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The Official Eric Maynor Shrine

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How Pungent Is The Suck Emanating From Eric Maynor

Meh,I know it's there but it doesn't bother me...like a dirty sock.
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It's foul. I cringe every time he plays
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22%
It's mind boggling that this guy is a basketball player
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25%
Truly Epic...like no suck we've seen before
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35%
 
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Re: Eric Maynor...Giving Our Opponents The Power Play. 

Post#261 » by J-Ves » Mon Dec 2, 2013 3:59 pm

Maynor on this team is made especially frustrating when you consider Mack, Crawford, and Price would all be better options at back up point guard. And the fact all three of those guys are cheaper then Maynor. And the fact the 2 million player option for next year could conceivably affect the Wizards options in free agency.

Just layers upon layers of suck by EG. Really outdid himself this year.


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Re: Eric Maynor...Giving Our Opponents The Power Play. 

Post#262 » by wizardry » Mon Dec 2, 2013 4:13 pm

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wizardry wrote:Maynor was able to join the worst bench in the league last year and get some production out of them. Says alot about this years Wizards bench :lol:

This statement is self-contradictory. If the bench was the worst in the league last year, how can you say he got production out of them. By definition, he got the worst production in the league out of them. This is hardly praiseworthy.

Incidentally, Maynor's on/off differential with Portland was -4.3. That is, he made the team 4.3 points worse per 100 possessions when he was on the floor. Maynor replaced Ronnie Price, who played backup PG for Portland over the first half of the season. Price's on/off differential was -1.5. So I guess you are saying that "getting production out of them" means that he made the worst bench in the league that much worse once he took over as backup PG.

You need to quit. Your continued defense of Maynor is embarrassing. He is a really, really bad player. It's unfathomable to me that EG felt such a strong compulsion to sign him to a 2-year deal on the first day of free agency. Pretty much ANY available vet minimum PG would have been better.


He joined the worst bench. Which means they were ranked 30 before he got there.
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Re: Eric Maynor...Giving Our Opponents The Power Play. 

Post#263 » by nate33 » Mon Dec 2, 2013 4:15 pm

wizardry wrote:He joined the worst bench. Which means they were ranked 30 before he got there.

Yes, and Maynor proceeded to make them even worse once he got there.
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Post#264 » by montestewart » Mon Dec 2, 2013 4:22 pm

nate33 wrote:
wizardry wrote:He joined the worst bench. Which means they were ranked 30 before he got there.

Yes, and Maynor proceeded to make them even worse once he got there.

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Post#265 » by wizardry » Mon Dec 2, 2013 5:30 pm

nate33 wrote:
wizardry wrote:He joined the worst bench. Which means they were ranked 30 before he got there.

Yes, and Maynor proceeded to make them even worse once he got there.


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Post#266 » by Zonkerbl » Mon Dec 2, 2013 5:33 pm

What makes me want to put the boot to the tv is the fact that Vesely is one of our best bench players.

Chew on that for a second.
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Post#267 » by TGW » Mon Dec 2, 2013 5:50 pm

Need more proof Maynor sucks? Well here ya go:

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It's downright scary just how much this team sucks when Wall sits and Maynor checks in.
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Post#268 » by nate33 » Mon Dec 2, 2013 5:55 pm

TGW wrote:Need more proof Maynor sucks? Well here ya go:

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It's downright scary just how much this team sucks when Wall sits and Maynor checks in.

:o
-32.2?

Looking at his player profile page, I see that he is -32.5 net per 100 possessions. Some don't like the net rating because it looks at what the team is without him, they just look at the "on" rating and ignore the "off" part. Well, looking at it that way, the Wizards are being outscored by 28.9 points per 100 possessions when Maynor is on the court. It's an astounding statistic.

Though to be fair, you can't blame just Maynor. Our bench is beyond horrible.
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Re: Eric Maynor...Giving Our Opponents The Power Play. 

Post#269 » by Zonkerbl » Mon Dec 2, 2013 5:57 pm

I have a new nickname for Maynor.

