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Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II

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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#261 » by nate33 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:00 am

Bickerstaff wrote:Here are the unrestricted PGs:

Wow, none of those guys really intrigue me from a cost/benefits perspective. The quality vets that might actually be a good mentor for Wall are too expensive. The less lower tier guys aren't really any better than Mack.

The one guy on the list that might actually be a decent fit is Kirk Hinrich because he can steal some minutes at SG. I don't get the feeling he really enjoyed his stint here last time, so I'm not so sure he'd agree to come here again unless we overpay.
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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#262 » by jivelikenice » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:00 am

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jivelikenice wrote:I hope they target Meeks/ Singleton/ and Cartier. How much do we have to spend assuming they amnesty Dray?


Can't imagine anywhere near enough to sign Meeks.


I don't think he'll cost much. I guess we'll see
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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#263 » by nate33 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:03 am

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Beal notwithstanding, we still have about the most unbalanced roster in the league.

Where are the friggin shooters? How are we going to space the floor to take advantage of Wall's unique traits?

I give up. Why, I might even go so far as to... to... to go to bed for the night and stop posting.

I don't think we're THAT unbalanced. My main beef is that Singleton and Ariza are too similar. Both are 3&D role players who are pretty good at the D, but not so good at the 3. If one of them could be swapped for an equivalent player who was better at the 3 and worse at the D, we'd be pretty well-balanced.

We should also add one more spot-up shooting wing like Cartier Martin.
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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#264 » by Wallbeliever » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:40 am

We need 1 more combo guard , preferably a 3 pt shooter, we dont yet know the potential of this team. It would not surprise me if Seraphin, Vesely, Singleton and most importantly Wall improve in their roles.

Wall is a passing Westbrook with a horribly broken shot while simultaneously being the key to everything, drafting Beal was a great move that should only help improve the 1 (Wall) decent chance of leading us into the top 4 in the near future.
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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#265 » by Dat2U » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:40 am

nate33 wrote:
Bickerstaff wrote:Here are the unrestricted PGs:

Wow, none of those guys really intrigue me from a cost/benefits perspective. The quality vets that might actually be a good mentor for Wall are too expensive. The less lower tier guys aren't really any better than Mack.

The one guy on the list that might actually be a decent fit is Kirk Hinrich because he can steal some minutes at SG. I don't get the feeling he really enjoyed his stint here last time, so I'm not so sure he'd agree to come here again unless we overpay.


Not interested in replaying that tune. Hinrich is just another guy these days. Not much separates him from the Blake Ahearn's of the world except for the familiar name on the back of the jersey. I'd rather go for someone that actually has something left in the tank.

I'd be looking for a scoring minded PG behind Wall. Someone that's not afraid to put up shots. If money was not an issue I'd say Lou Williams, but a cheaper version of him may be John Lucas.
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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#266 » by Severn Hoos » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:52 am

How about a CCJ daily double, bring Machado & Shurna to the Summer League, and we'll forget about the blank Czech at #32?
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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#267 » by jivelikenice » Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:06 am

According to Michael Lee it sounds like the Czech might play in SL. I'm excited to see how he does.

Wallbeliever, what about J Pargo from the Hawks? He's a guy that can fill it up on occasion.

Another guy to consider is Josh Childress. He'll be amnestied and probably can be had on the cheap. I'd take him as a backup SF to compete with Singleton.
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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#268 » by Hoopalotta » Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:35 am

jivelikenice wrote:According to Michael Lee it sounds like the Czech might play in SL. I'm excited to see how he does.

Wallbeliever, what about J Pargo from the Hawks? He's a guy that can fill it up on occasion.

Another guy to consider is Josh Childress. He'll be amnestied and probably can be had on the cheap. I'd take him as a backup SF to compete with Singleton.


I don't think Childress actually makes it to free agency as he'll probably get claimed off waivers if he's amnestied for cheap. So, he'd be on the hook for three years for whatever the highest bidder paid.

And, even if we wanted to - hold down Tontoz! - we don't have any cap space to make a claim. That's not even getting into fit.

I hope we think about a guard on a one or two year deal for some portion of the MLE (two years is OK if we move Nene at some point over the next one and a half years; otherwise, gotta be just one year).

If we can't find anyone, don't spend the money just to spend it, but someone like Barbosa could make a difference for not a huge pile of money.
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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#269 » by nate33 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:22 pm

Hoopalotta wrote:I hope we think about a guard on a one or two year deal for some portion of the MLE (two years is OK if we move Nene at some point over the next one and a half years; otherwise, gotta be just one year).

A two year deal won't give us any cap problems if we amnesty Dray next summer.
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Post#270 » by Hoopalotta » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:55 pm

^ For a one year versus two year deal, I was thinking specifically in terms of having a large slab of cap space in either 2013 or 2014.

Unfortunately, Ernie mentioned Crawford by name right after the draft while talking about Beal, so I don't think we're going to sign a guard for real money.

