Political Roundtable Part XVI

[stilldropin20]

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Sebastian Gorka, former Trump adviser with ties to the alt-right.

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Bill O'Reilly....'nuff said.

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Name literally says "TrumpSoldier"

btw, love me some Harris Faulkner!! amazing journalist. amazing woman!

Harris Faulkner...

So in essence you guys are being extremely judgemental and lumping and conservatives as a whole or the conservative platform as a whole with the extremely rare minority of white supremacist and racists. That's just flat out sad.

As a true independent I can't say how happy I am to be in neither of those categories.

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Why not just say you're a conservative instead of hiding behind a label of "independent"?

no way brah, i just cant go for that. no siree bob. uh uh. No can do. my vote means too too much to me, brah. Vote is not for sale to either libs or conservs. they gotta earn my midwestern, hard working, self employed vote. right now I am diggin the GOP/Trump platform. so they got my support for now.

BTW, why you giving Harris a hard time> she is one of the best hosts on political TV. if not the best.

[montestewart]

not defending moore. dont like him. but why!!!!??

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So she was stealing signs? I don't understand.

oh golly. aww shucks. i dunno. like maybe she is partisan and motivated or something? kinda like the entire steele dossier. the entire thing was bought and paid for. Getting paid to say certain things...like i dunno...it just might make one question the credibility. maaaaaaaaybe? yeah i'm pretty pretty prety pretty sure it might even raise some liberal eyebrows.

by the way. did you guys see this? some socialist far left wing wack job attacked Rand Paul while he was cutting his grass. Libs have gone fully unhinged. so angry. so mean. causing violence everywhere and anywhere. attacking private property all over the UNited states for the last 5-6 years. crazy trend going on. all in the name of the resistance, i guess?

Re Rand Paul, he was attacked by his neighbor in their well-to-do gated community. There was initially implications that it was over a property line dispute, but now neither side appears to be offering any explanation at all, which leads me to believe a different kind of property may be involved.

Do you get your news solely from Breitbart, Fox and fantasy worlds? Trying to understand your knowledge and facts gap.

[Rich Rane]

no way brah, i just cant go for that. no siree bob. uh uh. No can do. my vote means too too much to me, brah. Vote is not for sale to either libs or conservs. they gotta earn my midwestern, hard working, self employed vote. right now I am diggin the GOP/Trump platform. so they got my support for now.

You support the GOP/Trump platform and you get your information from conservative, in some cases very conservative, sources. You know what they call that? Being a conservative. Yet for some reason, you have to reason your conservative views to others as being "independent". It's nearly as eye-rolling as closet racists excusing their words or actions by telling everyone "I'm not racist, my best friend is black." I mean, it's certainly possible at one time you were someone like Tom Coyne, a liberal and then an independent, but finally made a full jump to being a conservative, particularly when Trump came along. In the end though, you both are conservatives.

BTW, why you giving Harris a hard time> she is one of the best hosts on political TV. if not the best.

Anyone that tried to reason Trump's words (immediate or his mulligan speech) after Charlottesville has lost credibility with me. Funny thing, I guess I'm not at all into the whole tiki torch wielding, anti-Semitic chanting, firearm carrying, American death supporting Nazis and people who equate those Nazis to...people who hate tiki torch wielding, anti-Semitic chanting, firearm carrying, American death supporting Nazis.

[stilldropin20]

no way brah, i just cant go for that. no siree bob. uh uh. No can do. my vote means too too much to me, brah. Vote is not for sale to either libs or conservs. they gotta earn my midwestern, hard working, self employed vote. right now I am diggin the GOP/Trump platform. so they got my support for now.

You support the GOP/Trump platform and you get your information from conservative, in some cases very conservative, sources. You know what they call that? Being a conservative. Yet for some reason, you have to reason your conservative views to others as being "independent". It's nearly as eye-rolling as closet racists excusing their words or actions by telling everyone "I'm not racist, my best friend is black." I mean, it's certainly possible at one time you were someone like Tom Coyne, a liberal and then an independent, but finally made a full jump to being a conservative, particularly when Trump came along. In the end though, you both are conservatives.

BTW, why you giving Harris a hard time> she is one of the best hosts on political TV. if not the best.

Anyone that tried to reason Trump's words (immediate or his mulligan speech) after Charlottesville has lost credibility with me. Funny thing, I guess I'm not at all into the whole tiki torch wielding, anti-Semitic chanting, firearm carrying, American death supporting Nazis and people who equate those Nazis to...people who hate tiki torch wielding, anti-Semitic chanting, firearm carrying, American death supporting Nazis.

