2012 NBA Draft

go'stags · Post #221 » by **go'stags** » Fri Dec 2, 2011 12:50 am

I don't remember Michael Finley in his younger days, but was he explosive at all? It seems Barnes could have a very similar game. His jumper is so smooth.

Post #222 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Dec 2, 2011 1:29 am

go'stags wrote:I don't remember Michael Finley in his younger days, but was he explosive at all? It seems Barnes could have a very similar game. His jumper is so smooth.

I'm so old that I remember Finley way back in his Sconsin days. He was an ultra uber athlete for those days - and actually not a great shooter. There was a big burly center on that team - can't remember his name, but that Wisconsin team was disappointing, because they had 2 stars and really didn't play well. I think the Bucks drafted the center and hoped he'd improve his skills in Europe and eventually play well in the NBA, but it never happened.

Post #223 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Dec 2, 2011 1:33 am

Rafael122 wrote:Anthony Davis: 4 pts, 5 rebounds, 4 blocks. And we're only about 9 minutes into the game. Just a beast.

And Jones is hitting that outside jumper. Surprised Dat didn't put him in his top 10.

Yeah, that KY defense is just sick. And it's not just Davis - who really is that good - but Jones and Gilchrist at the forwards are so big and long. Gilchrist would be the stud defender on most teams, an you hardly even notice him on Kentucky.

go'stags · Post #224 » by **go'stags** » Fri Dec 2, 2011 3:19 am

Dat, I think you have Lamb too low.

Is Henry Sims an NBA prospect? I'm beginning to think so.

daSwami · Post #225 » by **daSwami** » Fri Dec 2, 2011 4:30 am

go'stags wrote:I don't remember Michael Finley in his younger days, but was he explosive at all? It seems Barnes could have a very similar game. His jumper is so smooth.

his game reminds me a bit of calbert cheaney.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #226 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:03 am

ESPN.com named UNLV's Mike Moser national player of the week. He's a sophomore who transferred from UCLA. Recall that Moser's UNLV team beat Barnes and UNC last week. Moser had 18 points, 16 rebounds, 6 assists against the Tar Heels.

http://www.lvrj.com/sports/unlv-s-moser ... 50948.html

If he can do that against players like Henson and Barnes, Moser is no slouch. I will throw Mike Moser's name out early as a player to keep watch on this season.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/unl ... er1112.pdf

http://www.uclabruins.com/sports/m-bask ... ike00.html

fishercob · Post #227 » by **fishercob** » Fri Dec 2, 2011 12:20 pm

daSwami wrote:
go'stags wrote:I don't remember Michael Finley in his younger days, but was he explosive at all? It seems Barnes could have a very similar game. His jumper is so smooth.

his game reminds me a bit of calbert cheaney.

I dont see that. I agree with Ruz. Finley could sky -- he had young Jason Richardson hops.

fishercob · Post #228 » by **fishercob** » Fri Dec 2, 2011 3:12 pm

Timely to our Sullinger discussion, SBNation's Jonathan Tjarks delivers his assessment:

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/12/2/2 ... e-buckeyes

JARED SULLINGER

6'8, 265 lbs., sophomore power forward

Shot creation: One of the most gifted low-post scorers in recent college memory, with outstanding footwork, creativity and touch on the low-block. But without great athleticism at 6'8, effectiveness in NBA paint is an open question. Developing a face-up game and a turn-around jumper are both essential at the next level for a player his size.

Defense: Might be a "4.5" -- too slow to defend 4s like Lamar Odom and too short to defend 5s like Andrew Bogut. Will need to be hid on opponent's least effective front-court player. Has averaged a very unimpressive 0.6 blocks over his career.

Outside shot: Plays mostly in the paint, but has a good-looking stroke and is shooting 83.3 percent from the free throw line this season. A reliable pull-up jumper and three-point shot would be huge for career prospects.

Passing: Very fundamentally sound player who can have offense run through him in either low or high post, a valuable skill for a second-unit big man. Career averages of 1.3 assists to 1.6 turnovers.

