The Official Gilbert Arenas Shrine

[hands11]

Gilbert Arenas and TMac are both idiots.

As for Gilbert, he is just upset he doesn't get any attention so he is forcing his way into the conversation by acting like a child.

Here is the real headline.

Gilbert Arenas, shoe pooping, franchise killing, X-NBA player takes cheap shots at NBA AS center via twitter in an attempt to get some cheap attention.

[verbal8]

The first time Gil hazes the guy trying to cure AIDS, I will be the first to say he's gone too far. As long as Gil is playfully running down our opponent in a game of bouncing a rubber ball (like every other dude in a sports bar), I'm happy to laugh along. But, if he starts chiding brain surgeons while at work, I will muster up the fake outrage.

I think that is what made Gil so great, is that he reminded us that basketball is supposed to be fun.

[barelyawake]

The first time Gil hazes the guy trying to cure AIDS, I will be the first to say he's gone too far. As long as Gil is playfully running down our opponent in a game of bouncing a rubber ball (like every other dude in a sports bar), I'm happy to laugh along. But, if he starts chiding brain surgeons while at work, I will muster up the fake outrage.

I think that is what made Gil so great, is that he reminded us that basketball is supposed to be fun.

Right. And as far as Arenas only looking for attention, you can say the same about every comedian, rock star, celebrity and poster on the Internet (including, perhaps especially, on RealGM).

Gil's offense is celebrating too early. And I would have cautioned any fan against that after game one. But, I certainly wouldn't chide them for doing so.

TMac is another story. He isn't a Wizards' fan. Gil is. He's just a fan like any of us, now. Only he has millions of dollars, and no boss or responsibilities. And thus, he has the freedom to say whatever he wants.

[go'stags]

People again reading way too far into something Gil said or did. He is a clown (in a good way). I doubt he even thought about what he posted after it was finished loading.

[Zonkerbl]

He's an a-hole. I don't understand why people are always so quick to defend sociopathic behavior in famous people. Dillhollery is dillhollery, deal with it.

[Kanyewest]

I find it funny that people/reporters have been criticizing Hibbert but when players like T-Mac/Arenas do it, they call out their history (hasn't played a significant role in getting to the second round and gun gate). Truth is they have their right to an opinion which is that Hibbert needed to step up. They have more of a right to call them out then fans who call out players. Not sure what T-Mac and Arenas are doing that is so bad.

Only thing about talking trash though is it looks bad when Hibbert puts up a monster night (with the help of some extra steps). I'm glad the current Wizard players aren't calling out Roy Hibbert like those guys.

[hands11]

The first time Gil hazes the guy trying to cure AIDS, I will be the first to say he's gone too far. As long as Gil is playfully running down our opponent in a game of bouncing a rubber ball (like every other dude in a sports bar), I'm happy to laugh along. But, if he starts chiding brain surgeons while at work, I will muster up the fake outrage.

I think that is what made Gil so great, is that he reminded us that basketball is supposed to be fun.

Right. And as far as Arenas only looking for attention, you can say the same about every comedian, rock star, celebrity and poster on the Internet (including, perhaps especially, on RealGM).

Gil's offense is celebrating too early. And I would have cautioned any fan against that after game one. But, I certainly wouldn't chide them for doing so.

TMac is another story. He isn't a Wizards' fan. Gil is. He's just a fan like any of us, now. Only he has millions of dollars, and no boss or responsibilities. And thus, he has the freedom to say whatever he wants.

Wow .. People get played so easy.

Yeah.. Gil is a Wizards fan

[hands11]

I find it funny that people/reporters have been criticizing Hibbert but when players like T-Mac/Arenas do it, they call out their history (hasn't played a significant role in getting to the second round and gun gate). Truth is they have their right to an opinion which is that Hibbert needed to step up. They have more of a right to call them out then fans who call out players. Not sure what T-Mac and Arenas are doing that is so bad.

Only thing about talking trash though is it looks bad when Hibbert puts up a monster night (with the help of some extra steps). I'm glad the current Wizard players aren't calling out Roy Hibbert like those guys.

