John Wall is the best PG in the East right now

[Ruzious]

IMO, that second scenario is pretty much never okay even if he is "open"... Wall is not a good shooter, whether it's on a catch and shoot or off the dribble.

I'm fine with him taking standstill jumpers when wide open, but let's be real.. a lot of his shot attempts (particularly in this 4-5 game cold streak) are him trying to create space and shoot off the dribble which is clearly not his game. It's bad offense, period.

If he's going to try to create off the dribble, he should aim to attack the basket instead of bailing the defense out with a long two. At least present the threat of you getting into the lane.

Exactly. Take the open 3's in the flow of the offense, but do NOT take 20 footers unless he's up against the shot clock. Shooting 5 of 17 does NOT make him a shooting threat. It makes the opponent happy. When you're defender is giving you room to shoot, that doesn't stop you from dribbling toward him, taking away that space, and then driving passed him. Rondo and Parker are experts at it.

[jivelikenice]

Didn't shoot great but played a great PG game. Surprisingly no JJ posting tonight....

[JonathanJoseph]

IMO, that second scenario is pretty much never okay even if he is "open"... Wall is not a good shooter, whether it's on a catch and shoot or off the dribble.

I'm fine with him taking standstill jumpers when wide open, but let's be real.. a lot of his shot attempts (particularly in this 4-5 game cold streak) are him trying to create space and shoot off the dribble which is clearly not his game. It's bad offense, period.

If he's going to try to create off the dribble, he should aim to attack the basket instead of bailing the defense out with a long two. At least present the threat of you getting into the lane.

Agreed. Wall actually looks really good when he's just penetrating with the intent to get someone else a shot, or in the pick and roll. He looks terrible when he's trying to create offense for himself.

If he would be comfortable with 8 pts/15 assists kind of stat lines, he might even be worth close to his contract.

[JonathanJoseph]

IMO, that second scenario is pretty much never okay even if he is "open"... Wall is not a good shooter, whether it's on a catch and shoot or off the dribble.

I'm fine with him taking standstill jumpers when wide open, but let's be real.. a lot of his shot attempts (particularly in this 4-5 game cold streak) are him trying to create space and shoot off the dribble which is clearly not his game. It's bad offense, period.

If he's going to try to create off the dribble, he should aim to attack the basket instead of bailing the defense out with a long two. At least present the threat of you getting into the lane.

Exactly. Take the open 3's in the flow of the offense, but do NOT take 20 footers unless he's up against the shot clock. Shooting 5 of 17 does NOT make him a shooting threat. It makes the opponent happy. When you're defender is giving you room to shoot, that doesn't stop you from dribbling toward him, taking away that space, and then driving passed him. Rondo and Parker are experts at it.

Right. There is a reason that opposing teams are daring him to shoot.....they know that he will and are giving him every opportunity.

[JonathanJoseph]

Didn't shoot great but played a great PG game. Surprisingly no JJ posting tonight....

Ooops.

[B-easy]

So wall said he needs to attack more and he hardly did it this game, i only remember like 3 drives and 10 jump shots.

[hands11]

So wall said he needs to attack more and he hardly did it this game, i only remember like 3 drives and 10 jump shots.

You might want to watch again.

He drove plenty. He just passed more of the time after he drove.

He was also blatantly fouled on two other drives that were not called.

I have no problem with the game Wall played. That mid range shots will start to fall.

[B-easy]

So wall said he needs to attack more and he hardly did it this game, i only remember like 3 drives and 10 jump shots.

He drove plenty. He just passed more of the time after he drove.

Yes, i mean't attack more with the intent to score.

[jivelikenice]

In fact the game winning 3 by Martell was initiated by a drive by Wall.

[nate33]

I really wish Wittman and Wall could get together and figure out a way to exploit the opponent when they guard Wall with a 5'9" alligator-armed player like Jose Barea.

Does Wall have any post game yet? Hell, he doesn't even need a post game. Just get the ball on the block, turn and jump over him.

[fifthstop]

So wall said he needs to attack more and he hardly did it this game, i only remember like 3 drives and 10 jump shots.

You might want to watch again.

He drove plenty. He just passed more of the time after he drove.

He was also blatantly fouled on two other drives that were not called.

I have no problem with the game Wall played. That mid range shots will start to fall.

Yeah--I believe he TFO'd (Technical Fouled Out) the opposing hot-$h!t PG by getting into the lane at will. Rubio looked full-on scared by the time he sat.

[tontoz]

I really wish Wittman and Wall could get together and figure out a way to exploit the opponent when they guard Wall with a 5'9" alligator-armed player like Jose Barea.

Does Wall have any post game yet? Hell, he doesn't even need a post game. Just get the ball on the block, turn and jump over him.

You skipped one step. He has to shoot. Therein lies the problem.