I did notice that San Antionio never picked up the 3rd year option on James Anderson. You know, the same James Anderson who was taken 20th in the 2010 draft and a much, much better pick than Seraphin because, well, after all, the Spurs picked him, right?

That sounds like a good guy to bring in for competing against Cartier as he's probably about big enough for spot minutes at the 3. If he can find his shot.....
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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#271 » by hands11 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:56 pm

nate33 wrote:
Bickerstaff wrote:Here are the unrestricted PGs:

Wow, none of those guys really intrigue me from a cost/benefits perspective. The quality vets that might actually be a good mentor for Wall are too expensive. The less lower tier guys aren't really any better than Mack.

The one guy on the list that might actually be a decent fit is Kirk Hinrich because he can steal some minutes at SG. I don't get the feeling he really enjoyed his stint here last time, so I'm not so sure he'd agree to come here again unless we overpay.


This is a different team then when Kirk was here last time so I'm not sure how much last time would factor in. A vet back up PG would no doubt help. They would get a better start to the season. Just not sure if they will pull the trigger on that just yet. If they did, they would have to cut Mack. Not sure they are ready to do that just yet. Macks job is surely on the line. He better be really working on his J because if he can't shoot better, he is gone.

Sam is Wall's day to day vet to talk to. Plus he has NBA friends and can watch tape. And it won't be much longer before Wall is his own vet. I want a better back up for the team to be more productive more then I think they need on for Wall to be more productive. I think he already turned the corner at the end of last year. He is working hard on his J this summer and word is it got a lot better.

I would guess by the trade deadline they will decide if they will keep Mack or move on with a better back up.
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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#272 » by Bickerstaff » Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:36 pm

nate33 wrote:
Bickerstaff wrote:Here are the unrestricted PGs:

Wow, none of those guys really intrigue me from a cost/benefits perspective. The quality vets that might actually be a good mentor for Wall are too expensive. The less lower tier guys aren't really any better than Mack.


I agree, though I'd say they were expensive. Who knows what will happen during the offseason? If some of the young Wizards look like they're making big strides over the summer and other teams' rosters start filling up, this could be an intriguing destination. But, yeah, picking are pretty slim and there are better teams with more minutes to offer. I'm not comfortable with Crawford as the 3rd guard/lead scorer off the bench yet, though.
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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#273 » by jivelikenice » Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:02 am

My FA wish list is Pargo, Cartier, and J Singleton.

If we make a waiver claim on Childress for say $1-2 MM per, can we do that and stay under the luxury tax next yr? Frankly though, I'd take Childress and Cartier over Singleton....I would just give him to a team w/ cap space for a conditional pick. I really think he'll never contribute...
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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#274 » by Upper Decker » Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:52 pm

Colangelo basically admits he's amnestying Calderon. I really think the Wiz should place a bid. I don't know the cap situation and whether they'd have enough for Calderon and Martin/Mason/Almond, but Calderon at 1 year for 3-4 million is a great deal. He perfectly compliments Wall as the back up. Good deep shooter, albeit streaky, steady, get's teammates involved.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/raptors-to-amnesty-calderon-nash-nex
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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#275 » by nate33 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:19 pm

Upper Decker wrote:Colangelo basically admits he's amnestying Calderon. I really think the Wiz should place a bid. I don't know the cap situation and whether they'd have enough for Calderon and Martin/Mason/Almond, but Calderon at 1 year for 3-4 million is a great deal. He perfectly compliments Wall as the back up. Good deep shooter, albeit streaky, steady, get's teammates involved.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/raptors-to-amnesty-calderon-nash-nex

Yes. Calderon would be a good fit. One problem is that, now that we're over the cap, we have to move to the back of the line on the waivers process. Under the cap teams get to bid first.

I'd also see if Ray Allen would come here on a 1-year deal (we'd probably have to overpay, but it doesn't matter if it's just for 1 year).
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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#276 » by closg00 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:39 pm

Prada has a pretty good blog on the state of the cap.
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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#277 » by sfam » Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:31 pm

Calderon would be a really nice fit. We'd definitely need to Amnesty Blatche. But honestly, given the choice between two, I might prefer taking a flyer on Jeff Green to see if he has some potential left, and whether he fits with what we're doing.
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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#278 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Sun Jul 1, 2012 1:00 am

Hey, Rashard Lewis is a free agent. Should we go after him?
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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#279 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Sun Jul 1, 2012 1:10 am

Agree a backup pg should be a free agency priority. What about Jonny Flynn? I'd also be ok with Hinrich, or possibly TJ Ford.

In addition to adding another pg I'd be happy with bringing back Mason and Evans, which I'm kind of assuming, then amnestying Blatche and replacing him with James Singleton.
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Re: Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II 

Post#280 » by Terpman » Sun Jul 1, 2012 1:25 am

I'd resign JSingleton, CMartin, and Roger Mason. Lets go to war with OUR guys.

The only FA out there besides them that I'd LOVE to get is Steve Novak (at least I think Novak is a FA..?)
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