Why would that be ?

Actually its the exact opposite.

They should have some professional courtesy. Specially Gil considering how badly he screwed up.

And just from a human decency aspect, if Hibbert was really emotionally messed up over personal stuff, then publicly spamming him is just the sign of a sick individual. Has he forgotten what he went through publicly ? I haven't. I remember the chubby beard of depression he had on his face.

One good thing about Gil. His number. I have ZERO respect for him now and thats after having little respect fro him before. If he was a man, he would publicly apologize at a min. Even better would shut his trap and let the Wizards have the spotlight they earned instead of interjecting himself into the conversation.

But to Gil, its all just about him getting his name in the public which he did. Because before this, no one was talking about him. Like a bad kid, any attention is better then no attention.

[Kanyewest]

I find it funny that people/reporters have been criticizing Hibbert but when players like T-Mac/Arenas do it, they call out their history (hasn't played a significant role in getting to the second round and gun gate). Truth is they have their right to an opinion which is that Hibbert needed to step up. They have more of a right to call them out then fans who call out players. Not sure what T-Mac and Arenas are doing that is so bad.

Only thing about talking trash though is it looks bad when Hibbert puts up a monster night (with the help of some extra steps). I'm glad the current Wizard players aren't calling out Roy Hibbert like those guys.

Why would that be ?

Actually its the exact opposite.

They should have some professional courtesy. Specially Gil considering how badly he screwed up.

And just from a human decency aspect, if Hibbert was really emotionally messed up over personal stuff, then publicly spamming him is just the sign of a sick individual. Has he forgotten what he went through publicly ? I haven't. I remember the chubby beard of depression he had on his face.

One good thing about Gil. His number. I have ZERO respect for him now and thats after having little respect fro him before. If he was a man, he would publicly apologize at a min. Even better would shut his trap and let the Wizards have the spotlight they earned instead of interjecting himself into the conversation.

But to Gil, its all just about him getting his name in the public which he did. Because before this, no one was talking about him. Like a bad kid, any attention is better then no attention.

If you hate on Gilbert, then that's a bit hypocritical. He's a human too.

Gilbert had the same thing go on with him when he played poorly- there was a rumor that Shaq slept with his wife.

Now he's just a fan like everyone else. He's allowed to post random stats criticizing players he chooses. Of course he opens himself up for criticism for his past mistakes whenever he's in the public spotlight again.

Basketball is a bunch of trash talking anyways like KG talking about Carmelo's wife.

[Nivek]

I find it funny that people/reporters have been criticizing Hibbert but when players like T-Mac/Arenas do it, they call out their history (hasn't played a significant role in getting to the second round and gun gate). Truth is they have their right to an opinion which is that Hibbert needed to step up. They have more of a right to call them out then fans who call out players. Not sure what T-Mac and Arenas are doing that is so bad.

Only thing about talking trash though is it looks bad when Hibbert puts up a monster night (with the help of some extra steps). I'm glad the current Wizard players aren't calling out Roy Hibbert like those guys.

Why would that be ?

Actually its the exact opposite.

They should have some professional courtesy. Specially Gil considering how badly he screwed up.

And just from a human decency aspect, if Hibbert was really emotionally messed up over personal stuff, then publicly spamming him is just the sign of a sick individual. Has he forgotten what he went through publicly ? I haven't. I remember the chubby beard of depression he had on his face.

One good thing about Gil. His number. I have ZERO respect for him now and thats after having little respect fro him before. If he was a man, he would publicly apologize at a min. Even better would shut his trap and let the Wizards have the spotlight they earned instead of interjecting himself into the conversation.

But to Gil, its all just about him getting his name in the public which he did. Because before this, no one was talking about him. Like a bad kid, any attention is better then no attention.

Congratulations on a first-rate demonstration of how to be a sanctimonious blowhard. Gilbert is joking around and being a fan, nothing more. Everyone knows this. Except you apparently. But, you really do know. It's just an opportunity for you to pretend like this fits into the nonsensical blather you posted about Arenas in yesteryear. Blech.

