Slather me, Lather me, Blather me - 2011 Draft Thread 5

TGW · Post #241 » by **TGW** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:06 pm

Rafael122 wrote:Chad Ford's latest mock:

#6 - Vesely
#18 - Alec Burks
#34 - Jordan Williams

Give me a pistol now.

no D in Hibachi · Post #242 » by **no D in Hibachi** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:06 pm

nate33 wrote:I'm just not so convinced as everybody else in how the draft is going to shake out. Everyone is planting rumors right now. Utah has an interest in making everyone believe they want Kanter so they can work out a trade. Washington has an interest in making everyone believe they love Vesely so they don't look desperate for Kanter. Cleveland may be trying to pump up Valanciunas' value in order to trade him.

I love your rational well-thought out evaluation...I just have a hard time believing this.

AnotherFinn · Post #243 » by **AnotherFinn** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:07 pm

I think Jazz is going to draft Kanter and keep him, they kinda need better rebounder, Millsap & Favors is not strong combo in that area.

Interesting to see what are actual picks that EG does pick, and what kind of out cry it makes this year.

Hoopalotta · Post #244 » by **Hoopalotta** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:08 pm

TGW wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:Chad Ford's latest mock:

#6 - Vesely
#18 - Alec Burks
#34 - Jordan Williams

Give me a pistol now.

To fire it in the air in celebration?

Post #245 » by **Rafael122** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:09 pm

nate33 wrote:I'm just not so convinced as everybody else in how the draft is going to shake out. Everyone is planting rumors right now. Utah has an interest in making everyone believe they want Kanter so they can work out a trade. Washington has an interest in making everyone believe they love Vesely so they don't look desperate for Kanter. Cleveland may be trying to pump up Valanciunas' value in order to trade him.

Or we do really like Vesely and we're going to pick him. I fear the worse...

WizarDynasty · Post #246 » by **WizarDynasty** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:10 pm

i will ay this jv has an exceptionally high offensive and defensive bbiq. You rarely see his BBIQ, size and quickness.
I have Vesely rated just slightly below Kanter in terms of fit with John Wall.

jangles86 · Post #247 » by **jangles86** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:14 pm

Hang on.....from what ive seen, Jan vesely is an extremely long, super athletic, dunker without a post game and is a horrible shooter......dont we already have one of them

NbdyBeatsTheWiz · Post #248 » by **NbdyBeatsTheWiz** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:17 pm

Rafael122 wrote:Apparently JV had a secret meeting with the Cavs on Tuesday so there's still hope...who knows...if Kanter drops to 6....that'd be nice wouldn't it?

Maybe that's a sign the Cavs all but plan to trade down with us if Kanter is there and want to have their bases covered at pick #6?

(had JV mixed up with the other JV.... I think?)

Post #249 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:17 pm

jangles86 wrote:Hang on.....from what ive seen, Jan vesely is an extremely long, super athletic, dunker without a post game and is a horrible shooter......dont we already have one of them

On the "positive" side, you won't have to imagine how bad Javale would be if he played small forward.

WizarDynasty · Post #250 » by **WizarDynasty** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:21 pm

we could easily trade our pick for paul george of indiana?

http://www.indycornrows.com/2011/6/18/2 ... aul-george

jangles86 · Post #251 » by **jangles86** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:23 pm

Id rather drink a bucket of battery acid instead of watching Mcgee plying himself as a run and gun 3.

I can really just see the word 'length' being thrown around alot when we draft Vesely and the words 'shoot first' never being thought of.

....sorry wrong thread.

Post #252 » by **LyricalRico** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:26 pm

Wizardspride wrote:
mhd wrote:If Utah takes Kanter, than Milsapp is clearly expendable. They also want Jimmer, who likely goes 7 to the Kings.

What about Lewis for Okur+Milsapp and and swap of 6 and 12?

I don't like that proposal.

I don't like it either...I LOVE IT!!! I've been against trading for Milsap before since Booker could turn out to be a cheaper option, but when we can get him in exchange for Lewis and help our cap by getting Okur's expiring - I think you have to make the deal and sort your roster out later.

We take Singleton at 12, Donatas at 18, and shop Blatche for whatever we can get.

Wizardspride wrote:Edit: Am I the only one who isn't desperate to have Kanter?

No, I'm also not completely in the tank for Kanter. At this point I'd be fine with Vesely or a trade.

Jay81 · Post #253 » by **Jay81** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:27 pm

how many times on Wiretap have you seen something like "Spurs offering Tony Parker"

then 2 days later,

"GM Denies Parker ever mentioned in trades"

jangles86 · Post #254 » by **jangles86** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:28 pm

Now the Thunder are chasing Valanciunus. For a guy that wont take the court for 2 years, he's seduced alot of teams

Post #255 » by **nate33** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:28 pm

LOL
That's a great picture of McGee.

jangles86 · Post #256 » by **jangles86** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:31 pm

nate33 wrote:LOL
That's a great picture of McGee.

Personally I'd like him alot more if he did that face and hand gesture everytime after a dunk instead of signing off as the love boat captain.

Post #257 » by **nate33** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:32 pm

WizarDynasty wrote:we could easily trade our pick for paul george of indiana?

http://www.indycornrows.com/2011/6/18/2 ... aul-george

If true, I'd do it in a heartbeat. I'm sure Indy balks though.

TGW · Post #258 » by **TGW** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:34 pm

Would anyone trade down with Houston?

Patterson, #14 and their 2012 pick (top 5 protection) for #7 and Booker?

Post #259 » by **nate33** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:35 pm

Just remember.

The collective wisdom of the board hated the McGee pick. He turned out to be one of the steals of the draft.

The collective wisdom of the board hated the Booker pick. He may well be one of the steals of his draft. He has the 4th highest PER of his draft class and he defends.

The collective wisdom of the board hates the Vesely idea. Hmmm.

sfam · Post #260 » by **sfam** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:43 pm

Jay81 wrote:what a disaster Ernie and this organization are. Despite all the numbers,scouting,etc and the need for a cant miss player, we are still taking the guy everyone hates.

I know Ted reads all the blogs,RealGM,etc and he is a fool if he lets Ernie draft Vesley.

This organization sucks

No, he's a fool if he over-rides his Basketball people. Ted would be "pulling a Snyder" if he did as you suggest. That he won't means this organization is clearly on the right track.