Q: "Who do the Wizards have at backup point guard?"

A: "BUPKUS."

Wizards fans, welcome your new backup PG: Eric "BUPKUS" Maynor!
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Post#270 » by Kanyewest » Mon Dec 2, 2013 6:47 pm

nate33 wrote:
TGW wrote:Need more proof Maynor sucks? Well here ya go:

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It's downright scary just how much this team sucks when Wall sits and Maynor checks in.

:o
-32.2?

Looking at his player profile page, I see that he is -32.5 net per 100 possessions. Some don't like the net rating because it looks at what the team is without him, they just look at the "on" rating and ignore the "off" part. Well, looking at it that way, the Wizards are being outscored by 28.9 points per 100 possessions when Maynor is on the court. It's an astounding statistic.

Though to be fair, you can't blame just Maynor. Our bench is beyond horrible.


The bench has not only been pretty bad but Maynor usually doesn't get to play with John Wall and I wonder how much that inflates other bench player's numbers such as Temple, Harrington, and Seraphin in comparison to Maynor in this rating. Maynor has also seemed to struggle more playing with Vesely than he has with Al Harrington.

On the plus side, Maynor is shooting 40% from 3 but Maynor cannot be a pass first point guard with this group of players (Temple, Vesely, Seraphin) and needs to show some ability to create his own shot. EG clearly miscalculated the market on what point guards were worth given that guys Nate Robinson signed for less money than anticipated. And at this point the correct decision may have been to keep AJ Price.

Still, it is early. Maynor is adjusting to Wittman who prior to Washington had struggled to coach up point guards in Minnesota. Perhaps there is a transitional period to adjust. Maybe when guys start to return, their bench can play better. Beal's return should move either Ariza or Webster back to the bench. Porter would give the Wizards another guy to use. Maybe Rice can show something in practice that would allow him to play more minutes. Singleton did shoot 50% in his one game back but remains to be seen if he can keep that up over a sustained period of time.
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Post#271 » by noworriesinmd » Mon Dec 2, 2013 8:48 pm

Hands, the big difference between Maynor and Ves..Ves tries hard. Maynor does not try hard. I can cheer for a guy who goes 1000% every possession....I can't do the same with someone who looks lost. Ves was mocked because he got a lot of fouls vs points. That meant he was trying. Maynor being slow and lazy is much different than Ves. I'm going to look at Maynor hard tonight and I doubt my opinion will change. Ves on the other hand works. He might not be the best...but he works.
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Post#272 » by tontoz » Mon Dec 2, 2013 10:04 pm

Kanyewest wrote:[Maynor cannot be a pass first point guard with this group of players (Temple, Vesely, Seraphin) and needs to show some ability to create his own shot.



Which is a big reason why so many of us were critical of the signing when it happened. Being a pass first player isn't much help playing with a bunch of guys who can't score.
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Post#273 » by hands11 » Mon Dec 2, 2013 11:38 pm

J-Ves wrote:Maynor on this team is made especially frustrating when you consider Mack, Crawford, and Price would all be better options at back up point guard. And the fact all three of those guys are cheaper then Maynor. And the fact the 2 million player option for next year could conceivably affect the Wizards options in free agency.

Just layers upon layers of suck by EG. Really outdid himself this year.


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Mack and Price are not better options. Both play more like short SGs than PGs. They can't run an offense well. Of the two, I would probably take Price. That said, we got to see a full year of him both what he could do well and what he couldn't and moved on. Which I would agree with.

Crawford was and is head and shoulders more talented then either of those two. And a bit more strange which is the only reason they moved on from him. All that said, if you were to pick one from the group of three, you should have picked Crawford.
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Post#274 » by kirubel94 » Mon Dec 2, 2013 11:43 pm

Name to consider if Maynor continues his suck--- Pierre Jackson. His game resembles Lil Nate Robinson. 5'10 but scorer first and similar athletic ability. Led the Big-12 in scoring. Never signed a contract with NOLA after spending time with them in the summer. Three games in D-leage and he is averaging 27ppg, 4.7 Ast, and 3.7 Rebounds.
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Post#275 » by hands11 » Mon Dec 2, 2013 11:45 pm

Kanyewest wrote:
nate33 wrote:
TGW wrote:Need more proof Maynor sucks? Well here ya go:

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It's downright scary just how much this team sucks when Wall sits and Maynor checks in.

