2024 Draft Thread - Part II

[Rafael122]

Castle measured in at 6'5 with a 6'9'' wingspan.

Standing reach? Standing vert? Max vert? Link?

My bad, pcbothwel has it.

Look, Castle's measurements check every box. Does he have playmaking skills? Is the shooting an anomaly or something to be concerned about? At 2, I wouldn't do it.

Keep in mind, Risacher and Topic probably won't measure until early June. They could blow us away for all we know.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Karaban shot the lights out (as he did all season), and measured with a 6’11” wingspan and 8’10.5” standing reach. Legit NBA wing size. Still just 21 years old. Another good option at #26.

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If he is the pick at #26, Washington will add another player player from a championship team. Butler plays the right way. Karaban is a pretty sure bet to play good defense and hit threes.

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[doclinkin]

Castle measured in at 6'5 with a 6'9'' wingspan.

Standing reach? Standing vert? Max vert? Link?

My bad, pcbothwel has it.

Look, Castle's measurements check every box. Does he have playmaking skills? Is the shooting an anomaly or something to be concerned about? At 2, I wouldn't do it.

Keep in mind, Risacher and Topic probably won't measure until early June. They could blow us away for all we know.

Risacher will show a long standing reach, narrower wingspan. Long legs, narrow shoulders. His vert will be pretty good. Topic will have some of the strangest measurements you have ever seen in a Euro. Long arms, wide wingspan, limited standing reach. He has the neck and torso of a much taller person, but the legs of a wiener dog.

[doclinkin]

Castle measured in at 6'5 with a 6'9'' wingspan.

6'5.5" height without shoes
6'9" wingspan
8'6" standing reach
210lbs.

So he is the same size as Dillon Brooks, Miles Bridges, Troy Brown, Jaylen Brown, etc.
With his physicality, he can 100% play the 2/3 and even some minutes as a small ball 4. I like it.

Klay Thompson wingspan but not standing reach. I suspect Castle tanked the standing reach too, it's kinda become standard to game the measurements and boost impression of your athleticism. Do we have numbers for max vert?

[BearlyBallin]

Player. Pos. Fat% hand L Hand W Ht Stand reach Wt Wing
Devin Carter SG -% 8.75 9.00 6' 2.25'' 8' 2.00'' 193.0 6' 8.75''
Stephon Castle SG -% 8.75 8.75 6' 5.50'' 8' 6.00'' 210.0 6' 9.00''

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?SeasonYear=2024

Player Pos Lane agility Shuttle run 3/4 run Stand Vert Max Vert Bench
Devin Carter SG 10.63 2.90 2.87 35.0 42.0 -
Stephon Castle SG 10.93 2.91 3.19 28.5 37.0 -

[80sballboy]

Castle is growing on me. I know he can defend but wow.

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[Dat2U]

I wish I could have seen Castle play #1 option on a non-loaded team to see what he's made of. He thinks of himself as a PG and while he can make good basic decisions, at least at UConn he did, I wish I could have seen some full on aggressiveness to see what he could do as a scorer.

Being 6-7 helps. Can play the 3 comfortably with his frame.

He's top 10 for sure but I prefer Holland at this point and probably even Isaiah Collier.

[smoothSeph]

1. Sarr (unlikely)
2. Holland
3. Castle

for me

[doclinkin]

I wish I could have seen Castle play #1 option on a non-loaded team to see what he's made of. He thinks of himself as a PG and while he can make good basic decisions, at least at UConn he did, I wish I could have seen some full on aggressiveness to see what he could do as a scorer.

Being 6-7 helps. Can play the 3 comfortably with his frame.

He's top 10 for sure but I prefer Holland at this point and probably even Isaiah Collier.

6'7" with a better lane agility/shuttle run than all the 2-guards in the draft except 6'5" AJ Johnson. (Unless you count the 6'2" guys like Jared McCain and Devin Carter as 2-guards. They'll defend PGs so I'd categorize them as PG's).

Wingspan of a small forward, foot speed of a Point Guard.

So much for not being athletic.

Though Ron Holland showed up stellar in both measurements too. In an even taller player.