[pineappleheadindc]

I find it funny that people/reporters have been criticizing Hibbert but when players like T-Mac/Arenas do it, they call out their history (hasn't played a significant role in getting to the second round and gun gate). Truth is they have their right to an opinion which is that Hibbert needed to step up. They have more of a right to call them out then fans who call out players. Not sure what T-Mac and Arenas are doing that is so bad.

Only thing about talking trash though is it looks bad when Hibbert puts up a monster night (with the help of some extra steps). I'm glad the current Wizard players aren't calling out Roy Hibbert like those guys.

Why would that be ?

Actually its the exact opposite.

They should have some professional courtesy. Specially Gil considering how badly he screwed up.

And just from a human decency aspect, if Hibbert was really emotionally messed up over personal stuff, then publicly spamming him is just the sign of a sick individual. Has he forgotten what he went through publicly ? I haven't. I remember the chubby beard of depression he had on his face.

One good thing about Gil. His number. I have ZERO respect for him now and thats after having little respect fro him before. If he was a man, he would publicly apologize at a min. Even better would shut his trap and let the Wizards have the spotlight they earned instead of interjecting himself into the conversation.

But to Gil, its all just about him getting his name in the public which he did. Because before this, no one was talking about him. Like a bad kid, any attention is better then no attention.

Congratulations on a first-rate demonstration of how to be a sanctimonious blowhard. Gilbert is joking around and being a fan, nothing more. Everyone knows this. Except you apparently. But, you really do know. It's just an opportunity for you to pretend like this fits into the nonsensical blather you posted about Arenas in yesteryear. Blech.

[montestewart]

I find it funny that people/reporters have been criticizing Hibbert but when players like T-Mac/Arenas do it, they call out their history (hasn't played a significant role in getting to the second round and gun gate). Truth is they have their right to an opinion which is that Hibbert needed to step up. They have more of a right to call them out then fans who call out players. Not sure what T-Mac and Arenas are doing that is so bad.

Only thing about talking trash though is it looks bad when Hibbert puts up a monster night (with the help of some extra steps). I'm glad the current Wizard players aren't calling out Roy Hibbert like those guys.

Why would that be ?

Actually its the exact opposite.

They should have some professional courtesy. Specially Gil considering how badly he screwed up.

And just from a human decency aspect, if Hibbert was really emotionally messed up over personal stuff, then publicly spamming him is just the sign of a sick individual. Has he forgotten what he went through publicly ? I haven't. I remember the chubby beard of depression he had on his face.

One good thing about Gil. His number. I have ZERO respect for him now and thats after having little respect fro him before. If he was a man, he would publicly apologize at a min. Even better would shut his trap and let the Wizards have the spotlight they earned instead of interjecting himself into the conversation.

But to Gil, its all just about him getting his name in the public which he did. Because before this, no one was talking about him. Like a bad kid, any attention is better then no attention.

Congratulations on a first-rate demonstration of how to be a sanctimonious blowhard. Gilbert is joking around and being a fan, nothing more. Everyone knows this. Except you apparently. But, you really do know. It's just an opportunity for you to pretend like this fits into the nonsensical blather you posted about Arenas in yesteryear. Blech.

On the contrary, after Gil came back from suspension, hands was one of his biggest supporters.

If you say I don't like Gilbert, you don't read much here.

As for this year, I was for keeping him all along. As for him staying LT, I'm not sold that isn't a good idea.

I totally support Gil being here and thing is will be exciting to watch again.

I don't know exactly what happened, but somehow, Gil hurt hands. Gil hurt hands bad.

[hands11]

I find it funny that people/reporters have been criticizing Hibbert but when players like T-Mac/Arenas do it, they call out their history (hasn't played a significant role in getting to the second round and gun gate). Truth is they have their right to an opinion which is that Hibbert needed to step up. They have more of a right to call them out then fans who call out players. Not sure what T-Mac and Arenas are doing that is so bad.

Only thing about talking trash though is it looks bad when Hibbert puts up a monster night (with the help of some extra steps). I'm glad the current Wizard players aren't calling out Roy Hibbert like those guys.