Rebounding: Lack of athleticism makes it difficult to win battles above the rim, but uses low center of gravity, wingspan and soft hands effectively. Career average of 10.2 rebounds.

Best case: Toughness and skill level allows for career as starting power forward despite athletic limitations -- Luis Scola.

Worst case: Unable to create shots efficiently in the NBA while weight issues hinder defensive effectiveness -- Sean May.

mhd · Post #229 » by **mhd** » Fri Dec 2, 2011 3:19 pm

All of these players would be rated ahead of SUllinger: Davis, Drummond, Miller, Beal. PJ3 IMO.

Mr_Wizard · Post #230 » by **Mr_Wizard** » Fri Dec 2, 2011 8:40 pm

We really should suck one more year. As much as I want to develop a winning mentality and want to see the team succeed and make a trip to the playoffs - the 2k12 draft is too good not to try to draft top 5.
We would likely get a future perennial star type player that allows us to compete with the multiple star superteams a few years down the line...

Post #231 » by **Rafael122** » Sat Dec 3, 2011 12:15 am

Watching Florida/Syracuse for Bradley Beal. Kid has a good frame, I'm concerned he's a bit undersized for the 2.

Dat2U · Post #232 » by **Dat2U** » Sat Dec 3, 2011 12:31 am

Rafael122 wrote:Watching Florida/Syracuse for Bradley Beal. Kid has a good frame, I'm concerned he's a bit undersized for the 2.

Haven't watched enough of him to really get a good feel but he appears to be built a lot like Eric Gordon.

Post #233 » by **Rafael122** » Sat Dec 3, 2011 1:54 am

Dat2U wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:Watching Florida/Syracuse for Bradley Beal. Kid has a good frame, I'm concerned he's a bit undersized for the 2.

Haven't watched enough of him to really get a good feel but he appears to be built a lot like Eric Gordon.

Nope, the kid is ripped man. Shredded. Gordon has more baby fat on him.

Post #234 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Dec 3, 2011 2:42 pm

Mr_Wizard wrote:We really should suck one more year. As much as I want to develop a winning mentality and want to see the team succeed and make a trip to the playoffs - the 2k12 draft is too good not to try to draft top 5.
We would likely get a future perennial star type player that allows us to compete with the multiple star superteams a few years down the line...

And if the Wiz are able to get Anthony Davis, he could be a major attraction for free agents to want to come here.

Must see tv at noon today - UNC at Kentucky - 2 of the best college front courts we'll ever see.

no D in Hibachi · Post #235 » by **no D in Hibachi** » Sat Dec 3, 2011 5:37 pm

I'm really impressed with Jon Henson. He's bringing it today against Kentucky. Post ups, jump hooks, up and unders, sweet looking stroke, and tremendous length. He'll be a better version of Taj Gibson.

Dat2U · Post #236 » by **Dat2U** » Sat Dec 3, 2011 6:18 pm

Game of the year right now b/w UNC & UK. I'd trade any roster in the NBA for the collection of talent on the floor in this game.

Dat2U · Post #237 » by **Dat2U** » Sat Dec 3, 2011 6:32 pm

I'd put Henson over Barnes. Barnes is a one or two dribble guy at most. He just can't get all the way to the rim.

Marshall's b-ball IQ and decision making are off the charts. He's like a HQ version of former UCONN PG Marcus Williams.

pancakes3 · Post #238 » by **pancakes3** » Sat Dec 3, 2011 6:50 pm

barnes is pussyfooting around big time. 1-7 from 2. 4-5 from 3.

Dat2U · Post #239 » by **Dat2U** » Sat Dec 3, 2011 6:51 pm

Wow, Barnes trying to take over but his handle won't let him. First time he did a few crossovers and forced up a contested fade away 3. Second time he attacks the basket and gets ripped cleanly.

Post #240 » by **montestewart** » Sat Dec 3, 2011 6:58 pm

Just when I was thinking Davis hasn't been the shot blocking machine I expected