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Post#201 » by GhostsOfGil » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:19 am

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Likewise, we could use a stable, reliable, youngish veteran whom we could count on every night. Even if his ceiling was lower.

The salaries don't work out though.

It would have to be Blatche + Etan + first round pick for Collison. Seattle has the cap room to absorb the difference in salary.


i feel like thats giving up to much....well id probably do blatche etan + pick from memphis for collison
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Post#202 » by yungal07 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:19 am

Jamison is soft as a baby's ass.

I wish we had a real bonafide stud big man that can rebound and defend consistently. I really do.
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Post#203 » by miller31time » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:21 am

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Likewise, we could use a stable, reliable, youngish veteran whom we could count on every night. Even if his ceiling was lower.

The salaries don't work out though.

It would have to be Blatche + Etan + first round pick for Collison. Seattle has the cap room to absorb the difference in salary.


I agree, somewhat. There's a part of me that would love a reliable F/C off the bench that could rebound with the best of them.

But I also know that, though we have a playoff-caliber team, our core (Arenas and Butler) is young. Hopefully, when Blatche starts 'getting it', Arenas and Butler will be in their prime and we can have a more formidable team.
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Post#204 » by nate33 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:22 am

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i feel like thats giving up to much....well id probably do blatche etan + pick from memphis for collison

Note that Seattle is absorbing about $4M in additional salary. That would give us the breathing room to resign Mason and still avoid the luxtax.

It kinda makes sense for Seattle too. They get big man for the future in Blatche, and they also get a physical big man with a good attitude in Etan to help the youngsters along. By the time the youngsters are ready to take over, Etan's contract would expire.
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Post#205 » by newslowsad » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:22 am

only two and a half games back of cleveland...
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Post#206 » by dobrojim » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:24 am

yungal07 wrote:Jamison is soft as a baby's ass.

I wish we had a real bonafide stud big man that can rebound and defend consistently. I really do.


Foolish words (since I don't see green)

AJ is one of the league leaders in rebounding. He won't make
the all-defensive team, but there is no question his defense
is VASTLY improved from years past which may well be faint
praise, but he's actually been getting steals and blocks this
year.
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Post#207 » by nate33 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:24 am

yungal07 wrote:Jamison is soft as a baby's ass.

I wish we had a real bonafide stud big man that can rebound and defend consistently. I really do.

You should be banned for that ridiculous comment.

Jamison has been absolutely terrific this year. A rock. A stud. A leader. He's had two bad games in a row right now. Big deal. You gotta keep things in perspective. The guy has carried us all season. 21.6 points and 10.3 boards a game. 0 games missed. Enough said.
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Post#208 » by CrankyTodd » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:24 am

I don't see why we would throw in a pick. Collison will be 28 next season. Blatche fits their age profile, and his talent balances out Collison's consistency. We would also have to go looking for a scoring 4 in the draft (i'm not putting all of my eggs in the Pecker basket).
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Post#209 » by nate33 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:26 am

CrankyTodd wrote:I don't see why we would throw in a pick. Collison will be 28 next season. Blatche fits their age profile, and his talent balances out Collison's consistency. We would also have to go looking for a scoring 4 in the draft (i'm not putting all of my eggs in the Pecker basket).

I agree that Blatche for Collison straight up is fair talentwise and a pick wouldn't be needed.

Unfortunately, the salaries don't add up. I had to add Etan as filler (because I don't really want to give away Songaila.) The pick is compensation for them absorbing Etan's contract.
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Post#210 » by miller31time » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:26 am

dobrojim wrote:Foolish words (since I don't see green)

AJ is one of the league leaders in rebounding. He won't make
the all-defensive team, but there is no question his defense
is VASTLY improved from years past which may well be faint
praise, but he's actually been getting steals and blocks this
year.


Agreed. He's been fantastic this season. He's improved his defense to "average", which is a big jump from last year.
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Post#211 » by dobrojim » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:27 am

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You should be banned for that ridiculous comment.

Jamison has been absolutely terrific this year. A rock. A stud. A leader. He's had two bad games in a row right now. Big deal. You gotta keep things in perspective. The guy has carried us all season. 21.6 points and 10.3 boards a game. 0 games missed. Enough said.


I almost immediately went ignore after that. Even though his shooting
was off again tonight, in the aggregate, a lot of people would like to
have "bad" games where they go 17/12.
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Post#212 » by yungal07 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:28 am

I stand by my statement. He's soft as charmin and he can't defend worth a damn. He's a small forward masquerading as a big man.

The Wizards aren't winning anything except second round t-shirts with him downlow.

We're just soft in general in the middle. Brendan is soft. Jamison is soft. Blatche is soft. It almost makes me miss Etan.
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Post#213 » by miller31time » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:28 am

nate33 wrote:I agree that Blatche for Collison straight up is fair talentwise and a pick wouldn't be needed.

Unfortunately, the salaries don't add up. I had to add Etan as filler (because I don't really want to give away Songaila.) The pick is compensation for them absorbing Etan's contract.


Considering the circumstances, Blatche (to Seattle) is worth far more than Collison is to them. Adding in Etan balances in the fact that they're getting a piece that fits in with the youth/potential-movement.
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Post#214 » by gowiz999 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:29 am

AJ killed us again. I thought it was pretty obvious. If he plays like this in Sacramento, LA, or Utah we will get killed. We just cannot afford any more 6/17 nights, not at this point in the season where every game is so important.
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Post#215 » by bulletproof_32 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:29 am

WizStorm should just take the night off with the POTG game thread. I think it's a foregone conclusion.
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Post#216 » by 80sballboy » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:29 am

Mason really saved them tonight. Geez was Eddie stubborn with the starters and is going to kill Caron. Other than Mason, the double-teaming the ball on defense, very wise choice.

Maybe I was wrong about getting a guy like Hansbrough to at least help out on the boards. Probably a similar player to Collison at probably a inch or two shorter. I swear Songaila will not go after a rebound unless it falls into his hands. We made Collison and Petro look like Bill Walton and Shaq.
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Post#217 » by 80sballboy » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:31 am

Also add that our perimeter defense is more of the problem than anything else. Not much you can do with aging AD and one-legged Stevenson. They just get abused by quicker guards and we have to throw in gimmick defenses to protect them. Wish we had that quick guard off the bench to defend and push the tempo. Like Chris Whitney! :clap: :wink:
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Post#218 » by dobrojim » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:31 am

yungal07 wrote:I stand by my statement. He's soft as charmin and he can't defend worth a damn. He's a small forward masquerading as a big man.

The Wizards aren't winning anything except second round t-shirts with him downlow.

We're just soft in general in the middle. Brendan is soft. Jamison is soft. Blatche is soft. It almost makes me miss Etan.


you're digging that hole even deeper now.

AJ may be "soft" but that actually is effective. And when we
consider his future, hopefully with us, it could well translate
to a shallower decline through his mid 30s than your typical
stud athlete PF who has no finesse to his game at all.
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Post#219 » by bulletproof_32 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:32 am

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I almost immediately went ignore after that. Even though his shooting
was off again tonight, in the aggregate, a lot of people would like to
have "bad" games where they go 17/12
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Beat me to it. My thoughts exactly. While not a great shooting night he still managed to post a double double.
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Post#220 » by CrankyTodd » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:33 am

80sballboy kind of has a point. Hansborough could probably give us a similar player without giving up on Blatche's potential. Collison would get more PT than Hansborough in the next year or two on this team just because EJ doesn't give that much time to rookies, and Collison is already well acclimated to the NBA, and off the bat would probably help us more, but it's a pretty good point.

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