Bradley Beal - Part III

tontoz · Post #221 » by **tontoz** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:34 pm

nate33 wrote:Rather than shoot with a hand in his face, I'd like him to develop the Dwyane Wade array of pump fakes so he can draw fouls and get to the line.

If playing with Pierce didn't help him in that regard then nothing will.

closg00 · Post #222 » by **closg00** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:36 am

Just following the matches for Crabbe and Taylor, I wonder what Beals market rate would have been had we not maxed him?

nuposse04 · Post #223 » by **nuposse04** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:31 am

closg00 wrote:Just following the matches for Crabbe and Taylor, I wonder what Beals market rate would have been had we not maxed him?

even if another team offered him a max deal it'd be better for us to shorten the duration of paying him in the very likely chance he does not justify max level pay.

Happy to see he is working on his dribbles, but like others have stated: Show it in the games, please drive more (pump fakes) and most importantly... please stay healthy. :nonono:

verbal8 · Post #224 » by **verbal8** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:12 pm

closg00 wrote:Just following the matches for Crabbe and Taylor, I wonder what Beals market rate would have been had we not maxed him?

I don't doubt someone would have made him a max/near-max offer. While the salary for next season would be the same, the raises are smaller and the deal would be shorter(4 years). Not sure it is a great reason, but I could see the intent to pursue Horford as a reason for giving Beal more money than necessary.

PerkinsFor3 · Post #225 » by **PerkinsFor3** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:56 pm

Tomas will be starting before the end of the year guys.

TGW · Post #226 » by **TGW** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:01 pm

PerkinsFor3 wrote:Tomas will be starting before the end of the year guys.

How exactly? Unless he sends a $130 million dollar player to the bench, or that said player gets hurt as usual, I don't see it happening.

tontoz · Post #227 » by **tontoz** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:07 pm

TGW wrote:
PerkinsFor3 wrote:Tomas will be starting before the end of the year guys.

How exactly? Unless he sends a $130 million dollar player to the bench, or that said player gets hurt as usual, I don't see it happening.

DINGDINGDING

Temple started 43 games last season so Perkins isn't exactly reaching.

TGW · Post #228 » by **TGW** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:13 pm

tontoz wrote:
TGW wrote:
PerkinsFor3 wrote:Tomas will be starting before the end of the year guys.

How exactly? Unless he sends a $130 million dollar player to the bench, or that said player gets hurt as usual, I don't see it happening.

DINGDINGDING

Temple started 43 games last season so Perkins isn't exactly reaching.

Ok, but the implication was that he would start thru performance and not injury.

tontoz · Post #229 » by **tontoz** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:42 pm

TGW wrote:Ok, but the implication was that he would start thru performance and not injury.

I know. He is probably right just not for the reason he thinks.

It would be #sowizards if Sato actually does outplay Beal.

Post #230 » by **nate33** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:36 pm

tontoz wrote:
TGW wrote:Ok, but the implication was that he would start thru performance and not injury.

I know. He is probably right just not for the reason he thinks.

It would be #sowizards if Sato actually does outplay Beal.

Beal has a way of looking good even when plays pretty bad. The franchise and the fanbase always seem to believe that Beal is about to "break out" and emerge as a superstar. Even if Beal posts his usual lackluster, inefficient stats, I expect that perception to continue.

I don't see any way Sato leapfrogs him in the lineup. Sato would have to be the second-coming of Manu Ginobili to pull that off.

PerkinsFor3 · Post #231 » by **PerkinsFor3** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:44 pm

Injury.

And if not for an injury it might be a trade.

Post #232 » by **nate33** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:50 pm

PerkinsFor3 wrote:Injury.

And if not for an injury it might be a trade.

Beal won't be traded for a while. Right now, nobody would want him at that price. And if he started to play well enough to be tradeable, then we would all be excited about him breaking out and we wouldn't want him traded. This team never considers "selling high" on a player.

So basically, the prediction that Sato will start is kind of like predicting the sun will rise in the east. We know Beal will get hurt at some point, so all Sato needs to do to start in place of him is to beat out Marcus Thornton.

Hidden Eye · Post #233 » by **Hidden Eye** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:12 am

I see that Beal is hanging around with the girl from Love nHip Hop Hollywood Season 2 you already know that trap is in set.

Wizardspride · Post #234 » by **Wizardspride** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:26 am

Hidden Eye wrote:I see that Beal is hanging around with the girl from Love nHip Hop Hollywood Season 2 you already know that trap is in set.

They've been a couple for well over a year now.

Post #235 » by **LyricalRico** » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:51 pm

CJ McCollum gets $106M over 4 years. Does that impact anyone's opinion of the Beal contract?

Post #236 » by **nate33** » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:54 pm

LyricalRico wrote:CJ McCollum gets $106M over 4 years. Does that impact anyone's opinion of the Beal contract?

What is that? The same contract as Beal but with one less year? I think the 4-year deal is better.

If Beal had signed a 4-year deal, he'd be up for a new contract in 2020. I don't think he would merit a new contract in 2020 starting at $28.7M. That's what he's going to get in 2021 under his current 5-year contract.

AFM · Post #237 » by **AFM** » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:12 pm

Without looking at the stats (so they may surprise me), McCollum is also a better player than Beal, reputations aside.

Dark Faze · Post #238 » by **Dark Faze** » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:27 pm

Not that much better though, surprisingly

And a worse defender as well

Post #239 » by **nate33** » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:29 pm

AFM wrote:Without looking at the stats (so they may surprise me), McCollum is also a better player than Beal, reputations aside.

Yup. McCollum is better. More efficiency at a higher volume and more durable. He is 15 months older though.

Post #240 » by **nate33** » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:35 pm

Dark Faze wrote:Not that much better though, surprisingly

And a worse defender as well

Going by DBPM, Beal was literally one of the worst defensive shooting guards in the league last year, ranking 81st out of 95 players with a ghastly -2.53 rating. McCollum was pretty ordinary, ranking 24th with a +0.05 rating.

Beal has historically been a pretty decent defender, but he was absolutely dreadful last year.