Official Trade Thread - Part XXV

[nuposse04]

Not sure what is going on in memphis but I wonder if they'd go for:

Gortat+Porter+Jan+'14 2nd for Gasol+Ed Davis

Nah, too much to give up for Gasol IMO. I'd rather just keep Porter and re-sign Gortat. Maybe if you made it a 3-way where another team gave us something else of value.

Gasol is considerably better then anyone in the trade. I honestly think he'd be the perfect center to put in this team with his superior shooting and passing ability. ed davis hasn't really worked well in memphis (I thought he was promising in TOR), maybe he'd function better here.

[jivelikenice]

Memphis could be a spot to get some bench depth. How about Bayless? He's an expiring and fills the combo guard role...

[tontoz]

Would Houston consider Asik for Ariza, assuming Ariza agreed to resign with them? Ariza is unlikely to command much more than he is making, and his skillset would complement Harden/Howard. I assume Parsons could be a stretch 4 as could Ariza.

Edit: just found the answer to my question. No. They are clearing capspace for 2015. The only guys they have under contract for that season are Harden and Howard.

[TGW]

I'm thinking a three way where we get Asik and Montejiunas, the Nets get Nene, and the Rockets get KG.

I know we already have Gortat, but we have no idea what his plans are this summer and Asik is signed to a relatively cheap contract for another 2 years.

[TGW]

Also, here is a rumor on ESPN's inRumor section that Gortat may be on the trading block. Maybe he goes in a trade for Asik?

[Nivek]

Two different GMs but both dumb moves. I don't understand why they are shopping Faried. And i definitely didn't understand why they gave McGee such a big deal.

In fairness to the Denver GM (who was hired from the Wizards organization this offseason), Wojo tweeted that the "shopping" of Faried amounted to the Knicks calling and offering a Shumpert for Faried trade, which Denver rejected.

Yes, that's fair -- but has he made a good move so far?

Not that I can think of.

[Wizardspride]

Also, here is a rumor on ESPN's inRumor section that Gortat may be on the trading block. Maybe he goes in a trade for Asik?

Already?

[jivelikenice]

Probably just speculation on what could transpire if things don't improve. I do think an Asik for Gortat trade makes sense, but only if we get another asset in return. You can argue who the better player is but Asik's balloon payment next year is not easy to swallow. This trade gives them a viable replacement for Asik who is also an expiring.

[nate33]

Probably just speculation on what could transpire if things don't improve. I do think an Asik for Gortat trade makes sense, but only if we get another asset in return. You can argue who the better player is but Asik's balloon payment next year is not easy to swallow. This trade gives them a viable replacement for Asik who is also an expiring.

I'd do it straight up. Don't need an asset in return. That balloon payment is in real money, but not in cap dollars so it doesn't hurt us from a team-building perspective. Also, Asik is 2.5 years younger than Gortat, and he's an iron man who has never missed a game.

Asik is a dominant rebounder who would let us get away with playing small ball. Nene backs him up at center and plays some PF alongside him. The rest of the PF minutes would go to Ariza and Porter. No more Ernie's Kids in the lineup.

[nate33]

I'm thinking a three way where we get Asik and Montejiunas, the Nets get Nene, and the Rockets get KG.

I don't really see the incentive for the Nets. The only advantage Nene has over KG is that he can play some center, but the Nets already have Lopez there.

As much as I'd like to see it, I don't think it's possible to turn Nene into Asik. There's no 3rd party that would make it work. We're not giving enough value.

I think it has to be Gortat for Asik. The value is even so there might be a 3rd party who could make it work (assuming that Houston doesn't want Gortat themselves).

[nate33]

If we continue to suck and end up going into tank mode, I'd love to see a Nene for Perkins + Adams trade.

[Upper Decker]

I highly doubt okc trades Adams.

[cdouglas]

Ariza and Vesley for Asik.

[nate33]

Ariza and Vesley for Asik.

It looks good on paper, but Houston fans all HATE Ariza. He really rubbed people the wrong way in his last stint there. He was much more of a chucker because that team lacked anyone who could create offense. To hear a Houston fan tell it, there is no chance that Houston ever reacquires Ariza.

[NortheastWiz]

NeNe + 2nd Round for Omer Asik.

[dckingsfan]

Since Asik is on the block - I thought I would ask the question: which teams are most in need of a C?

I would say, Atlanta, Charlotte, Boston, New York, New Orleans, Sacramento and Washington.

Of those teams, which have the best assets for Houston? I would say that Houston's biggest need is for a defensive rebounding stretch 4.

[FAH1223]

New Orleans can dangle Ryan Anderson.

[verbal8]

Since Asik is on the block - I thought I would ask the question: which teams are most in need of a C?

I would say, Atlanta, Charlotte, Boston, New York, New Orleans, Sacramento and Washington.

Of those teams, which have the best assets for Houston? I would say that Houston's biggest need is for a defensive rebounding stretch 4.

I think Denver offers a very interesting 3rd option for an Ariza-Asik deal. They have a TPE that can acquire Ariza and they want to move Faried, who I think would be a great option for the Rockets. I think the Rockets have to send an asset to the Nuggets to make it happen(but they have some young cheap talent that should have good trade value). While Faried and Dwight in the frontcourt rotation have spacing issues if playing together, I think they also represent match-up issues for the other team - especially considering the options Houston has like Parsons and Motiejunas that can help spread the floor.

[jivelikenice]

Probably just speculation on what could transpire if things don't improve. I do think an Asik for Gortat trade makes sense, but only if we get another asset in return. You can argue who the better player is but Asik's balloon payment next year is not easy to swallow. This trade gives them a viable replacement for Asik who is also an expiring.

I'd do it straight up. Don't need an asset in return. That balloon payment is in real money, but not in cap dollars so it doesn't hurt us from a team-building perspective. Also, Asik is 2.5 years younger than Gortat, and he's an iron man who has never missed a game.

Asik is a dominant rebounder who would let us get away with playing small ball. Nene backs him up at center and plays some PF alongside him. The rest of the PF minutes would go to Ariza and Porter. No more Ernie's Kids in the lineup.

I tend to agree. The roster is flawed fundamentally of because Nene's insistence to play the 4. If you play him there, you need another big which leads to the spacing issues. If we ever really want to play small ball w/o sacrifcing rebounding, we need a guy like Asik. If this doesn't turn around in the near future the only focus the Fo should have the rest of the year is moving Nene. Until he is moved there will always be a conflict in terms of how we should play and what we could do based on personnel.

[dckingsfan]

New Orleans can dangle Ryan Anderson.

And the salaries would match up, but, "Anderson broke his toe right before the start of the regular season. The initial diagnosis was a one-to-three week recovery time, and the big man is still not ready to return to the court."