GT #56 Wizards at Cavaliers 6 PM 2/23/2014

Dat2U · Post #221 » by **Dat2U** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:16 pm

BigA wrote:Looking at it again, I think Nene will be out 2-3.

7th or 8th seed here we come. :-?

Benjammin · Post #222 » by **Benjammin** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:24 pm

The proverbial "moving" two or three weeks, as is the pattern all so often.

AFM · Post #223 » by **AFM** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:32 pm

Anyone here actually a doctor?

GhostsOfGil · Post #224 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:41 pm

AFM wrote:Anyone here actually a doctor?

WizD might really be trolling us all...

pancakes3 · Post #225 » by **pancakes3** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:43 pm

What's all this talk about a tutu tree?

dckingsfan · Post #226 » by **dckingsfan** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:03 pm

Remember when Beal banged knees... just have to wait for the MRI and see if there is any swelling.

Post #227 » by **Rafael122** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:03 pm

AFM wrote:Anyone here actually a doctor?

Dr. Ray Solano seems to think if its a mild sprain, he's out 2-3 weeks. Problem is it happened on the same leg his achilles injury is on

Post #228 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:37 pm

Rafael122 wrote:
AFM wrote:Anyone here actually a doctor?

Dr. Ray Solano seems to think if its a mild sprain, he's out 2-3 weeks. Problem is it happened on the same leg his achilles injury is on

Amputation?

I'm surprised he'd give an analysis before the MRI results.

Higga · Post #229 » by **Higga** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:46 pm

O/U on Nene's return date...March 31st.

jivelikenice · Post #230 » by **jivelikenice** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:52 pm

Couple of game comments - actually Wittman comments.

1. Until I see Miller/ Wall on the court together I don't beleive it will happen with any frequency

2. Why did he have Wall/Ariza sit so long in the 2nd Q? Wall/Ariza had a strong 1st and they sat until roughly the 4:50 mark. We were -9 while Wall sat and a 6 pt lead turned into a 3 pt deficit....Additionally Miller has been here since Friday and indicated that he probably played too much the night before....

3. So now that the Beal minutes limit was lifted, Wittman is back to playing him nearly 40 minutes a night. Lets see how long til Beal gets shut down again

4. Then he finally had a chance to sit his guys for the last 3 minutes. We were up 14 with 3 minutes to go. He doesn't restthe starters out then (when he should). Even funnier was when we took a TO with :50 left in the game up 12 and Wittman still has the starters out there. Then he sends the subs to the table with :30 to go with no dead ball.

I get it...We won a road by by 13 in a very meainingful game considering Cleveland won 6 of their last 7 and we've been up & down; but these types of things make it hard to take Randy seriously as a long-term solution.

Post #231 » by **LyricalRico** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:00 pm

jivelikenice wrote:4. Then he finally had a chance to sit his guys for the last 3 minutes. We were up 14 with 3 minutes to go. He doesn't restthe starters out then (when he should). Even funnier was when we took a TO with :50 left in the game up 12 and Wittman still has the starters out there. Then he sends the subs to the table with :30 to go with no dead ball.

Agreed. We finally put a game away, and he leaves the guys out there. And I thought he took the time out to make substitutions, but no. Didn't get that at all.

Still, nice to see them put a game away.

CntOutSmrtCrazy · Post #232 » by **CntOutSmrtCrazy** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:12 pm

jivelikenice wrote:Couple of game comments - actually Wittman comments.

1. Until I see Miller/ Wall on the court together I don't believe it will happen with any frequency

2. Why did he have Wall/Ariza sit so long in the 2nd Q? Wall/Ariza had a strong 1st and they sat until roughly the 4:50 mark. We were -9 while Wall sat and a 6 pt lead turned into a 3 pt deficit....Additionally Miller has been here since Friday and indicated that he probably played too much the night before....

