The What Should We Do With the 5th Pick II: IBJ Edition

[EddieJonesFan]

I am now saying I would draft Flynn over Curry in a heartbeat.

I am saying this because if Harden and Rubio are gone, and we have to keep the pick because there is no good trade available in EG's eyes than why draft Curry when you can draft a better PG in Flynn.

What is Curry better at than Flynn?

Flynn is WAY more athletic and has a pretty good Bball IQ, Curry has a great IQ and a terrific shot.

I would say overall, Flynn just has the better overall package, he can shoot pretty well and probably will improve that, he can penetrate with the best of them, posterize bigger guys, and is a nightmare to stay in front of. Yes he is 6'0 but he plays alot bigger.

I actually would not mind him in a trade down, maybe with NY so select Curry ship him to NY and dump salary (as much as possible) and get Flynn.

All this unless Harden is there than take him.

My wild card is Derozan.

Curry can play off the ball a lot better than Flynn.

Ok, thats because Curry was Davidson's only scorer so they had a lot of plays where he would come of a lot of picks and curls and what not for shots. Flynn was always the guy that penetrated and dished to other guys as well as scored.

I think Curry will be a good player but Flynn will turn out to be the better PG running a team.

Regardless, Curry can score well on and off the ball, he knows how to move and set up for shots off the ball, he's a lot like Ray Allen in that way. I think Flynn can be a pretty good PG, but I'm just saying Curry is far more versatile offensively.

[Ruzious]

I really doubt that injuries are a concern. He only missed a few games and came back strong. Plus, he's built like a rugby player and does not look like the injury-prone type.

I hope you're right because I like Lawson a lot and would like to see him do well at the next level. However, there have been reports that some GMs are worried about his health and, while he only missed a few games last season, Ty missed half the regular season the year before with an ankle injury.

You got bad info. Looking at his game logs on ESPN.com, he missed 3 games last season and 7 the season before.

[pancakes3]

I think a trade for Amare has a pretty good chance of happening. Assuming we will get the Suns 14th pick, here are my picks for us this draft.

Pick #14 James Johnson
Solid pick and a guy that can play right away. 6-8 257 & strong.

Pick #32 Dionte Christmas
I was torn here because we really should upgrade at PG & Mills or Collison should be available. However, we do not help at SG, especially from 3-point land and Christmas can hit-it.
If we don't have the space, Calathes would be the perfect pick.

it'd depend on the pieces we have to give up, wouldn't it? if we lose DMac (which i doubt) then James Johnson would be awesome. if we lose Nick Young (far more likely) then we need a sg even worse than we do now. the best shooting guards available at 14 would be Henderson (if he drops) or Buddinger.

[DCZards]

You got bad info. Looking at his game logs on ESPN.com, he missed 3 games last season and 7 the season before.

Bad info? Maybe somewhat. Don't know how many ACC (regular season) games the Heels played during the 2007-08 season but missing 7 is pretty close to missing half of them.

But I'm with you...I don't consider that injury prone...but I've seen at least one report that linked his drop in stock (at least at that time) to injury concerns.

[AgentOvechkin08]

Budinger can shoot lights out and is almost 6'8 and is an explosive athlete, but doesnt always use his athleticism fully. He would not be a bad option at 14 if we did a trade like that.

At 32 we can get a foward, maybe Dajuan Summers falls, but I doubt it.

[W. Unseld]

My latest worry is that Thabeet drops and is available at 5. OTOH, I'm thinking Grunfeld wouldn't draft him. That was your worthless stream of consciousness post of the day. I'll be here all week, thank you and good night.

[Ruzious]

You got bad info. Looking at his game logs on ESPN.com, he missed 3 games last season and 7 the season before.

Bad info? Maybe somewhat. Don't know how many ACC (regular season) games the Heels played during the 2007-08 season but missing 7 is pretty close to missing half of them.

But I'm with you...I don't consider that injury prone...but I've seen at least one report that linked his drop in stock (at least at that time) to injury concerns.

When you said he missed half the regular season, I assumed you meant half of the regular season - not just half of the ACC part of the regular season. Ok, we got that straightened out. He's played 35 games a season, so missing about 10 games in 3 seasons isn't too bad. 90%.

[closg00]

My latest worry is that Thabeet drops and is available at 5. OTOH, I'm thinking Grunfeld wouldn't draft him. That was your worthless stream of consciousness post of the day. I'll be here all week, thank you and good night.

I used to worry about it, but we are trading the pick anyway most-likely.
The thing that sucks is that the Suns will keep their #14 pick in the supposed trade with us..would have been great to get Amare and picks 14 & 32. I guess I'm getting greedy.