[Dat2U]

I said it before ... but it's like this draft is missing a top 5. If you look at Sarr as the 6th pick in a normal year or Holland as the 7th, suddenly the draft looks alot better.

Rough draft:

Tier One (Wemby, LeBron tier)
-None

Tier Two (Multiple all-star tier)
-None

Tier Three (Solid starter, possible all-star)
pg Rob Dillingham
sf Ron Holland
c Alexandre Sarr

Tier Four (Solid role player, possible starter)
pg Isaiah Collier
pg Reed Sheppard
pg Jared McCain
pg Nikola Topic
sg Stefon Castle
sg Devin Carter
sf Matas Buzelis
sf Zaccharie Risacher
sf Dalton Knecht
pf Tristan de Silva
c Donovan Clingan
c Kel'el Ware
c Kyle Filipowski
c Zach Edey

Tier Five (Deep Bench, possible role player)
pg Tyler Kolek
sg Terrence Shannon Jr
sg Jaylon Tyson
sg Ja'Kobe Walter
sg Kevin McCullar
sf Baylor Scheierman
sf Johnny Furphy
sf Nikola Djurisic
sf Cody Williams
pf Tidjane Salaun
pf Ivan Almansa
c Yves Missi
c Daron Holmes II

Tier 6 (Developmental types, Two-Ways)
pg K.J. Simpson
pg Carlton Carrington
pg Mark Sears
pg Juan Nunez
pg Jamal Shead
sg Pacome Dadiet
sg Ajay Mitchell
sg Hunter Sallis
sg Cameron Christie
sg Jaxson Robinson
sg Pelle Larsson
sf Dillon Jones
sf Melvin Ajinca
sf Alex Karaban
sf Jalen Bridges
sf Kyshawn George
sf Ryan Dunn
sf Payton Sandfort
pf Bobi Klintman
pf Tyler Smith
pf Keshad Johnson
pf Coleman Hawkins
c Adem Bona
c Ulrich Chomche
c Ariel Hukporti

[tontoz]

Player. Pos. Fat% hand L Hand W Ht Stand reach Wt Wing
Devin Carter SG -% 8.75 9.00 6' 2.25'' 8' 2.00'' 193.0 6' 8.75''
Stephon Castle SG -% 8.75 8.75 6' 5.50'' 8' 6.00'' 210.0 6' 9.00''

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?SeasonYear=2024

Player Pos Lane agility Shuttle run 3/4 run Stand Vert Max Vert Bench
Devin Carter SG 10.63 2.90 2.87 35.0 42.0 -
Stephon Castle SG 10.93 2.91 3.19 28.5 37.0 -

I sorted that link by the sprint times and there are some interesting names near the top. I knew Cody was fast (3.06) but I wasn't expecting Knecht to test that well. Da Silva as well.

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[80sballboy]

Player. Pos. Fat% hand L Hand W Ht Stand reach Wt Wing
Devin Carter SG -% 8.75 9.00 6' 2.25'' 8' 2.00'' 193.0 6' 8.75''
Stephon Castle SG -% 8.75 8.75 6' 5.50'' 8' 6.00'' 210.0 6' 9.00''

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?SeasonYear=2024

Player Pos Lane agility Shuttle run 3/4 run Stand Vert Max Vert Bench
Devin Carter SG 10.63 2.90 2.87 35.0 42.0 -
Stephon Castle SG 10.93 2.91 3.19 28.5 37.0 -

I sorted that link by the sprint times and there are some interesting names near the top. I knew Cody was fast (3.06) but I wasn't expecting Knecht to test that well. Da Silva as well.

Knecht is a really good athlete. Can score in a variety of ways. Has pretty good length at +3.75, but damn, he's a problem on D. Might be worse than Kispert. Going to a team with a lot of defensive studs would help.

[payitforward]

...Devin Carter showing up large in the athletics makes 100% sense given his numbers vs his size. I like the guy.

Me too! If he is on the board at 26 (admittedly unlikely...) he'd be a terrific get.

[dckingsfan]

Spoiler:

I said it before ... but it's like this draft is missing a top 5. If you look at Sarr as the 6th pick in a normal year or Holland as the 7th, suddenly the draft looks alot better.