[tontoz]

IMO, that second scenario is pretty much never okay even if he is "open"... Wall is not a good shooter, whether it's on a catch and shoot or off the dribble.

I'm fine with him taking standstill jumpers when wide open, but let's be real.. a lot of his shot attempts (particularly in this 4-5 game cold streak) are him trying to create space and shoot off the dribble which is clearly not his game. It's bad offense, period.

If he's going to try to create off the dribble, he should aim to attack the basket instead of bailing the defense out with a long two. At least present the threat of you getting into the lane.

Exactly. Take the open 3's in the flow of the offense, but do NOT take 20 footers unless he's up against the shot clock. Shooting 5 of 17 does NOT make him a shooting threat. It makes the opponent happy. When you're defender is giving you room to shoot, that doesn't stop you from dribbling toward him, taking away that space, and then driving passed him. Rondo and Parker are experts at it.

There is a reason why he is always open on the perimeter. See Josh Smith.

[dobrojim]

Great job finding open shooters and making plays. But still needs to stop shooting long twos early in the shotclock. You're not Kobe bro

Its fine to take those shots if he is open.

excellent night for John last night. 16 assist, 1 TO is just a sick stat line.

re his shooting and shot selection - I would take some issue with the notion that
'it's fine..if he's open'....that's often what the defense WANTS him to do ie settling.
Don't settle just because you can. You're better than that. If/when he regains
his stroke, my position on that could well evolve. For now, don't settle unless
you have to ie late in the shot clock. Make the opp play D. Dictate to them
not the other way around.

[dobrojim]

IMO, that second scenario is pretty much never okay even if he is "open"... Wall is not a good shooter, whether it's on a catch and shoot or off the dribble.

I'm fine with him taking standstill jumpers when wide open, but let's be real.. a lot of his shot attempts (particularly in this 4-5 game cold streak) are him trying to create space and shoot off the dribble which is clearly not his game. It's bad offense, period.

If he's going to try to create off the dribble, he should aim to attack the basket instead of bailing the defense out with a long two. At least present the threat of you getting into the lane.

Exactly. Take the open 3's in the flow of the offense, but do NOT take 20 footers unless he's up against the shot clock. Shooting 5 of 17 does NOT make him a shooting threat. It makes the opponent happy. When you're defender is giving you room to shoot, that doesn't stop you from dribbling toward him, taking away that space, and then driving passed him. Rondo and Parker are experts at it.

exactly. You're letting them dictate to you rather than the other way around.

[fishercob]

IMO, that second scenario is pretty much never okay even if he is "open"... Wall is not a good shooter, whether it's on a catch and shoot or off the dribble.

I'm fine with him taking standstill jumpers when wide open, but let's be real.. a lot of his shot attempts (particularly in this 4-5 game cold streak) are him trying to create space and shoot off the dribble which is clearly not his game. It's bad offense, period.

If he's going to try to create off the dribble, he should aim to attack the basket instead of bailing the defense out with a long two. At least present the threat of you getting into the lane.

Exactly. Take the open 3's in the flow of the offense, but do NOT take 20 footers unless he's up against the shot clock. Shooting 5 of 17 does NOT make him a shooting threat. It makes the opponent happy. When you're defender is giving you room to shoot, that doesn't stop you from dribbling toward him, taking away that space, and then driving passed him. Rondo and Parker are experts at it.

Seems like universal agreement here. Wall's shot selection (and not forcing the issue at the rim) is really hurting the Wiz's overall offensive efficiency (see my post in the stats thread). Good news here is that if he can clean this up -- and really, it's more mental than physical -- Wiz should improve.

[Dark Faze]

I think his shot selection is mostly fine. His jumper is just pathetically off right now, but you can't STOP taking those shots--it'll never get better that way.

I think he underrates his size and strength. He really should work on adding some muscle in the off-season in order to start punishing smaller guards in the way say, Harden does.

[Nivek]

The Wall shot that bugs the crap out of me is when he's open from 3pt range, but instead of taking the three, he dribbles in a step to attempt the long two.

SHOOT.

THE.

THREE.

[Upper Decker]

How long did it take for Lebron's jumper to become wet? When he first entered the league his jumper was bad, I'm not sure if it was John Wall bad, but bad none the less. Now he's basically automatic. I remember he brought back the Heat in game 6 of the finals on the strength of his jumper. An underrated part of Lebron's game is how hard he works. People give him crap because he's not an insane workout maniac like Kobe, but Lebron's gotten better every year of his career.

[pancakes3]

EDIT: This is in response to how Wall should play with respect to playing in the paint.

Or how Marcus Smart is doing in college right now. The 3's aside, he really punished Memphis inside. He was posting up, catching oops and playing off-ball super well. Whoever's picking him up is picking up a better Russell Westbrook.