3. So now that the Beal minutes limit was lifted, Wittman is back to playing him nearly 40 minutes a night. Lets see how long til Beal gets shut down again

4. Then he finally had a chance to sit his guys for the last 3 minutes. We were up 14 with 3 minutes to go. He doesn't rest the starters out then (when he should). Even funnier was when we took a TO with :50 left in the game up 12 and Wittman still has the starters out there. Then he sends the subs to the table with :30 to go with no dead ball.

I get it...We won a road by by 13 in a very meaningful game considering Cleveland won 6 of their last 7 and we've been up & down; but these types of things make it hard to take Randy seriously as a long-term solution.

In a slight defense of Wittman, this team hasn't exactly inspired confidence in anyone in holding leads this season. Perfect example was the last game in Cleveland when we almost let that enormous lead evaporate. Add to that the fact that Irving has the ability to go bonkers in short periods, I don't find it that perplexing that we stuck with the starters.

Now, I agree with your point that we shouldn't suddenly start playing Beal for heavy minutes and that Wittman sat Wall and Ariza too long in the second. Regarding the former, Randy should probably be giving some extra minutes to Webster and/or Temple, especially in games where Beal is ineffective like he was on Saturday night. I think Webster can definitely pick up the slack in terms of minutes seeing that he has only played 30+ minutes once over the last 10 or so games and has usually played south of 25. In terms of Wittman sitting Wall and Ariza too long, specifically regarding Wall, he has had a penchant to kill Wall's momentum many a times this season when he has been playing fantastic by burying him on the bench. He does the same crap in the fourth quarter as well. I'd be in favor of pulling Wall a couple minutes earlier in the 1st and 3rd quarters (depending on how he's playing) and bringing him in around the 9 or 10 minute mark in the following quarters. But yeah, Wittman has played 'heat check' for the opponents inexplicably too often this season.

Post #233 » by **nate33** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:17 pm

jivelikenice wrote:1. Until I see Miller/ Wall on the court together I don't beleive it will happen with any frequency.

Which is fine with me. Neither can shoot much so the floor spacing is lousy.

jivelikenice wrote:2. Why did he have Wall/Ariza sit so long in the 2nd Q? Wall/Ariza had a strong 1st and they sat until roughly the 4:50 mark. We were -9 while Wall sat and a 6 pt lead turned into a 3 pt deficit....Additionally Miller has been here since Friday and indicated that he probably played too much the night before....

That means they sat 7:10. If a player is going to play 35 minutes in a given game, he is going to sit 7 minutes in one half and 6 minutes in the other. I don't see the problem here at all.

jivelikenice wrote:3. So now that the Beal minutes limit was lifted, Wittman is back to playing him nearly 40 minutes a night. Lets see how long til Beal gets shut down again

. Beal played 38 minutes. In the last 11 games, Beal has played 34, 35, 34, 34, 34, 37, 36, 37, 35, 37 and 38 minutes. Again I don't see the problem.

jivelikenice wrote:4. Then he finally had a chance to sit his guys for the last 3 minutes. We were up 14 with 3 minutes to go. He doesn't restthe starters out then (when he should). Even funnier was when we took a TO with :50 left in the game up 12 and Wittman still has the starters out there. Then he sends the subs to the table with :30 to go with no dead ball.

I'm not too comfortable going to the deep bench up 14 with over 3 minutes to go - not when the end of our bench is as bad as it is. As it turned out, we had one long possession starting at 2:48 and ended at 2:05 with a miss. We next got the ball after a Luol Deng basket closed the lead to 12 with 1:51 to go. Probably could have called a timeout there but I can understand him waiting to make one more basket to be sure. We ran a 20-second possession ending in a Seraphin miss. Our next real opportunity to bring in the subs was at 1:22 when Beal got a defensive board. That's probably the time he should have brought in the scrubs. I'm not going to quibble at 1:22 minutes.

jivelikenice wrote:I get it...We won a road by by 13 in a very meainingful game considering Cleveland won 6 of their last 7 and we've been up & down; but these types of things make it hard to take Randy seriously as a long-term solution.