You're comparison is a complete farce. fox is none of those things and neither is Faulkner. I'm not even sure you are comparing the made up people in your post to Fox for harris. But she's as level headed and as smart as they come.

and lumping firearm carrying people with Nazis? Grotesque. You have a lot of learning to do about people. Go get out of your box. what is it 3 blocks long? The United States is a big country. go get to know some folks.

[stilldropin20]

So she was stealing signs? I don't understand.

oh golly. aww shucks. i dunno. like maybe she is partisan and motivated or something? kinda like the entire steele dossier. the entire thing was bought and paid for. Getting paid to say certain things...like i dunno...it just might make one question the credibility. maaaaaaaaybe? yeah i'm pretty pretty prety pretty sure it might even raise some liberal eyebrows.

by the way. did you guys see this? some socialist far left wing wack job attacked Rand Paul while he was cutting his grass. Libs have gone fully unhinged. so angry. so mean. causing violence everywhere and anywhere. attacking private property all over the UNited states for the last 5-6 years. crazy trend going on. all in the name of the resistance, i guess?

Re Rand Paul, he was attacked by his neighbor in their well-to-do gated community. There was initially implications that it was over a property line dispute, but now neither side appears to be offering any explanation at all, which leads me to believe a different kind of property may be involved.

Do you get your news solely from Breitbart, Fox and fantasy worlds? Trying to understand your knowledge and facts gap.

yeah, i noticed that too. Was Rand Paul literally or figuratively mowing the bushes of his neighbor? news story just died. and rand Paul fanboy Shep Smith did a full story on the story just dying.

To me, Rand Paul is just another high-tailing, show boating, obstructionist republican like Mccain so i'm gonna have to laugh a little if there is "more there" to this one.

[stilldropin20]

no way brah, i just cant go for that. no siree bob. uh uh. No can do. my vote means too too much to me, brah. Vote is not for sale to either libs or conservs. they gotta earn my midwestern, hard working, self employed vote. right now I am diggin the GOP/Trump platform. so they got my support for now.

You support the GOP/Trump platform and you get your information from conservative, in some cases very conservative, sources. You know what they call that? Being a conservative. Yet for some reason, you have to reason your conservative views to others as being "independent". It's nearly as eye-rolling as closet racists excusing their words or actions by telling everyone "I'm not racist, my best friend is black." I mean, it's certainly possible at one time you were someone like Tom Coyne, a liberal and then an independent, but finally made a full jump to being a conservative, particularly when Trump came along. In the end though, you both are conservatives.

BTW, why you giving Harris a hard time> she is one of the best hosts on political TV. if not the best.

Anyone that tried to reason Trump's words (immediate or his mulligan speech) after Charlottesville has lost credibility with me. Funny thing, I guess I'm not at all into the whole tiki torch wielding, anti-Semitic chanting, firearm carrying, American death supporting Nazis and people who equate those Nazis to...people who hate tiki torch wielding, anti-Semitic chanting, firearm carrying, American death supporting Nazis.

You're comparison is a complete farce. fox is none of those things and neither is Faulkner. I'm not even sure you are comparing the made up people in your post to Fox for harris. But she's as level headed and as smart as they come.

and lumping firearm carrying people with Nazis? Grotesque. You have a lot of learning to do about people. Go get out of your box. what is it 3 blocks long? The United States is a big country. go get to know some folks.

adding: this particular "roundtable" is about 90% liberal. You just made it 92%. plain jane,vanilla box, weekend warrior, social justice crusaders that move no needles. non compelling liberals. so even though everyone is "represented." Conservative viewpoints are attacked relentlessly. So i am "forced, almost" to mostly push the conservative point of view if for nothing more than the appearance of being fair and balanced. If you read the entire previous thread, you would find that I have the most liberal and radical positions on here. needle movers!

[stilldropin20]

only "news" station that will send out a beautiful and loving message like this right now. Fox. "so won't you listen to what the (wo)man said! She said..."

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/11/11/martin-luther-kings-niece-alveda-king-scrapping-racist-national-anthem-its-not-song-flag

then after you listen to alveda king wax some poetic give this a try.

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[Rich Rane]

You're comparison is a complete farce. fox is none of those things and neither is Faulkner.

Fox News and Faulkner are not what? Not conservative?

and lumping firearm carrying people with Nazis? Grotesque.

