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Game 80: Philadelphia 76ers @ Washington Wizards 4/12/08

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Post#201 » by newslowsad » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:06 am

Kanyewest wrote:Then came a few post criticizing Gilbert Arenas, who I though was a top 10 player when healthy. Apparently he is a "chucker'.


Gil was great tonight in the 4th and saved us, no doubt. However, if you don't think he can be a major chucker, you're kidding yourself.
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Post#202 » by Pass_The_Sticks » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:06 am

Look at Arenas stats in the first half before you try to quote me.
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Post#203 » by Wizards2Lottery » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:08 am

btw KanyeWest, you come across as a total a-hole for calling out fellow Wiz fans in such a rude manner. If I had to do a told you so, I'd simply show you Eddie Jordans playoff record over the past 5 years.
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Post#204 » by fishercob » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:11 am

Gilbert0Arenas wrote:btw KanyeWest, you come across as a total a-hole for calling out fellow Wiz fans in such a rude manner. If I had to do a told you so, I'd simply show you Eddie Jordans playoff record over the past 5 years.


No he doesn't. He's poking fun at how ridiculously impulsive -- and usually negative -- the in-game commentary is.

In the no-accountability world of message boards, it's fun to show people the silly things they've postulated.
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Post#205 » by 80sballboy » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:14 am

No. Our defense broke the record for most 3's allowed in an NBA season this year. This team will always be inconsistent and below average on defense under EJ. It was about time that they started focusing on it. It shouldn't have taken 3 quarters for that to happen.


So you are saying they don't focus on defense? They have some of the slowest defenders in the league in Jamison, Songaila, an aging Daniels, a broken down Stevenson and Butler, (poor def player in Arenas when he plays) so what do they do? Pack the middle and force teams to shoot from the perimeter. I don't totally agree with that philosophy, but they at least they have a plan which is headed by Ayres (who does only get credit when things go well).

Would you have those guys defend a quicker Philly team straight up? They would get around them like they are standing still so force them to shoot jumpers and don't get into a running game with them. This is the worst three-point shooting team in the league. I have more problems with that philosophy against good shooting teams, but tonight, I understand what they did..and it worked.
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Post#206 » by Pass_The_Sticks » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:15 am

If you guys think that Gilbert didn't chuck in the 1st half you're a bunch of casual fans.
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Post#207 » by 80sballboy » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:16 am


If you guys think that Gilbert didn't chuck in the 1st half you're a bunch of casual fans.


So you're point is? :banghead: :banghead:
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Post#208 » by Wizards2Lottery » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:21 am

80sballboy wrote:
No. Our defense broke the record for most 3's allowed in an NBA season this year. This team will always be inconsistent and below average on defense under EJ. It was about time that they started focusing on it. It shouldn't have taken 3 quarters for that to happen.


Would you have those guys defend a quicker Philly team straight up? They would get around them like they are standing still so force them to shoot jumpers and don't get into a running game with them. This is the worst three-point shooting team in the league. I have more problems with that philosophy against good shooting teams, but tonight, I understand what they did..and it worked.


Which is why I said that they will never be good on defense under EJ. In my opinion, this team doesn't focus on defense and Eddie Jordan doesn't hold these accountable for lack luster defensive efforts as seen by the below average defensive results year after year.

Your last line is exactly my point. How many times have we seen this team get absolutely lit up from the perimeter? What happens in the playoffs when we face Cleveland who has nothing but three point shooting guards or Orlando who is one of the best 3 point shooting teams in the league?
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Post#209 » by hands11 » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:21 am

dobrojim wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



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our first rnd pick is N1

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Post#210 » by HumbleBumbleBee » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:21 am

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Post#211 » by hands11 » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:25 am

Funny as crap call out by Kanyewest

Hey, i think you missed a few on page one.

Predictions that GA would be worse tonight then last night. LOL
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Post#212 » by Wizards2Lottery » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:27 am

fishercob wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



No he doesn't. He's poking fun at how ridiculously impulsive -- and usually negative -- the in-game commentary is.

In the no-accountability world of message boards, it's fun to show people the silly things they've postulated.


Bullsh*t. For the selective "negative" posts there are plenty cheering and positive posts by the posters.

You know what. I'm done with posting through games. This board has nothing but a bunch of pansies who like to call out fellow fans, when they themselves don't have an opinion of there own and simply come out of the shadows when things are good.

