Bradley Beal - Part II

tontoz · Post #261 » by **tontoz** » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:46 pm

jangles86 wrote:This is heartbreaking.

John Wall is going to need to show us what he's made out of now. This is it. This is his time to put up or shut up

Spacing is going to take a major hit with Beal out. Teams were forced to run him off the 3 point line because he was lighting it up from 3. Now they will be able to pack in the defense.

Knighthonor · Post #262 » by **Knighthonor** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:55 am

AFM wrote:You know what rhymes with Bradley Beal?

Badly heal.

Safe to say at this point this kid is a bust. This injury is probably career ending for all we know.

Sitting him is the best thing for the Wizards.

no need to push for a playoff low seed right now.

Better to build for the future rather than the present.

Sitting him, means less wins. Less wins, mean better chance at getting franchise talent in the draft.

FA dont want to come here. Draft talent have no choice, and any many cases feel welcomed.

Nene wont be here for long, along with many other names on the roster. Time ti continue building.

nuposse04 · Post #263 » by **nuposse04** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:38 am

doclinkin wrote:
nuposse04 wrote:if its a stress reaction, it is usually a 3-4 week healing time I think. God I hope the MRI comes back negative and I don't have to shove a spoon up my ass.

Just thought this should not go un-noted...

helps me cope with the pain. Always better to hurt elsewhere.

AFM · Post #264 » by **AFM** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:44 am

Wait, that's supposed to hurt? Always kind of tickled when I did it.

nuposse04 · Post #265 » by **nuposse04** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:46 am

AFM wrote:Wait, that's supposed to hurt? Always kind of tickled when I did it.

you must be using an un-rusted teaspoon. Step your game up.

dlts20 · Post #266 » by **dlts20** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:53 am

Im not in the mood to search this thread so forgive me if already posted but I saw this on a fantasy bball forum from a poster. Its a quote from somewhere but it doesnt have the souce. It makes alot of sense to me actually because he definitely looks like he's grown alot in a short period. Almost looks lanky at times or taller & slimmer:

A source close to Beal speculated that the recent leg injuries could also be a result of the 20-year-old still physically maturing. Beal actually grew an inch last summer, but doesn’t expect the problems with his leg to become chronic. “I’m not afraid of it escalating any higher than it is, or just recurring after this, but at the same time, I have to be prepared for it because injuries like this do happen to a lot of athletes and a lot of people,” Beal said. “If that happens, I am prepared for it mentally and if that happens, I’ll deal with it but for right now, I’m really not concerned about it

nuposse04 · Post #267 » by **nuposse04** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:59 am

Kids break bones easier I believe cause their bones aren't completely done solidifying. While Beal is hardly a kid, it is a plausible reason why the threat remains. We may be able to extract a half inch or inch out of Beal still. Not something to bet on.

dckingsfan · Post #268 » by **dckingsfan** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:17 am

Which brings us to the "minute limitation"... "I’ve been playing non-stop...playing a lot of minutes, so that constant stress & that pounding on my leg has been influential."

I think they need to keep him under 20 minutes a game for awhile. Let Ariza/Webster start and play heavy minutes this season.

Well, it's a thought...

20MexicanosIn1Van · Post #269 » by **20MexicanosIn1Van** » Wed Dec 4, 2013 5:21 pm

I've been thinking about how to fix our bench woes. When he returns, why not have Beal be a super-sub and come off the bench?

Post #270 » by **nate33** » Wed Dec 4, 2013 5:36 pm

I still like Beal starting. The long term goal is to develop Beal and the Beal/Wall combo, even if one can make an argument that we're better starting Ariza and Webster.

I think we can make an effort to stagger when Beal and Wall rest so that we usually have one of them on the floor, but bringing Beal off the bench isn't essential to fix our bench woes. I think the more important thing is to make sure Nene is on the floor with the second unit.

stevemcqueen1 · Post #271 » by **stevemcqueen1** » Wed Dec 4, 2013 5:53 pm

Beal is our future star SG. You don't do anything to mess with that. He should stay the starter and keep his role. The only reason to demote him to the bench is if he just tanked.

long suffrin' boulez fan · Post #272 » by **long suffrin' boulez fan** » Wed Dec 4, 2013 6:32 pm

Looking at the wiretap makes me think Beal ought to start wearing a kevlar glove on his left hand.