Admittedly, I did lump firearm carrying people with Christopher Cantwell and Richard Wilson Preston. I mean, is it really that much of a stretch to believe there weren't others like them at Charlottesville?

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You have a lot of learning to do about people. Go get out of your box. what is it 3 blocks long? The United States is a big country. go get to know some folks.

I do...every single weekday. My job requires it. I fly on average 30,000 domestic miles (just a little bit longer than 3 blocks long) a year meeting new people, even to deep red states in the Bible Belt and the Great Plains. How big is your box?

adding: this particular "roundtable" is about 90% liberal. You just made it 92%. plain jane,vanilla box, weekend warrior, social justice crusaders that move no needles. non compelling liberals. so even though everyone is "represented." Conservative viewpoints are attacked relentlessly. So i am "forced, almost" to mostly push the conservative point of view if for nothing more than the appearance of being fair and balanced. If you read the entire previous thread, you would find that I have the most liberal and radical positions on here. needle movers!

Yes, you're not a closet conservative. You have the most liberal and radical positions here, stilldropin20. You have the most liberal and radical positions the likes of which the world has never seen before! You know words, you have the best words! Big league!

[JWizmentality]

^^^ Stop wasting your time Rich. He's a liar and a joke.

[stilldropin20]

this is well written by a 1st generation American muslim.


http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/11/social-justice-activism-become-just-another-fashion-accessory/

The "roundtable" here kinda feels like some of your guys' version of social media. I wonder what you guys really do to make the world a better place. because your words in this thread all boil down to: resist, resist, resist. That's it. thats all you guys got to show yourselves. You guys dont even have a picture of yourselves in a downtrodden part of the world holding up a baby. me, i really did and do regularly write off $350K. Whoever wants to come volunteer in chicago and help real people, let me know. I wont hold my breath.

[stilldropin20]

You're comparison is a complete farce. fox is none of those things and neither is Faulkner.

Fox News and Faulkner are not what? Not conservative?

and lumping firearm carrying people with Nazis? Grotesque.

Admittedly, I did lump firearm carrying people with Christopher Cantwell and Richard Wilson Preston. I mean, is it really that much of a stretch to believe there weren't others like them at Charlottesville?

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You have a lot of learning to do about people. Go get out of your box. what is it 3 blocks long? The United States is a big country. go get to know some folks.

I do...every single weekday. My job requires it. I fly on average 30,000 domestic miles (just a little bit longer than 3 blocks long) a year meeting new people, even to deep red states in the Bible Belt and the Great Plains. How big is your box?

adding: this particular "roundtable" is about 90% liberal. You just made it 92%. plain jane,vanilla box, weekend warrior, social justice crusaders that move no needles. non compelling liberals. so even though everyone is "represented." Conservative viewpoints are attacked relentlessly. So i am "forced, almost" to mostly push the conservative point of view if for nothing more than the appearance of being fair and balanced. If you read the entire previous thread, you would find that I have the most liberal and radical positions on here. needle movers!

Yes, you're not a closet conservative. You have the most liberal and radical positions here, stilldropin20. You have the most liberal and radical positions the likes of which the world has never seen before! You know words, you have the best words! Big league!

let me get this straight, Rich Rane. You are calling everyone in the United States with a FOID card and/or a concealed and carry permit and Nazi and white supremacist? And 3 others And1 that post? cammac, JWiz, and Wizardspride? Have you guys lost your minds?

[Wizardspride]

You're comparison is a complete farce. fox is none of those things and neither is Faulkner.

Fox News and Faulkner are not what? Not conservative?

and lumping firearm carrying people with Nazis? Grotesque.

Admittedly, I did lump firearm carrying people with Christopher Cantwell and Richard Wilson Preston. I mean, is it really that much of a stretch to believe there weren't others like them at Charlottesville?

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You have a lot of learning to do about people. Go get out of your box. what is it 3 blocks long? The United States is a big country. go get to know some folks.

I do...every single weekday. My job requires it. I fly on average 30,000 domestic miles (just a little bit longer than 3 blocks long) a year meeting new people, even to deep red states in the Bible Belt and the Great Plains. How big is your box?

adding: this particular "roundtable" is about 90% liberal. You just made it 92%. plain jane,vanilla box, weekend warrior, social justice crusaders that move no needles. non compelling liberals. so even though everyone is "represented." Conservative viewpoints are attacked relentlessly. So i am "forced, almost" to mostly push the conservative point of view if for nothing more than the appearance of being fair and balanced. If you read the entire previous thread, you would find that I have the most liberal and radical positions on here. needle movers!

