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Bradley Beal - Part IV

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#241 » by payitforward » Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:04 pm

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Jay81 wrote:If we are truly rebuilding(which we should be!) we got to trade Porzinga while his value has somewhat shot back up!

I agree with this statement, but I don't think Porzingis' value has shot up much after just 19 games with the Wizards. But if Porzingis maintains that level of play for the first half-season this year, then we ought to explore trading him....

This.

nate33 wrote:I'm open-minded to keeping him too. ...If Porzingis can manage to sustain his play from last season, he might be a building block going forward.

Sure -- & I'd say the decision between those two mostly depends on what we can get for him. At least it ought to.

Keep in mind how low his value was. In general, I'd say we were in a position where I expected another team to take advantage of us in a trade. Instead, his value was low enough that all we had to give was our problems -- & we got a R2 pick as well!

I'd say that if he sustains, or even improves, we would get a bunch more for him.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#242 » by DCZards » Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:45 pm

payitforward wrote:I'd say that if he sustains, or even improves, we would get a bunch more for him.

Porzingis played well in his short stint with the Zards last season. If he continues to play that well or better (and can stay relatively healthy) you have to seriously consider keeping him as a core piece…unless you get a trade offer you simply can’t refuse.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#243 » by payitforward » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:35 am

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#244 » by WallToWall » Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:01 pm

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Well, if he takes a pay cut, then ok… but how low will he go?
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#245 » by FAH1223 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:20 pm

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Well, if he takes a pay cut, then ok… but how low will he go?


Dirk was making a max salary until 2014.

He was 36 years old when he started taking pay cuts.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#246 » by gambitx777 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:55 pm

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Well, if he takes a pay cut, then ok… but how low will he go?


Dirk was making a max salary until 2014.

He was 36 years old when he started taking pay cuts.
I think by dirk he means never leaves the team and stays with the team after he retires. Not really the pay cut part he's getting that max deal. That's my grandkids never be broke again money.

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#247 » by badinage » Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:14 pm

It gets worse and worse. This loyalty thing. Jesus.

Not one word to the effect of — I want to bring chips to DC. Multiple. Or at least say you’re gonna bring us one, g-ddamnit.

But no.

And because this city is lousy with people with sinecures — both political and bureaucratic — it has an over-regard for loyalty, and doesn’t clamor loudly and publicly for a Beal trade to save the team from the albatross of mediocrity.

An over-regard for loyalty, let me add, and a total absence of contempt for loyalty that hasn’t been earned (see: sinecure).
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#248 » by FAH1223 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:18 pm

badinage wrote:It gets worse and worse. This loyalty thing. Jesus.

Not one word to the effect of — I want to bring chips to DC. Multiple. Or at least say you’re gonna bring us one, g-ddamnit.

But no.

And because this city is lousy with people with sinecures — both political and bureaucratic — it has an over-regard for loyalty, and doesn’t clamor loudly and publicly for a Beal trade to save the team from the albatross of mediocrity.

An over-regard for loyalty, let me add, and a total absence of contempt for loyalty that hasn’t been earned (see: sinecure).


To be fair to Brad, he has said he wants to win a championship in DC and wants to be playing in May and June. He wants to do it here.

Of course, he has $250M reasons to say that. But he probably believes it since he clearly doesn't want to leave.

Also, if anyone is in town, you can catch up with Brad this Saturday. :lol:

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#249 » by 9 and 20 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:31 pm

Unless this dude grows a foot, starts speaking German, and remembers how to shoot, he's not going to be our Dirk. Maybe our Jamal Mashburn.
Can't say I do. Who else gonna shoot?
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#250 » by nate33 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:39 pm

WallToWall wrote:
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Well, if he takes a pay cut, then ok… but how low will he go?

It's an interesting headline, but there's nothing new in the article. It just says that Beal would be happy to stay in DC but he also wants to play for a winner. That's what he has been saying for 2 years now.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#251 » by doclinkin » Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:47 pm

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badinage wrote:It gets worse and worse. This loyalty thing. Jesus.

Not one word to the effect of — I want to bring chips to DC. Multiple. Or at least say you’re gonna bring us one, g-ddamnit.

But no.

And because this city is lousy with people with sinecures — both political and bureaucratic — it has an over-regard for loyalty, and doesn’t clamor loudly and publicly for a Beal trade to save the team from the albatross of mediocrity.

An over-regard for loyalty, let me add, and a total absence of contempt for loyalty that hasn’t been earned (see: sinecure).


To be fair to Brad, he has said he wants to win a championship in DC and wants to be playing in May and June. He wants to do it here.

Of course, he has $250M reasons to say that. But he probably believes it since he clearly doesn't want to leave.



And or it is clear there is nobody in the market who will pay him the way we will, even if they could. He's going to secure the bag first, then later if the team is not miraculously improved around him, despite the handicap of a massive contract for a decent player, then he can start talking about trades etc if we can make it work.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#252 » by Jay81 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 8:38 pm

I have to believe that Tommy is thinkin the same us...WTF are we doing committing a super max to this guy. Tommys problem seems to be that he has no influence over Ted who is a buffoon
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#253 » by doclinkin » Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:13 pm

Jay81 wrote:I have to believe that Tommy is thinkin the same us...WTF are we doing committing a super max to this guy. Tommys problem seems to be that he has no influence over Ted who is a buffoon


I don't think Tommy is looking at a super max. He has said the offer is on the table as far as the max extension, and that he reassured Brad and his agent after the injury that offer is still good. He has said his intention is to re-sign Brad, so the floor is that max extension, he can match and surpass any offer Brad would get in the market, but I think Brad's agent understands that the better offer is not out there. I expect he will take the offer but work in more player option years so that Brad continues to have leverage over where he is, and if he recovers 100% then maybe there is a bidding war for his services in a future year.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#254 » by NatP4 » Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:59 am

It’s hard to hate a guy for wanting to stay with the team that drafted him for his entire career. It’s not his fault that we have had an incompetent FO for 90% of his career.

Let’s see what Beal and Porzingis can do, and see what Tommy can do this off-season to build a competitive team. He’s made some huge splashes that Ernie never would’ve even thought about doing. I’m still a believer.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#256 » by doclinkin » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:42 am

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#257 » by Jay81 » Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:42 pm

something that i thought i would never see but just like Snyder is super silent about the redskins, Ted is silent now about the Wizards. You hardly ever see him publically talk about them. Nobody interviews him...or asks him the tough questions. why cant our media talk to him?
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#258 » by FAH1223 » Wed Jun 15, 2022 7:37 pm

Jay81 wrote:something that i thought i would never see but just like Snyder is super silent about the redskins, Ted is silent now about the Wizards. You hardly ever see him publically talk about them. Nobody interviews him...or asks him the tough questions. why cant our media talk to him?


Josh Robbins at The Athletic said he's been trying to. But can't get through.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#259 » by DCZards » Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:07 pm

Jay81 wrote:something that i thought i would never see but just like Snyder is super silent about the redskins, Ted is silent now about the Wizards. You hardly ever see him publically talk about them. Nobody interviews him...or asks him the tough questions. why cant our media talk to him?

It's smart--and ultimately a good thing for the Commanders--for Snyder to stay out of the spotlight. I'm glad to to see Ted doing the same. I prefer to have Tommy and/or Wes Jr. doing to press stuff.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#260 » by payitforward » Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:28 pm

NatP4 wrote:It’s hard to hate a guy for wanting to stay with the team that drafted him for his entire career. It’s not his fault that we have had an incompetent FO for 90% of his career. ...

Agree. I can't understand why there's so much negative attitude about Brad. Obviously an extremely good guy....

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