NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 2

[GhostsOfGil]

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[tontoz]

Up 5 with 22 seconds left and lose. That is going to be hard to come back from.

[verbal8]

Up 5 with 22 seconds left and lose. That is going to be hard to come back from.

If any team can come back from it, it would be the Spurs.

If Bosh and LeBron come out with killer instinct and home court, it will be tough.

[LyricalRico]

Up 5 with 22 seconds left and lose. That is going to be hard to come back from.

If any team can come back from it, it would be the Spurs.

If Bosh and LeBron come out with killer instinct and home court, it will be tough.

Agreed. Terrible loss, but the Spurs will be fine IMO. The big question is will Miami come out and take it (which they are capable of doing), or will they play like they expect it to be handed to them?

And with regard to Duncan limping, remember that Wade banged knees and was out a bit as well.

[jimij]

Agreed Lyrical, if any team can come back from such a heartbreaker its the Spurs. Conversely if there is any team that will take that type of comeback with a "manifest destiny" approach and then come out sluggishly expecting it to be handed to them on a platter its the Heat. Miami seems to only rise to the occaision and after after such a gut punch to the Spurs I could easily see Miami coming out passive and overconfident in Game 7. Hopefully the Spurs can take advantage.

[LyricalRico]

I could easily see Miami coming out passive and overconfident in Game 7. Hopefully the Spurs can take advantage.

[Ruzious]

Epic choke is epic. Lebron, completely anti clutch. No balls, twice passing up jumpers in favor of poor passes.

Way to pass the buck.

Meh. Yes, those were 2 terrible turnovers in the last 40 seconds or so of regulation (though the 2nd one seemed like Bosh wasn't where he was supposed to be), but be fair - James was great for the rest of the 4th quarter.

I thought it was a great game with everyone giving every ounce of effort they could - so I have a hard time criticising anyone.

Everyone wants to criticise James for not being Jordan, but their styles and personalities are different, so he can't be Jordan.

[verbal8]

Miami must have the worst fans of any NBA team:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball- ... 52669.html

[LyricalRico]

Miami must have the worst fans of any NBA team:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball- ... 52669.html

Fans worthy of LeBron.

[dandridge 10]

Epic choke is epic. Lebron, completely anti clutch. No balls, twice passing up jumpers in favor of poor passes.

Way to pass the buck.

Meh. Yes, those were 2 terrible turnovers in the last 40 seconds or so of regulation (though the 2nd one seemed like Bosh wasn't where he was supposed to be), but be fair - James was great for the rest of the 4th quarter.

I thought it was a great game with everyone giving every ounce of effort they could - so I have a hard time criticising anyone.

Everyone wants to criticise James for not being Jordan, but their styles and personalities are different, so he can't be Jordan.

To me, the biggest difference between Jordan and LeBron offensively is that Jordan typically scored based on elite shooting, being crafty, and athletic ability. LeBron gets most of his points off of transition and bulling through people because of his size. Honestly, if the refs called it correctly, LeBron would foul out just about every game. He just bulls over people to get to the rim. He constantly uses his off arm to shove people out of the way, either getting position down low or driving to the rim. To me, LeBron is great offensively because he is so darn big and athletic, not because he is so skilled. Jordan was great offensively because he was that skilled.

[dandridge 10]

Epic choke is epic. Lebron, completely anti clutch. No balls, twice passing up jumpers in favor of poor passes.

Way to pass the buck.

Meh. Yes, those were 2 terrible turnovers in the last 40 seconds or so of regulation (though the 2nd one seemed like Bosh wasn't where he was supposed to be), but be fair - James was great for the rest of the 4th quarter.

I thought it was a great game with everyone giving every ounce of effort they could - so I have a hard time criticising anyone.

Everyone wants to criticise James for not being Jordan, but their styles and personalities are different, so he can't be Jordan.

To me, the biggest difference between Jordan and LeBron offensively is that Jordan typically scored based on elite shooting, being crafty, and athletic ability. LeBron gets most of his points off of transition and bulling through people because of his size. Honestly, if the refs called it correctly, LeBron would foul out just about every game. He just bulls over people to get to the rim. He constantly uses his off arm to shove people out of the way, either getting position down low or driving to the rim. To me, LeBron is great offensively because he is so darn big and athletic, not because he is so skilled. Jordan was great offensively because he was that skilled.