Yes, you're not a closet conservative. You have the most liberal and radical positions here, stilldropin20. You have the most liberal and radical positions the likes of which the world has never seen before! You know words, you have the best words! Big league!

let me get this straight, Rich Rane. You are calling everyone in the United States with a FOID card and/or a concealed and carry permit and Nazi and white supremacist? And 3 others And1 that post? cammac, JWiz, and Wizardspride? Have you guys lost your minds?

Go back and read his post again.

There were other things in his response.

[DCZards]

this is well written by a 1st generation American muslim.


http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/11/social-justice-activism-become-just-another-fashion-accessory/

The "roundtable" here kinda feels like some of your guys' version of social media. I wonder what you guys really do to make the world a better place. because your words in this thread all boil down to: resist, resist, resist. That's it. thats all you guys got to show yourselves. You guys dont even have a picture of yourselves in a downtrodden part of the world holding up a baby. me, i really did and do regularly write off $350K. Whoever wants to come volunteer in chicago and help real people, let me know. I wont hold my breath.

SD20, you often sound as arrogant, as narcissistic and as elitist as your hero DT.

I'm willing to bet that the liberals/progressives on this board have done more for the common good than you and #45 put together.

[stilldropin20]

this is well written by a 1st generation American muslim.


http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/11/social-justice-activism-become-just-another-fashion-accessory/

The "roundtable" here kinda feels like some of your guys' version of social media. I wonder what you guys really do to make the world a better place. because your words in this thread all boil down to: resist, resist, resist. That's it. thats all you guys got to show yourselves. You guys dont even have a picture of yourselves in a downtrodden part of the world holding up a baby. me, i really did and do regularly write off $350K. Whoever wants to come volunteer in chicago and help real people, let me know. I wont hold my breath.

SD20, you often sound as arrogant, as narcissistic and as elitist as your hero DT.

I'm willing to bet that the liberals/progressives on this board have done more for the common good than you and #45 put together.

Don't be jelly, bro. It's never too late to start to help others. And don't look at it as a much measuring stick. How much I do vs you. Just do what you can to help others.

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[stilldropin20]

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[Wizardspride]

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Rasmussen I assume?

[TGW]

LOL at saying you'd tax the hell out of anyone making over $20 million on one page, then applauding Trump's tax cuts for the rich like two pages later.

Sorry stilldupped, you're a joke.

[dckingsfan]

This made me sad:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/11/opinion/sunday/interracial-friendship-donald-trump.html

Basically, he is saying that he has lumped all white people together. I get it - and from his perspective I understand where he is coming from - and don't blame him one bit.

On the other hand, I think this is going to be difficult going forward as there are more and more single issue voters.

What if Trump wasn't a raving lunatic and serial liar but didn't do like Reagan, Bush I & Bush II and blast White Extremists. But he/she was dead-on all the other issues. (okay, very hard to imagine )

Just like the writer who seems to be a single issue voter - there could be another voter who is a single issue voter (example abortion). Does a white person that doesn't believe in abortion immediately not trust anyone of color (since they vote overwhelmingly D).

It just seems like the Venn diagrams aren't aligning well as far as people trusting each other and co-existing.

[Wizardspride]

I;m not lumping ALL white people together but as a minority I totally get where he's coming from.

It's a feeling of betrayal....
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/11/opinion/sunday/interracial-friendship-donald-trump.html

Barack Obama’s farewell address encouraged us to reach across partisan lines. But there is a difference between disagreeing over taxes and negotiating one’s place in America, the bodies of your children, your humanity. Our racial wound has undone love and families, and ignoring the depths of the gash will not cause it to heal.


We can still all pretend we are friends. If meaningful civic friendship is impossible, we can make do with mere civility — sharing drinks and watching the game. Indeed, even in Donald Trump’s America, I have not given up on being friends with all white people. My bi-ethnic wife, my most trusted friend, understands she is seen as a white woman, even though her brother and father are not. Among my dearest friends, the wedding party and children’s godparents variety, many are white. But these are the friends who have marched in protest, rushed to airports to protest the president’s travel ban, people who have shared the risks required by strength and decency.

[Kanyewest]

Spoiler:

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Rasmussen I assume?

Yeah, here are the averages on 538 at the moment.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/