[DCZards]

My latest worry is that Thabeet drops and is available at 5. OTOH, I'm thinking Grunfeld wouldn't draft him. That was your worthless stream of consciousness post of the day. I'll be here all week, thank you and good night.

It could happen, but I don't see Thabeet getting past Memphis. Memphis is already set on the perimeter with Gay and OJ Mayo (who will be a STAR), and PG Connelly really came on strong the last half of the season. And Gasol has the makings of a decent PF. You put 'Beet out there to rebound and block shots and you potentially have something special.

[forthepeople]

I don't think Gasol can play PF. Defensively he would be a huge liability.
I think the Grizzles weakest positions are a defensive rebounding PF to
put next to Gasol and check the faster Forwards or a PG depending on what position
you think OJ Mayo plays. Conley didn't show close to as much as Russel Westbrook
in his first season. I think the Grizzles take the PG at the top of there draft board.
Thats Rubio, Curry, Flynn, Jennings, Evans. If Rubio won't change his demands I think
they go with Curry.

[pancakes3]

they'd pick jordan hill over a pg easily.

[Ji]

still cant believe how much the board has turned against Jordan Hill. There was a love affair with him back in January with some people wanting to pick him over Griffin.

[Rafael122]

Because he's short and he can't shoot. If he were 6'3, he'd be a top 5 pick.

Actually Lawson's shot has improved dramatically over the last two years. In-fact he shoots a very high% trey. I'm not surprised at all that his "stock" has gone up.

QFT. I get the impression that people just assume he's basically the same as Felton. He's not. His efficiency stats at UNC were much better than Felton's.

That's the last comparison I'd make. I would have said a stockier TJ Ford where he can drive to the hole, kick it out to the open man or lay it in. He could take the beating too since he has a pretty strong upper body.

[PowerHouse]

What would you guys think of this trade?


Etan Thomas
#5

for

Kris Humphries
Patrick O'Bryant
#9

Both Humpries and O'Bryant have manageable contracts.

[Benjammin]

What would you guys think of this trade?


Etan Thomas
#5

for

Kris Humphries
Patrick O'Bryant
#9

Both Humpries and O'Bryant have manageable contracts.

Seriously? I think it's a nocturnal emission for Toronto.

[Dat2U]

What would you guys think of this trade?


Etan Thomas
#5

for

Kris Humphries
Patrick O'Bryant
#9

Both Humpries and O'Bryant have manageable contracts.

I understand why Toronto would do this. But please explain to me what's in it for the Wizards?

[PowerHouse]

What would you guys think of this trade?


Etan Thomas
#5

for

Kris Humphries
Patrick O'Bryant
#9

Both Humpries and O'Bryant have manageable contracts.

I understand why Toronto would do this. But please explain to me what's in it for the Wizards?

Basically, it's to save money, and still have a shot at taking Jordan Hill at #9.

[LyricalRico]

^ We save money this year but are also on the hook for another year of Humphries after that. I'd much rather just do Etan+5 for the #9.

[Dat2U]

Basically, it's to save money, and still have a shot at taking Jordan Hill at #9.

The savings is negligble. Thomas is an expiring so taking his salary off our hands isn't really doing us a big favor. Humphries is the one that actually has an extra year on his deal. The Wizards appear more interested in one of the guards than Jordan Hill. And neither Harden, Curry, Evans nor Flynn appear likely to be available at #9.

[doclinkin]

I get the feeling doc really enjoys his "debates" with hands11.

Actually handsy has been a pretty solid good actor for a while now. It's rare he pulls the y'all-vs-me deal like his early post RedskinsExtreme (or whatever) days. And having peeked in on that board I can see why you might come in with your knucks-up and nunchucks --looking for a fight over facts. Either way, who cares, it's all fodder for conversation. We all get to bluster and strut every now and again. I just get chesty if I'm told I'm copying someone. I steal from John Givony and our own TSW and any reports I can ferret out from obscure sources, but following anybody? No I try to be my own original unique brand of a-hole.

Yeah it's WizDy that I have fun playing whack-a-mole with. But mostly because the dude's a frickin spartan, never gives up even in a totally lost cause unless and until you have beaten his stool bloody, and even then. That kind of fighting spirit ain't a bad thing, even if/when it's totally misguided. Yeah, he's fun when you only half pay attention until you get a good topic to battle about. Once you get past the wall of text defense, and the tedium.

It's kind of enjoyable to be called an idiot by an expert on the condition. But that's just my particular bent.