes for him. And now we can't run Maynor with Beal to lessen the damage the second line does.

I bet you're going to probably see a lot of funky line ups, where Wall plays with Maynor to coax any kind of production out of him.

Maybe we can ask the other team to cut 5 minutes off the end of the game like ODU's football coach asked UNC's last Saturday.

[Kanyewest]

Ernie traded up to get Rice. If they don't play Rice now, why did they trade up to get him? Let's see what he can do. I think the option is watching Temple play 40 minutes.

Because Ernie only only wanted to draft one 2nd rounder instead of two.

[Dat2U]

Fire Witt ASAP for playing this kid 42 minutes per game and let EG go after him for giving him Garrett Temple as his top back up. You have to f-ing kidding me. So now we'll play Wall 45 minutes and he'll take 30 shots a game. And he's playing with a bad back.

Unreal that he would play a 20-year old kid still growing that had health issues all of last. That's f-ing irresponsible.

I've never been of the opinion that extra minutes causes injuries. A game takes two full hours to play. Most players are actually running up and down the court for 34-36 minutes out of 120. Do you really believe an extra 4 minutes of game time over the course of 120 minutes is the make or break point for an injury?

Beal isn't hurt because he played 40 minutes per game. Beal is hurt because he, the coaching staff, and the medical staff aren't on the same page with respect to monitoring his health. If he was developing soreness, he should have said something. If he did say something, it should have been examined. If there was any tangible physical issue, Randy should have been notified and Beal should have sat out a couple of games. Somebody in that sequence dropped the ball. We don't know yet who.

I disagree strongly. If teams could get away with playing guys 42 minutes a night, we would see everyone do it. One game isn't that big a deal but playing heavy minutes game after game is a harsh grind that's going to have it's pitfalls. Playing 4 games in 5 days and playing 40+ minutes a night in each is like playing Russian Roulette with your prized assets.

It's why I feel it's only a matter of time before sh*t hits the fan. Guys (and not just Beal) are being run into the ground.

[Dat2U]

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‏@WizardsXTRA
Spoke to a source close to the situation and it sounds like Beal may be out for a couple of weeks. Not great news. #Wizards

Wow, just seeing this. Yep... Ernie will ALWAYS have his injury excuse. ALWAYS. Luck doesn't have one damn thing to do with it either. You run your guys into the ground long enough, at some point they'll start breaking down physically.

I guess this means a lot of Temple & Maynor which ultimately means more losses.

[payitforward]

... playing Russian Roulette with your prized assets.

This is why I keep saying the team needs to change its name back to the Bullets!

Guys (and not just Beal) are being run into the ground.

Yet, curiously, Ernie looks tanned and rested. Go figure....

[Ruzious]

Fire Witt ASAP for playing this kid 42 minutes per game and let EG go after him for giving him Garrett Temple as his top back up. You have to f-ing kidding me. So now we'll play Wall 45 minutes and he'll take 30 shots a game. And he's playing with a bad back.

Unreal that he would play a 20-year old kid still growing that had health issues all of last. That's f-ing irresponsible.

I've never been of the opinion that extra minutes causes injuries. A game takes two full hours to play. Most players are actually running up and down the court for 34-36 minutes out of 120. Do you really believe an extra 4 minutes of game time over the course of 120 minutes is the make or break point for an injury?

Beal isn't hurt because he played 40 minutes per game. Beal is hurt because he, the coaching staff, and the medical staff aren't on the same page with respect to monitoring his health. If he was developing soreness, he should have said something. If he did say something, it should have been examined. If there was any tangible physical issue, Randy should have been notified and Beal should have sat out a couple of games. Somebody in that sequence dropped the ball. We don't know yet who.

I disagree strongly. If teams could get away with playing guys 42 minutes a night, we would see everyone do it. One game isn't that big a deal but playing heavy minutes game after game is a harsh grind that's going to have it's pitfalls. Playing 4 games in 5 days and playing 40+ minutes a night in each is like playing Russian Roulette with your prized assets.

It's why I feel it's only a matter of time before sh*t hits the fan. Guys (and not just Beal) are being run into the ground.

I gotta agree with Dat on that - and I think San Antonio does, as well. Those extra 4 minutes of start and stop on a dime action would be when the player is most tired. When you're tired, you're far more likely to take a false step and get injured. And the accumulated pounding makes a difference - especially when you're playing with various aches that come with the job. Minor issues become more serious.