[Upper Decker]

I'm anti-heat so I'm disappointed by the outcome last night, however, I'm not sure about you, but that was one of the most sensationally entertaining games I've ever seen in my life. There were so many clutch plays, fantastic athletic displays of powering through contact, individual moments of greatness, coaching moves, counter-coaching moves, counters to the counters, dumb plays, choke jobs, revival from choke jobs, breath-taking moments, and then Allen's iconic 3-pointer--it was a fabulous game. There was more suspense, intrigue, passion, excitement in this one game than the entire 2013 NCAA tournament. I only hope that game 7 is this great, but that the Spurs come out on top!

[verbal8]

I'm anti-heat so I'm disappointed by the outcome last night, however, I'm not sure about you, but that was one of the most sensationally entertaining games I've ever seen in my life. There were so many clutch plays, fantastic athletic displays of powering through contact, individual moments of greatness, coaching moves, counter-coaching moves, counters to the counters, dumb plays, choke jobs, revival from choke jobs, breath-taking moments, and then Allen's iconic 3-pointer--it was a fabulous game. There was more suspense, intrigue, passion, excitement in this one game than the entire 2013 NCAA tournament. I only hope that game 7 is this great, but that the Spurs come out on top!

Other than a different outcome, you couldn't ask for a better game. So much for the Spurs being boring

[deneem4]

Sht felt lik wwe...headband comes off he goes crazy, fxk this **** john cena now?

[Ruzious]

Epic choke is epic. Lebron, completely anti clutch. No balls, twice passing up jumpers in favor of poor passes.

Way to pass the buck.

Meh. Yes, those were 2 terrible turnovers in the last 40 seconds or so of regulation (though the 2nd one seemed like Bosh wasn't where he was supposed to be), but be fair - James was great for the rest of the 4th quarter.

I thought it was a great game with everyone giving every ounce of effort they could - so I have a hard time criticising anyone.

Everyone wants to criticise James for not being Jordan, but their styles and personalities are different, so he can't be Jordan.

To me, the biggest difference between Jordan and LeBron offensively is that Jordan typically scored based on elite shooting, being crafty, and athletic ability. LeBron gets most of his points off of transition and bulling through people because of his size. Honestly, if the refs called it correctly, LeBron would foul out just about every game. He just bulls over people to get to the rim. He constantly uses his off arm to shove people out of the way, either getting position down low or driving to the rim. To me, LeBron is great offensively because he is so darn big and athletic, not because he is so skilled. Jordan was great offensively because he was that skilled.

Oh please. 2 of Jordan's most famous moments were after he cleared out his defender with his off arm. Jordan took advantage of anything he could get away with - just like most players do. If he were as strong as Lebron, he'd have used that to his advantage regardless of what the rules are. People complained about Jordan back in the day just like they do about Lebron now. There was even a term invented for what Jordan got away with - Jordan's Rules. And as far as bulling people over, Lebron isn't even close to the same universe as Shaq was.

[Nivek]

One of my favorite Jordan stories goes something like this. The Knicks (I think it was the Knicks anyway) complained after a game that Jordan was getting all the calls from the refs. A reporter doing what reporters do brought the comments back to Jordan.

Jordan's response to the notion that refs were favoring him: "So?"

[dandridge 10]

Ruzious, I'm not saying that Jordan never used an off arm or pushed off. Just that it seems to me LeBron does it a lot more. And, I agree with you on Shaq. I didn't like him doing it either, just like I don't like seeing LeBron get away with it. The funny thing is that I always hated Iverson for doing the same thing. He always cleared space for himself by using his off arm to push off. I just wish the refs would call it more frequently, because it unfairly give the offensive player an advantage.

[nate33]

There was even a term invented for what Jordan got away with - Jordan's Rules. And as far as bulling people over, Lebron isn't even close to the same universe as Shaq was.

I thought the Jordan Rules were the rules applied by Detroit when defending Jordan. Guard him with two or three players if necessary, but force someone else to beat you.

[jivelikenice]

^You're right. The Jordan rules were the rules used by the Pistons to physically wear on MJ. Sam Smith took that term and made a book out of it about the Bulls '91 season, but the term originated with the Badboys....

[Ruzious]

^You're right. The Jordan rules were the rules used by the Pistons to physically wear on MJ. Sam Smith took that term and made a book out of it about the Bulls '91 season, but the term originated with the Badboys....

Yes, and the point is that term became known for what Jordan got away with. The origin is interesting, but it's irrelevant to the previous discussion.