Why would that be ?

Actually its the exact opposite.

They should have some professional courtesy. Specially Gil considering how badly he screwed up.

And just from a human decency aspect, if Hibbert was really emotionally messed up over personal stuff, then publicly spamming him is just the sign of a sick individual. Has he forgotten what he went through publicly ? I haven't. I remember the chubby beard of depression he had on his face.

One good thing about Gil. His number. I have ZERO respect for him now and thats after having little respect fro him before. If he was a man, he would publicly apologize at a min. Even better would shut his trap and let the Wizards have the spotlight they earned instead of interjecting himself into the conversation.

But to Gil, its all just about him getting his name in the public which he did. Because before this, no one was talking about him. Like a bad kid, any attention is better then no attention.

If you hate on Gilbert, then that's a bit hypocritical. He's a human too.

Gilbert had the same thing go on with him when he played poorly- there was a rumor that Shaq slept with his wife.

Now he's just a fan like everyone else. He's allowed to post random stats criticizing players he chooses. Of course he opens himself up for criticism for his past mistakes whenever he's in the public spotlight again.

Basketball is a bunch of trash talking anyways like KG talking about Carmelo's wife.

No no no. He is not just a fan like everyone else. If he was, no one would be talking about him. He is an X NBA AS. And the last franchise player this team had before they acquired the one they have now. He was the one that was the main reason the team blow up to rebuild. HE IS NOT JUST SOME OTHER FAN. How can you say that ?

And I don't hate on Gil. Even after everything he did, I still wished him peace in his personal life. I hoped he healed from the emotional trauma that was thrown on him from his childhood abandonment. I truly feel for people that have that kind of bad crap happen to them.

What I take issue with is what he does publicly like what he just did.

As for getting over what he did to the team, that's a lot easier to do given the team they have now is better then any team he was a part of and its something structured better moving forward. What I take issue with is him forcing his name back into the conversation with his childish antics. If Roy went 0 and 0 the entire series I would have been fine. No need to give a player like that any extra motivational material. You don't wake a sleep giant. You let them sleep.

[hands11]

Why would that be ?

Actually its the exact opposite.

They should have some professional courtesy. Specially Gil considering how badly he screwed up.

And just from a human decency aspect, if Hibbert was really emotionally messed up over personal stuff, then publicly spamming him is just the sign of a sick individual. Has he forgotten what he went through publicly ? I haven't. I remember the chubby beard of depression he had on his face.

One good thing about Gil. His number. I have ZERO respect for him now and thats after having little respect fro him before. If he was a man, he would publicly apologize at a min. Even better would shut his trap and let the Wizards have the spotlight they earned instead of interjecting himself into the conversation.

But to Gil, its all just about him getting his name in the public which he did. Because before this, no one was talking about him. Like a bad kid, any attention is better then no attention.

Congratulations on a first-rate demonstration of how to be a sanctimonious blowhard. Gilbert is joking around and being a fan, nothing more. Everyone knows this. Except you apparently. But, you really do know. It's just an opportunity for you to pretend like this fits into the nonsensical blather you posted about Arenas in yesteryear. Blech.

On the contrary, after Gil came back from suspension, hands was one of his biggest supporters.

If you say I don't like Gilbert, you don't read much here.

As for this year, I was for keeping him all along. As for him staying LT, I'm not sold that isn't a good idea.

I totally support Gil being here and thing is will be exciting to watch again.

I don't know exactly what happened, but somehow, Gil hurt hands. Gil hurt hands bad.

You are right. I had wished for the best regarding Gil, that is true. I was always hoping his light bulb would go one before it was to late. Dude had some serious emotional trauma laid at his feet that he didn't choose to have happen to him.

I get a sense Hibbert struggles with some emotional trauma as well. I don't know his history at all really but I have seen him interviewed. Something isn't right there.

Hey, if Gil want to take shots at Kobe or someone similar that can handle it, go for it. But picking on someone like Hibbert is just being a bully which is really just being a punk.

[hands11]

Why would that be ?

Actually its the exact opposite.