Win after win, it becomes an issue for a selective jackass to call out a group of fans who posted a selective amount of negative in game posts.
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Post#213 » by fishercob » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:30 am

G0A, chill out man. It's Saturday night and you're in college. What are you doing in front of a computer anyway? Go enjoy yourself.
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Post#214 » by hands11 » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:35 am

80sballboy wrote:
No. Our defense broke the record for most 3's allowed in an NBA season this year. This team will always be inconsistent and below average on defense under EJ. It was about time that they started focusing on it. It shouldn't have taken 3 quarters for that to happen.


So you are saying they don't focus on defense? They have some of the slowest defenders in the league in Jamison, Songaila, an aging Daniels, a broken down Stevenson and Butler, (poor def player in Arenas when he plays) so what do they do? Pack the middle and force teams to shoot from the perimeter. I don't totally agree with that philosophy, but they at least they have a plan which is headed by Ayres (who does only get credit when things go well).

Would you have those guys defend a quicker Philly team straight up? They would get around them like they are standing still so force them to shoot jumpers and don't get into a running game with them. This is the worst three-point shooting team in the league. I have more problems with that philosophy against good shooting teams, but tonight, I understand what they did..and it worked.


Hard to argue with that given the players we play and their health.

I think if we were healthy is would be a different.

We are moving in the right direction though. Once AB is a little better across the board and NY and DMAC expand their games, then we will have more young fresh legs to play D.

We have a lot of talent on this team but like you said, AD, AJ, and Songaila just aren't quick players in the mold of Phi players. But we are a pretty strong team. We should power people more.

Now if GA could learn to be a shut down defender, that would change a lot. Then you could have 2 strong guards who can defend and disrupt the other teams offense. It always comes back to GA. He is the one player on this team who can change it the most. We know he can score. Now if he has passing PG skills and strong D, everything about this team changes.
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Post#215 » by Wizards2Lottery » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:35 am

fishercob wrote:G0A, chill out man. It's Saturday night and you're in college. What are you doing in front of a computer anyway? Go enjoy yourself.


I haven't missed more than 2-3 Wizards game over the past 7 years or so I've been watching them. Plus there really isn't much for me to do at WVU anymore since I quit on the things that attracted me to here. Counting down to the days I get my transfer from here to a place where I can actually peruse medicine :)
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Post#216 » by Kanyewest » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:45 am

Gilbert0Arenas wrote:btw KanyeWest, you come across as a total a-hole for calling out fellow Wiz fans in such a rude manner. If I had to do a told you so, I'd simply show you Eddie Jordans playoff record over the past 5 years.


You open yourself up to criticism when you voice your opinion. I'm sorry if I struck a nerve with you but I rather post my thoughts about how I felt about these opinions then be a passive observer.

At least EJ is making playoffs. Simply by the tone posters talk about him around here, you would think he was Isiah Thomas. BTW, I would not consider EJ a great coach (guys like Phil Jackson, Jerry Sloan, Pop come to mind). But he is probably in the top 10 this season for how the Wizards have performed without its major players.
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Post#217 » by RickRoll_inDC » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:51 am

that 4th quarter was insane. You'll either win if the other team goes 1-15, OR you'll win by going 14-18. Very rarely will BOTH happen. There was even a stretch of 7-8 minutes that we didn't miss.

i'm shocked that there was no DAGGERRRRRR on either Stevenson's 3 to put us up by 12 or Gil's 3 to put us up 15.
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Post#218 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:52 am

Great game, Arenas closed the door on the 76ers.
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Post#219 » by zardsfan » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:01 am

hands11 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Now if GA could learn to be a shut down defender, that would change a lot. Then you could have 2 strong guards who can defend and disrupt the other teams offense. It always comes back to GA. He is the one player on this team who can change it the most. We know he can score. Now if he has passing PG skills and strong D, everything about this team changes.


I don't think we will know whether Gils' defense will improve or not until next season.

Seems to me that getting down in that stance to play some hard-nosed D could be kind of scary on an iffy knee.

I for one will not be judging Gils' defensive effort this year too critically... but I have high hopes for Gil to show big improvement on the defensive end next year.
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Post#220 » by Kanyewest » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:03 am

Pass_The_Sticks wrote:Look at Arenas stats in the first half before you try to quote me.


According to the Sportsline gamelog, Arenas had 8 points (2-6 from the field and 2-2 from the free throw line) with 2 assists, and 2 rebounds. IMO, it was not that bad.

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