:o
-32.2?

Looking at his player profile page, I see that he is -32.5 net per 100 possessions. Some don't like the net rating because it looks at what the team is without him, they just look at the "on" rating and ignore the "off" part. Well, looking at it that way, the Wizards are being outscored by 28.9 points per 100 possessions when Maynor is on the court. It's an astounding statistic.

Though to be fair, you can't blame just Maynor. Our bench is beyond horrible.


The bench has not only been pretty bad but Maynor usually doesn't get to play with John Wall and I wonder how much that inflates other bench player's numbers such as Temple, Harrington, and Seraphin in comparison to Maynor in this rating. Maynor has also seemed to struggle more playing with Vesely than he has with Al Harrington.

On the plus side, Maynor is shooting 40% from 3 but Maynor cannot be a pass first point guard with this group of players (Temple, Vesely, Seraphin) and needs to show some ability to create his own shot. EG clearly miscalculated the market on what point guards were worth given that guys Nate Robinson signed for less money than anticipated. And at this point the correct decision may have been to keep AJ Price.

Still, it is early. Maynor is adjusting to Wittman who prior to Washington had struggled to coach up point guards in Minnesota. Perhaps there is a transitional period to adjust. Maybe when guys start to return, their bench can play better. Beal's return should move either Ariza or Webster back to the bench. Porter would give the Wizards another guy to use. Maybe Rice can show something in practice that would allow him to play more minutes. Singleton did shoot 50% in his one game back but remains to be seen if he can keep that up over a sustained period of time.


Exactly. Maynor needs to be out there with scorers. That means you use him to rest Wall and let him get burn with the starters. After that, he was expected to be out there with at least two of Webster and Otto but even better would be Webster, Otto and Nene.

He may well be the worst player ever to play NBA ball as some here think, but until I see him out there with better players, I will hold final judgement.
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Post#276 » by TGW » Mon Dec 2, 2013 11:49 pm

Crawford got traded because he was a selfish prick and his teammates and coach couldn't stand him. He would not be a better option because he wouldn't be playing, period.

And Price and Mack are definitely better options just based off of salary vs. production. Maynor makes about 15 times what he's worth.
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Re: Eric Maynor...Giving Our Opponents The Power Play. 

Post#277 » by JWizmentality » Tue Dec 3, 2013 1:10 am

I thought it was the PG's job to make the players around him better, no? Maynor is an awful basketball player and I wouldn't put our starters through the travesty of having him get them the ball. Lipstick on a pig.

Putting Maynor out there with Nene, Ariza, Webster and Gortat isn't going to eliminate his boneheaded turnovers, getting picked by people like Luis Scola, his inability to drive the lane, or his signature running jumper off the shot clock.
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Re: Eric Maynor...Giving Our Opponents The Power Play. 

Post#278 » by daSwami » Tue Dec 3, 2013 2:15 am

Here's an incomplete list of a few FA PGs. just sayin.

Rodrigue Beaubois
Keyon Dooling
Chris Duhon
Marko Jaric
Jeremy Pargo
Jamaal Tinsley
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Post#279 » by TGW » Tue Dec 3, 2013 2:24 am

daSwami wrote:Here's an incomplete list of a few FA PGs. just sayin.

Rodrigue Beaubois
Keyon Dooling
Chris Duhon
Marko Jaric
Jeremy Pargo
Jamaal Tinsley


We should get Beaubois in here pronto.
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Post#280 » by GhostsOfGil » Fri Dec 6, 2013 8:58 pm

Eric Maynor is now leading the NBA in the worst +/- per 48 minutes at -27.7

OUCH!

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