They should have some professional courtesy. Specially Gil considering how badly he screwed up.

And just from a human decency aspect, if Hibbert was really emotionally messed up over personal stuff, then publicly spamming him is just the sign of a sick individual. Has he forgotten what he went through publicly ? I haven't. I remember the chubby beard of depression he had on his face.

One good thing about Gil. His number. I have ZERO respect for him now and thats after having little respect fro him before. If he was a man, he would publicly apologize at a min. Even better would shut his trap and let the Wizards have the spotlight they earned instead of interjecting himself into the conversation.

But to Gil, its all just about him getting his name in the public which he did. Because before this, no one was talking about him. Like a bad kid, any attention is better then no attention.

Congratulations on a first-rate demonstration of how to be a sanctimonious blowhard. Gilbert is joking around and being a fan, nothing more. Everyone knows this. Except you apparently. But, you really do know. It's just an opportunity for you to pretend like this fits into the nonsensical blather you posted about Arenas in yesteryear. Blech.

One a published writer
One an X mod

Two supposed senior members of the board, and anyone wonder why with the Wizards in the 2nd round, the game thread has only two pages of posts. Man, this place reminds me more and more of the old board I used to read by the day.

Classy guys.

[pineappleheadindc]

^

The published writer is one published by WashingtonPost for his basketball knowledge. Sports illustrated too. And he's been broadcast on Wizards post game shows based on his basketball smarts. You, not so much.

If the board suffers, it's because there are one too many folks like Hands, a blowhard who acts as though posting volume equals knowledge. That kind of stupidity would surely hinder board growth.

You don't like it? This is a completely voluntary activity.

[dobrojim]

you guys are not taking advantage of one of the better features RealGM has which
allows you to improve the content that you read. It actually has synergistic
effects that can multiply and enhance its effectiveness. You've both been around
long enough to have some idea what I am talking about. This isn't necessary.

[AWIZZINGBULLET]

The first time Gil hazes the guy trying to cure AIDS, I will be the first to say he's gone too far. As long as Gil is playfully running down our opponent in a game of bouncing a rubber ball (like every other dude in a sports bar), I'm happy to laugh along. But, if he starts chiding brain surgeons while at work, I will muster up the fake outrage.

Don't know if you're suggesting that there's false outrage being expressed towards Arenas, hope not, because it's really just simple annoyance.

It's nice that he still 'supports' his former team, but I don't like knowing that he's attaching himself and his old antics to this new era of Wizards players/coaches.

He's free to tweet and I'm free to be annoyed by him 'contributing' to the team by way of trolling its opponents...

[hands11]

^

The published writer is one published by WashingtonPost for his basketball knowledge. Sports illustrated too. And he's been broadcast on Wizards post game shows based on his basketball smarts. You, not so much.

If the board suffers, it's because there are one too many folks like Hands, a blowhard who acts as though posting volume equals knowledge. That kind of stupidity would surely hinder board growth.

You don't like it? This is a completely voluntary activity.

Except it was me starting a thread to roll out the red carpet for new members and who many voted as more optimistic. Right. I'm the one holding the board back. Got it. Meanwhile we get an X mod attacking and loyal contributing member like me with the kind of stuff you just posted. Calling me not smart, a blowhard.

And if I'm not mistaken, you just did a long post in the EG thread that mimics views I have been posting for a while. So if what I post is stupid, you just joined the stupid club.

But welcome aboard.

As for published writers ( not taking a shot at Niv at all .. just saying in general ) we talk all the time about how these people get it wrong. TV voices, published writer, etc. Hell we talk about other GMs. They hold jobs in their field as well.

Having a job in a field does not equal better insight into all aspects of that topic. Just because you know someone doesn't change that.

What I do expect from a person like that though it more access. They might get information first.

[hands11]

you guys are not taking advantage of one of the better features RealGM has which
allows you to improve the content that you read. It actually has synergistic
effects that can multiply and enhance its effectiveness. You've both been around
long enough to have some idea what I am talking about. This isn't necessary.

LOL

Spoken like a true statesman.