I just don't see any reason to get all bent out of shape about Randy's rotations. There was nothing wrong with them at all.

dobrojim · Post #234 » by **dobrojim** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:35 pm

GhostsOfGil wrote:Interesting stats for Beal:
Home games: 37.8 FG% / 35.4 3FG%
Away games: 43.5 FG% / 46.8 3FG%

trend continued - Beal, thankfully, shot reasonably well.

jivelikenice · Post #235 » by **jivelikenice** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:36 pm

-I think Wall's improved enough as a 3 pt shooter that you can play him with Miller. And I think thats simplyfying it too much. Miller has also made a career of scoring and creating scoring without a jumpshot so I think it could work as a change of pace option....There also wasn't much spacing in Denver last year but again it worked for stretches...

-Beal jumping from 30 mpg to 35.7 per game over the past 10 games is not a good thing and that averages jumpts to nearly 37 mpg over the last 5. That is alarming considering Randy's irresponsibility with overplaying Beal in the past.

-With 3 minutes to go...Fine..But call a TO w/ 2:00 to go and get them out. And there definitely was no excuse for not pulling them with :50 to go.

dobrojim · Post #236 » by **dobrojim** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:37 pm

dobrojim wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Adding Hawes, and with Bennett and Zeller improving, the Cavs have a bunch of pieces now. Question is - are they going to fit into a cohesive unit at both ends of the floor? Hawes might put up good stats, but is he taking away PT from better all-around players - or at least players who were finally starting to develop into better all-around players? My feeling now on them is they're a team that's putting an emphasis much more on offense than defense - and that's probably not a recipe for success. If the Wiz play good D, they should win.

good point and virtually always true, at least against bottom feeder teams like CLE.

another trend that continued - we played reasonably good D holding CLE to under 40% FG.
And we won. Not a coincidence. Need to beat ORL tomorrow!

jivelikenice · Post #237 » by **jivelikenice** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:37 pm

jivelikenice wrote:-I think Wall's improved enough as a 3 pt shooter that you can play him with Miller. And I think thats simplyfying it too much. Miller has also made a career of scoring and creating scoring without a jumpshot so I think it could work as a change of pace option....There also wasn't much spacing in Denver last year but him and lawson worked for stretches...Consideriing we don't have a real 4th guard on the team is Wall/Miller really a worse option than anything else we have?

-Beal jumping from 30 mpg to 35.7 per game over the past 10 games is not a good thing and that averages jumpts to nearly 37 mpg over the last 5. That is alarming considering Randy's irresponsibility with overplaying Beal in the past.

-With 3 minutes to go...Fine..But call a TO w/ 2:00 to go and get them out. And there definitely was no excuse for not pulling them with :50 to go.

Kanyewest · Post #238 » by **Kanyewest** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:38 pm

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GhostsOfGil · Post #239 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:38 pm

dobrojim wrote:
GhostsOfGil wrote:Interesting stats for Beal:
Home games: 37.8 FG% / 35.4 3FG%
Away games: 43.5 FG% / 46.8 3FG%

trend continued - Beal, thankfully, shot reasonably well.

So unusual for a young player. Normally I would write this off as a coincidence but the disparity is so large that there has to be more to it. I have a feeling he's going to struggle mightily in the playoffs.

dobrojim · Post #240 » by **dobrojim** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:42 pm

jeffsays wrote:To be honest, I don't mind long twos from Bradley at all. I do mind when he takes contested twos. When Bradley gets off a clean look it almost always goes in. His stroke is too nice. He just needs to learn that the offense doesn't need to run through him.

Partial agreement. I just hate contested long 2s. But clean looks I don't feel quite
as badly about, except all too often it seems like he steps 1 dribble inside the line
when he could have just as easily put up the 3. Where either is an option, shoot the 3!