[nate33]

I've never been of the opinion that extra minutes causes injuries. A game takes two full hours to play. Most players are actually running up and down the court for 34-36 minutes out of 120. Do you really believe an extra 4 minutes of game time over the course of 120 minutes is the make or break point for an injury?

Beal isn't hurt because he played 40 minutes per game. Beal is hurt because he, the coaching staff, and the medical staff aren't on the same page with respect to monitoring his health. If he was developing soreness, he should have said something. If he did say something, it should have been examined. If there was any tangible physical issue, Randy should have been notified and Beal should have sat out a couple of games. Somebody in that sequence dropped the ball. We don't know yet who.

I disagree strongly. If teams could get away with playing guys 42 minutes a night, we would see everyone do it. One game isn't that big a deal but playing heavy minutes game after game is a harsh grind that's going to have it's pitfalls. Playing 4 games in 5 days and playing 40+ minutes a night in each is like playing Russian Roulette with your prized assets.

It's why I feel it's only a matter of time before sh*t hits the fan. Guys (and not just Beal) are being run into the ground.

I think players don't play 42 minutes a night because of fatigue, not injury. A fresh player off the bench is typically better than an extremely tired starter.

More minutes may cause slightly more injury simply because there's always a X% change of getting injured per minute you are on the court. More minutes equals more chances of injury. But I'd like to see some statistical proof that playing minutes in the 37-40 range brings on a disproportionately higher rate of injuries than playing 32-36 minutes.

[queridiculo]

Turns out people were rightfully worried about Beals minutes.

Playing 40 minutes is one thing, doing so after a season ending stress fracture that had you out of action until training camp started a completely different one.

Was to be expected though, until Leonsis decides to run a first class organization Washington is going to continue having those kind of issues.

I never quite understood how it's possible for somebody to make such a huge investment only to be negligent in taking the best possible care of protecting those assets.

[Ironpanthr]

Sure would've been nice if we had kept Shannon Brown for some backcourt depth instead of holding on to Singleton for who knows what reason.

[FAH1223]

WizardsXTRA
‏@WizardsXTRA
Spoke to a source close to the situation and it sounds like Beal may be out for a couple of weeks. Not great news. #Wizards

Wow, just seeing this. Yep... Ernie will ALWAYS have his injury excuse. ALWAYS. Luck doesn't have one damn thing to do with it either. You run your guys into the ground long enough, at some point they'll start breaking down physically.

I guess this means a lot of Temple & Maynor which ultimately means more losses.

One more step to getting Ernie canned

[J-Ves]

Long term this is a terrible injury considering it's the same problem as last year. You have to wonder if this will be constant problem for his entire career and if he will have the dreaded "injury prone" label from now on.

But short term, I don't see this as THAT bad an injury. So far this year Beal has scored 20 ppg with very middling efficiency, both Webster and Ariza have scored with higher TS% on the season. My guess is Temple will start, but Webster will get the bulk of the minutes at SG off the bench.

Looking at this season in a vacuum, Wall is the player we can't afford to lose with Nene in second. Gortat, Webster, Ariza, and Beal are tied for third tier, IMO.


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[kirubel94]

Would be ecstatic if Beal only sat out for a couple of weeks. Remember when Otto was listed "day-to-day."

[mhd]

With Ariza back today, just play Webster as the SG.

[jeffsays]

Long term this is a terrible injury considering it's the same problem as last year. You have to wonder if this will be constant problem for his entire career and if he will have the dreaded "injury prone" label from now on.

But short term, I don't see this as THAT bad an injury. So far this year Beal has scored 20 ppg with very middling efficiency, both Webster and Ariza have scored with higher TS% on the season. My guess is Temple will start, but Webster will get the bulk of the minutes at SG off the bench.

Looking at this season in a vacuum, Wall is the player we can't afford to lose with Nene in second. Gortat, Webster, Ariza, and Beal are tied for third tier, IMO.


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If it is a short term injury then I'm not so worried about it. Wall, Nene, and Gortat are the pieces that we can't afford to lose for an extended amount of time. Webster and GRJR can split minutes at SG and still produce, well at least Webster can. Hopefully he heals up quickly.

[Spence]

With Ariza back today, just play Webster as the SG.

Then you've really got no bench. I think they'll move Garrett Temple into the starting lineup and have Webster coming off the bench.

[fishercob]

With Ariza back today, just play Webster as the SG.

Then you've really got no bench. I think they'll move Garrett Temple into the starting lineup and have Webster coming off the bench.

No matter what you're robbing Peter to pay Paul. You can move the pieces around any way you want and you will still come to the same sobering conclusion -- the Wizards have no depth. None.