Official Thread -- Wizards at Nets (12/18/13)

[tontoz]

I agree that Book starting is a good idea. I also think Harrington being out is a big help. If he didn't get hurt you know Whit would be playing him 20+ minutes and Booker would be on the bench. Al can get hot from 3 at times fooling people into thinking he is good. He sucks.

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Going to be a fun game. Sully is good. So is Green. Bradely. Kelly O

Going to be an interesting match up.

Washington should beat Bosto handily, that Celtics front court is completely overmatched going up against this group with a somewhat rested Nene.

A loss would be a major disappointment.

Don't over look Boston. That's all I'm saying.

Agreed. I don't think a win on the road in Boston is likely to be available "handily."

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Porter is still a complete disappointment. It's way too early to panic, but there is some cause for concern.

I'm not even starting to worry. Talk to me after 10 more games.

Team is still just figuring out what is what when they have their core pieces. Otto isn't really a concern yet.

Waaaaayyyy to early to panic about Porter. Kid missed all of training camp and the first month plus of the season which is especially tough for a rookie. And it's going to take far more than 10 more games to know for sure what the Zards have in Otto.

What he said....

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I honestly thought we didn't play our best game outside of 3 pt shooting. Which is why it is even more astounding that we won. The nets did play some good defense at times so it was good we overcame that AND these questionable ass refs. I'm all for Nene coming off the bench. He stabilizes so many things and he can still finish games. I hope he is receptive to such a notion. Seraphin actually looked decent out there when he got to play with him.

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They shot over 50%. Yes, we shot the 3 well -- but so did they.

Our rebounding won the game: wel got 51 boards to their 31. Above all, we dominated the offensive glass.

As a result, we got to take 14 more shots than the Nets (managing only 2 more points from that advantage) and 6 more FTAs (where the other 5 points of our margin came from).

[Hypnotizer]

Ok. Wall was good, Beal was good, Ariza was good, Booker was good, Gortat was good, Webster was good, Nene was good, but the special thanks go to... Luv-a-Bulls.

[Rafael122]

12 days left in the month, only 4 games to play. Beating Boston is crucial since we won't play another game until next Friday. Hate for them to lose and have to stew on it for a week.

[dobrojim]

I just looked at KG's stats this season, he is atrocious. Stick a fork in him. Pierce is fairly middling as well. The nets are in an even worse long term situation then us. Their expensive role players will break down. They better hope they opt for retirement.

You're very generous to Pierce. Both Pierce and Garnett have been awful this season. And Jason Terry has been even worse yet. Quite the trade they pulled off.

Good thing I'm not superstitious and that we hung on FTW or I would have had to pin a L on you.

[dobrojim]

Huge Webster fan, but the only thing Webster has on Beal is experience.

Beal is going to be way better.

No. Webster is a whole lot bigger which was really the basis for my thinking
he should start. I basically forgot that we would have TA on JJ anyway and
it didn't matter unless we were afraid of Alan freakin Anderson.

You're probably right to expect Beal will be better in the future.
But last night's game was well...it was last night. Right now, Webster
is actually a better player than Beal. How much longer that continues
to be the case is an open question. That was the second basis for my
suggestion to start Webster. We won anyway. Randy knows more than I do.

[Ruzious]

I think a big key to the Wiz doing well was they got to the foul line - something they normally don't do. If they can continue to make 3's AND get to the foul line at a good rate, that's a recipe for success.

[dobrojim]

Were the nets fans chanting "overrated" for Wall?

I was wondering what they were chanting. Couldn't tell.
If it was "overrated" at Wall, LOL.

Wall was the best player on the court again last night.
He should be as well vs Boston and we should win that one
unless the refs are even worse to us.

[mohammed10]

Were the nets fans chanting "overrated" for Wall?

I was wondering what they were chanting. Couldn't tell.
If it was "overrated" at Wall, LOL.

Wall was the best player on the court again last night.
He should be as well vs Boston and we should win that one
unless the refs are even worse to us.

3 in a row??? All on the road???

Are we ready for such success?

[dobrojim]

So should we start Book at the 4 now? We did much better on the glass tonight and Nene makes our bench not look like complete ass

That was Nate's idea. I think we saw last night it definitely has some merit.
The question I would have is whether Booker can keep it up. He's been pretty
solid lately.

[dobrojim]

Dang, we outrebounded the Nets by 20? Didn't realize that we did that well on the boards. From stats alone, looks like we won because we rebounded, hit 3 pointers, and got to the line.

Booker had like 9 off boards, many of which were his own misses since
he shot badly. You're forgiven when you get your own miss back, especially
if the possession ends in a made bucket.

[dobrojim]

Wall has 19 turnovers in the last 3 games. He needs to clean that up. He jumps to pass too often. Like seeing his commitment to shooting 3s though.

Gortat is 11-35 in the last 3 games.

He does jump to pass too often. Earlier in the season we were commending
him for getting Web/TA/BB those corner 3 balls. But there are no secrets in
the NBA. He needs to be judicious about what is a fundamentally bad play
ie jumping to pass. The league knows about this and is working to adapt.

[dobrojim]

Porter is still a complete disappointment. It's way too early to panic, but there is some cause for concern.

we were saying the same thing about Beal this time last year. And Beal didn't
miss anywhere near the time OP has. Let's wait until Feb or so before we get
too concerned. Right now we have the luxury of 2 quality SF and don't have to
put any pressure on OP.

[dobrojim]

Just came back from the game; great seats, courtesy of a college buddy:

so what were the fans chanting?

[tontoz]

I like the way the guys commit to shooting the 3 while basically ignoring the defense. A lot of their made 3s are on quick, contested attempts.

On that 3 late in the game Beal clearly had his mind set to shoot the 3 before he touched the ball, basically ignoring the defense. Webster does this all the time. Unless someone is clearly in position to block it he just lets it fly. If they block it then they block it but he won't let the defender distract him.

[Rafael122]

Porter is still a complete disappointment. It's way too early to panic, but there is some cause for concern.

we were saying the same thing about Beal this time last year. And Beal didn't
miss anywhere near the time OP has. Let's wait until Feb or so before we get
too concerned. Right now we have the luxury of 2 quality SF and don't have to
put any pressure on OP.

What concern though? He barely had a Summer League, NO preseason or practices for almost 4 months. It's his what...4th game? Holy overreaction, Batman.

[Higga]

Good win, always tough on the road against a terrible team.

Can't buy a ring Prokorov. Loved Wall stuffing coach killer Deron Williams to seal the win.

[dobrojim]

Porter is still a complete disappointment. It's way too early to panic, but there is some cause for concern.

we were saying the same thing about Beal this time last year. And Beal didn't
miss anywhere near the time OP has. Let's wait until Feb or so before we get
too concerned. Right now we have the luxury of 2 quality SF and don't have to
put any pressure on OP.

What concern though? He barely had a Summer League, NO preseason or practices for almost 4 months. It's his what...4th game? Holy overreaction, Batman.

I agree. It's not me who is concerned. At least not yet. OP may struggle all year
and still eventually prove to be decent or maybe even better although if
he struggles all year, the odds of him eventually becoming good are clearly less.