Rough draft:

Tier One (Wemby, LeBron tier)
-None

Tier Two (Multiple all-star tier)
-None

Tier Three (Solid starter, possible all-star)
pg Rob Dillingham
sf Ron Holland
c Alexandre Sarr

Tier Four (Solid role player, possible starter)
pg Isaiah Collier
pg Reed Sheppard
pg Jared McCain
pg Nikola Topic
sg Stefon Castle
sg Devin Carter
sf Matas Buzelis
sf Zaccharie Risacher
sf Dalton Knecht
pf Tristan de Silva
c Donovan Clingan
c Kel'el Ware
c Kyle Filipowski
c Zach Edey

Tier Five (Deep Bench, possible role player)
pg Tyler Kolek
sg Terrence Shannon Jr
sg Jaylon Tyson
sg Ja'Kobe Walter
sg Kevin McCullar
sf Baylor Scheierman
sf Johnny Furphy
sf Nikola Djurisic
sf Cody Williams
pf Tidjane Salaun
pf Ivan Almansa
c Yves Missi
c Daron Holmes II

Tier 6 (Developmental types, Two-Ways)
pg K.J. Simpson
pg Carlton Carrington
pg Mark Sears
pg Juan Nunez
pg Jamal Shead
sg Pacome Dadiet
sg Ajay Mitchell
sg Hunter Sallis
sg Cameron Christie
sg Jaxson Robinson
sg Pelle Larsson
sf Dillon Jones
sf Melvin Ajinca
sf Alex Karaban
sf Jalen Bridges
sf Kyshawn George
sf Ryan Dunn
sf Payton Sandfort
pf Bobi Klintman
pf Tyler Smith
pf Keshad Johnson
pf Coleman Hawkins
c Adem Bona
c Ulrich Chomche
c Ariel Hukporti

And give this... not trading down in this year's draft makes no sense to me. Conversely, trading up also (so there is that).

I think Sarr goes #1. I don't think I am as sold on Dillingham as you are (but you have been right more often than I). That leaves Holland. So, I definitely do 2 for 7 & 14 if I am given the opportunity and take my chances that I get two possible starters (over the long-haul).

[closg00]

Arent you the one that said resigning Deni was a bad idea?

I wrote that I would have been fine with not picking-up the options on any of Davis, Deni, Corey and seeing what the market would offer, I was massively wrong on Deni, I was right about not trusting Topic and his knee, he hasn't even started an 82 game season yet, the knee will not hold

So are you a doctor, or did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

What are the facts? Topic went down with a knee injury in January, came back, and tweaked the same knee without any obvious contact during normal play, but all is well? PASS

[tontoz]

I expect Missi to be moving up the mocks. He hasn't been playing basketball long. Crazy athlete which showed in the testing.

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[tontoz]

I wrote that I would have been fine with not picking-up the options on any of Davis, Deni, Corey and seeing what the market would offer, I was massively wrong on Deni, I was right about not trusting Topic and his knee, he hasn't even started an 82 game season yet, the knee will not hold

So are you a doctor, or did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

What are the facts? Topic went down with a knee injury in January, came back, and tweaked the same knee without any obvious contact during normal play, but all is well? PASS

The fact is that he didn't have surgery after his first injury and won't need it this time. With no surgery and no structural problems it is doubtful it will effect his draft stock at all.

[closg00]

So are you a doctor, or did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

What are the facts? Topic went down with a knee injury in January, came back, and tweaked the same knee without any obvious contact during normal play, but all is well? PASS

The fact is that he didn't have surgery after his first injury and won't need it this time. With no surgery and no structural problems it is doubtful it will effect his draft stock at all.

Topic is out for rest of the ABA finals, he will still get drafted obviously, ultimately it will be an organizational call from an FO. I wouldn't take the risk, you would

[tontoz]

Topic is out for rest of the ABA finals, he will still get drafted obviously, ultimately it will be an organizational call from an FO. I wouldn't take the risk, you would

He's out a few days.

He'll be participating in workouts next month. Can't be that bad.