Post #273 » by **Rafael122** » Wed Dec 4, 2013 6:46 pm

stevemcqueen1 wrote:Beal is our future star SG. You don't do anything to mess with that. He should stay the starter and keep his role. The only reason to demote him to the bench is if he just tanked.

You want him healthy first and foremost. He shouldn't be playing 40 minutes a game. If this team is still on a roll when he comes back, I think you ease him back in by bringing him off the bench.

Post #274 » by **nate33** » Wed Dec 4, 2013 7:08 pm

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Looking at the wiretap makes me think Beal ought to start wearing a kevlar glove on his left hand.

It's like the Terminator is systematically breaking every 2012 draft pick's left hand.

deneem4 · Post #275 » by **deneem4** » Wed Dec 4, 2013 7:15 pm

Beal is a go to shooter, without him on the floor martell is our next option but hes not a go to option...so essentially with beal out we have to actually run an offense instead of screens to free him...make our offense a lil less un predictable

dobrojim · Post #276 » by **dobrojim** » Wed Dec 4, 2013 8:18 pm

deneem4 wrote:Beal is a go to shooter, without him on the floor martell is our next option but hes not a go to option...so essentially with beal out we have to actually run an offense instead of screens to free him...make our offense a lil less un predictable

Is this what the advanced numbers say or is this based only on what you think
to be the case?

I seem to recall that the advanced numbers didn't make a compelling case
for him being quite as great as many of us fans thought. Don't get me wrong,
I love the kid and think he has a great future ahead of him. But let's not
automatically believe our lying eyes.

That said, both Webster and BB both benefit GREATLY from playing
with John who spoonfeeds them quality looks on a regular basis.

Jay81 · Post #277 » by **Jay81** » Wed Dec 4, 2013 8:27 pm

is anyone concerned that his PPA is so low? It feels like the PPA numbers dont like him...this year or last year..

J-Ves · Post #278 » by **J-Ves** » Wed Dec 4, 2013 9:04 pm

Jay81 wrote:is anyone concerned that his PPA is so low? It feels like the PPA numbers dont like him...this year or last year..

No, not concerned. Last year his first 2 months killed his overall efficiency, but he was fantastic the rest of the year. This year it's just a matter of shot selection. He needs to maximize his 3 pt attempts while shooting less long 2s off the dribble. This guy is an amazing shooter, I expect him to be considered one of the top SGs by PPA and any other per minute stat by the end of the season.

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deneem4 · Post #279 » by **deneem4** » Thu Dec 5, 2013 6:42 am

dobrojim wrote:
deneem4 wrote:Beal is a go to shooter, without him on the floor martell is our next option but hes not a go to option...so essentially with beal out we have to actually run an offense instead of screens to free him...make our offense a lil less un predictable

Is this what the advanced numbers say or is this based only on what you think
to be the case?

I seem to recall that the advanced numbers didn't make a compelling case
for him being quite as great as many of us fans thought. Don't get me wrong,
I love the kid and think he has a great future ahead of him. But let's not
automatically believe our lying eyes.

That said, both Webster and BB both benefit GREATLY from playing
with John who spoonfeeds them quality looks on a regular basis.

The stats say martell is the next best shooter and I KNOW hes the next best shooting option...our team treat beal as a goto shooting option which means if he has even a bit of space, its in...other teams treat beal tht way as well, thts y our offense has so many screens included for beal to run through alot, martell is our nxt best shooter but not a focal point like beal is. All this if fact, im not sure what you're debating

verbal8 · Post #280 » by **verbal8** » Thu Dec 5, 2013 1:01 pm

J-Ves wrote:
Jay81 wrote:is anyone concerned that his PPA is so low? It feels like the PPA numbers dont like him...this year or last year..

No, not concerned. Last year his first 2 months killed his overall efficiency, but he was fantastic the rest of the year. This year it's just a matter of shot selection. He needs to maximize his 3 pt attempts while shooting less long 2s off the dribble. This guy is an amazing shooter, I expect him to be considered one of the top SGs by PPA and any other per minute stat by the end of the season.

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It is pretty clear that Beal will be a great shooter. I think the big question is can he become a great scorer. To do this he needs to find a way to score inside consistently. Even Ray Allen gets about 20% of his offense inside. A guy like Webster can make his living from open jumpers, but Beal is too important a part of the offense to be a 1 dimensional scorer.